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  1. I just put my first giraffe together today, got down the block and back,
    and now my sprocket moves but the wheel dosnt. The chain has good
    tenshion, but when i put weight on the pedal it somtimes moves the chain
    sprocket (top and bottom) but the wheel does not move, what has gotten
    loose and how do I fix it?😕

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  2. Tighten up the axel bolts. It's very disconcerting when that happens.
    It caused me to fall a couple of times. I just got a new savage last
    week. (You can see the new pics 'here'
    (http://www.munipsycho.com/gallery.jsp).)

    At first I thought I shouldn't tighten the bolts very tight because it
    kept the wheel from spinning as freely as I thought it should. But
    after it loosened up and I fell twice, I cranked it down tight.

    Good luck!

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  3. excellent photos

    looks like your doing well

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  4. Do you have pics?

    Sounds like you may have a hub with a threaded sprocket and the sprocket
    is spinning. In proper assembly the sprocket is spun on tight and then a
    lockring is spun up against it to prevent it from spinning. Do you have
    both pieces?

    You may have to dis-assemble, clean, apply loc-tite, and reassemble to
    get it right.

    It is very dangerous to ride with a loose sprocket.

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  5. Is this problem comon? Im getting a giraffe probally tomorrow, what are
    the chances of it having the same problem?

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  6. Beware the loose sprocket! A sprocket that unscrews without warning can
    cause serious injury. If your sprocket is threaded on, and held in place
    with a threaded lock ring, I high recommend you do as UniBrier
    suggested. Take it apart, clean all grease off the threads, and
    reassemble *as tight as you can* with red (permanent) Loctite. If you
    don't have the proper tool to tighten the lock-ring, either buy one or
    hire a bike mechanic to do it. *Watch them do it.* Bike mechanics do not
    understand the stresses unicycles get, and a lesser one may not realize
    you need it to be tight FOR REAL.

    If it is a threaded-on sprocket, do not ride the cycle until you've
    taken care of this.

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  7. Now im going to be all scared when I put -mine- together.🙁

    😉

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    I still think this empty space looks funny...

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  8. forrestunifreak said:

    *Now im going to be all scared when I put -mine- together.🙁
    😉 *

    You'll be more scared when you let go of the gutter.

    But you'll be fine. Just choose to ride!

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  9. is this the sprocket?

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  10. That looks like the lock ring.

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  11. The picture you attached is the lock ring. The sprocket is the round
    bit with the teeth for the chain. The sprocket threads onto the hub and
    then the lock ring threads on. The lock ring holds the sprocket from
    slipping and coming unthreaded. As long as both the sprocket and lock
    ring don't slip then the sprocket stays tight.

    The lock ring requires a special wrench to tighten. A bike shop will
    have the necessary tool to tighten the lock ring.

    It is very very important that the sprocket and lock ring be properly
    tightened. If the sprocket slips you will fall off the giraffe. The
    fall can be very fast and without control. Very dangerous.

    Take it to a bike shop and have them put the sprocket and lock ring on
    using permanent high strength Loctite threadlocker. The threads should
    first be cleaned with Loctite primer to make sure you get the strongest
    possible bond. Be sure to impress upon the bike mechanic that it is
    very very dangerous for you if the sprocket slips and that the high
    strength Loctite really really is necessary. Print this bit out and
    make sure the bike mechanic understands.

    There is a basic assembly manual at the Torker USA web site: 'Torker USA
    assembly manual' (http://www.torkerusa.com/unicyclemanual.pdf) (PDF
    file)
    At the bottom of the second page are the basic instructions for
    assembling a giraffe. But they don't say anything about how to tighten
    the sprocket and lock ring.

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  12. I've been thrown off my giraffe (Torker TX) several times when the
    pedals move without me going anywhere, is this the most likely cause? I
    had it down as wheelspin, but this does seem unlikely on a good tyre on
    pavement. Does riding backwards alot aggrevate the problem? I assume
    that could cause the lock ring to loosen.

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  13. Pedalling backwards will cause the sprocket to unscrew. You very likely
    have a loose sprocket and a loose lock ring. Take it to a bike shop and
    have them tighten the sprocket according to the instructions above.
    Have them do the Loctite too. The Loctite helps a lot.

    Bike shops can be very bad at properly tightening giraffe sprockets.
    They don't understand that giraffes aren't quite exactly like track
    bikes. Track bikes don't need Loctite, giraffes do.

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  14. Quoted message said:

    It is very very important that the sprocket and lock ring be properly
    tightened. If the sprocket slips you will fall off the giraffe. The
    fall can be very fast and without control. Very dangerous.

    Thanks JC.

    That's an excellent description of my two rapid descents to the pavement
    and very clearly explains the bruises on my hip. They didn't feel so
    much like falling -- which I'm used to -- as like being dropped.

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  15. my bro-inlaw noticed the lock ring loose before i got back to check the
    site. I got a hammer, screwdriver, and locktite and used the hammer and
    screwdriver to push it back on and it worked perfectly, oh it feels
    better not having your face in the pavement.

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  16. This is one of the big differences between the Nimbus Giraffe and most
    others on the market, it uses a 5 bolt system to hold the sprocket on so
    that this situation just can not happen.

    Roger

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  17. ICP8456 said:

    *my bro-inlaw noticed the lock ring loose before i got back to check
    the site. I got a hammer, screwdriver, and locktite and used the
    hammer and screwdriver to push it back on and it worked perfectly, oh
    it feels better not having your face in the pavement. *

    The hammer and screwdriver is one way to tighten a lockring but it's not
    the best. You'll damage the lockring and you won't be able to get it as
    tight as when using a proper tool.

    To tighten a lockring you use a lockring hook spanner similar to 'this'
    (http://www.parktool.com/tools/HCW_5.shtml). You'll be able to tighten
    the lockring without damaging it and you'll be able to get it tighter.
    Your local bike shop will be able to show you the proper size and style
    of lockring spanner to get.

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  18. rogeratunicycledotcom said:

    *This is one of the big differences between the Nimbus Giraffe and
    most others on the market, it uses a 5 bolt system to hold the
    sprocket on so that this situation just can not happen.

    Roger *

    Which is the way all giraffes should be made now. The threaded on
    lockring style is just not safe.

    Does UDC sell the 5 bolt giraffe hub by itself? Is it using the
    standard spacing for a disk brake rotor for the bolts?

    I need to get my Schwinn giraffe made safe. Right now it has a threaded
    on sprocket that is Loctited. I want to either get it welded on so it
    never slips or replace it with a bolted on sprocket.

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  19. john_childs said:

    *Which is the way all giraffes should be made now...

    I need to get my Schwinn giraffe made safe.*


    JC probably already knows this, but Schwinn switched to a bolted-on
    sprocket around 1979 or so. Apparently they figured out the danger in a
    track-style hub that quickly. The 5-bolt system is probably stronger, as
    I sheared off one or two of my 3 bolts over the years.

    Yes, any intelligently designed giraffe hub will not have a screw-on
    sprocket. Only the "cheap" ones...

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