coverage of the london marathon

dwjones45 said:

i realize that there will be no television coverage here in the united
states of the london marathon. the marathon is shaping up to be quite an
interesting race particularly on the men's side. therefore i am wondering
if there is going to be an internet feed of the marathon?

Yes, there is. Initial indicators were that it'd only be available within
the UK but then they (BBC, I think) said the US/North American audience
would be able to access it too.

The field was even more interesting before Tergat dropped out with an
injury... but still, it's a fairly awesome array of the world's best.

Charlie Pendejo said:

dwjones45 said:

i realize that there will be no television coverage here in the united
states of the london marathon. the marathon is shaping up to be quite an
interesting race particularly on the men's side. therefore i am wondering
if there is going to be an internet feed of the marathon?

Yes, there is. Initial indicators were that it'd only be available within
the UK but then they (BBC, I think) said the US/North American audience
would be able to access it too.

That's what it said too on letsrun.com, i.e., bbc.com should have it online.
Hope so. Here's a link from BBC's website:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/athletics/4900076.stm

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dwjones45 said:

i realize that there will be no television coverage here in the united
states of the london marathon. the marathon is shaping up to be quite an
interesting race particularly on the men's side. therefore i am

wondering

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if there is going to be an internet feed of the marathon?

Yes, there is. Initial indicators were that it'd only be available within
the UK but then they (BBC, I think) said the US/North American audience
would be able to access it too.

The field was even more interesting before Tergat dropped out with an
injury... but still, it's a fairly awesome array of the world's best.

Starts a bit early... 4:30 am NY time with DST, right? Worth taping. Getting
ready to tape the Giro next month from either RAI TV (via a feed from
http://wwitv.com [some interesting channels in there]) or the paid
($20/month) OLN online feed (via http://cycling.tv), and haven't quite
figured out whether I'll use the s-video output to tape on a VCR, or just
use a capture program to record it to the PC hard drive. The quality from
cycling.tv varies, but when output to the TV, it usually looks almost as
good as the normal OLN broadcast. Anyone have a favorite capture program for
recording TV off the net? I was just googling around and saw a few, but
would appreciate hearing what's worked for others.

-Tony

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Yes, there is. Initial indicators were that it'd only be available within
the UK but then they (BBC, I think) said the US/North American audience
would be able to access it too.

viewing from canada right now (early morning here). the quality stinks
but for free and as the only chance to see it, it'll do. 38Kbps is not
enough. when i watch cycling.tv from the uk, it's fabulous.

watching the bbc coverage. mens or womens is available
but bbc is covering it all.

incidently, it's raining there.
....thehick

thehick said:

viewing from canada right now (early morning here). the quality stinks
but for free and as the only chance to see it, it'll do. 38Kbps is not
enough. when i watch cycling.tv from the uk, it's fabulous.

Yeah, I caught the last mile of the men's race and video quality was pretty
bad. If not for the audio, I wouldn't have been able to tell much beyond
"blurry blob #1 edged out blurry blob #2 in what looked like a terrific
finish".

Big congrats to Deena for her sub-2:20 finish!!

Were you pulling for anyone in particular, Frank? I really like Deena. In
the men's race I guess I kinda like Ramaala and also was hoping to see
Khalid K run well again.

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incidently, it's raining there.

As it is here, about 47.5 hours of this weekend if real life continues to
match the forecast. It'll be rainy, breezy, and fairly cool as I warm up,
race my four miler in Central Park, then jog back home to Brooklyn so I can
claim double credit for VO2 work and a long run.

I'm not feeling terribly confident about achieving my goal - beating my 4
mile PR set last time out - because my legs are really feeling the miles and
the workouts of recent weeks. Not brink-of-injury, not sore per se, just a
bit stiff and fatigued. I'll give it my best shot though, and wouldn't be
too surprised by a surprise, good or bad. Just so it's not shoes coming
untied or a dodgy stomach...

So, they've changed the meaning of the word "interesting"?

I missed that memo.

I was happy just to watch it live. No interest in who wins. I like
to see the aid station activity (whoops, that's slippery), and I
follow the race on the course map. The sights interest me a lot.
That goofball priest that interrupted a race last year was
supposed to be there but I didn't see him. maybe that was when
the feed was suffering. also, the real player feed was twice the
bit-rate of the media player. still terrible.

not to complain to much. live feed, however poor, with
commentary is far better than pictures with text.
....thehick

Go Deena, Helluva year for the XC superstar....rocking Chicago now
London.

My autographed poster is perhaps apprecaiting in value 🙂 Asics
trumps Nike for a change in a big stakes race.

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Go Deena, Helluva year for the XC superstar....rocking Chicago now
London.

My autographed poster is perhaps apprecaiting in value 🙂 Asics
trumps Nike for a change in a big stakes race.

i watched the internet feed of Deena's run this morning in the london
marathon. it was a wonderful effort. however the fact that she had a couple
of men to help pace her did not sit well with me. am i alone in my opinion
or does anyone else find this wrong?

dwjones45 said:

however the fact that she had a couple
of men to help pace her did not sit well with me. am i alone in my opinion
or does anyone else find this wrong?

It's OK as long as they have two separate official records and rankings -
one for mixed races and one women-only ones.

There'd be nothing wrong with her having female pacers though.

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however the fact that she had a couple of men to help pace her did not sit well with me

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could you be more specific as i only have read reports that did not
mention anything like this. from what i've read, the race was over at
about the 30KM mark. i also note she ran both halves at 69:48.

"steve common" wrote

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dwjones45 said:

however the fact that she had a couple
of men to help pace her did not sit well with me.
am i alone in my opinion
or does anyone else find this wrong?

It's OK as long as they have two separate official records and
rankings - one for mixed races and one women-only ones.

There'd be nothing wrong with her having female pacers though.

According to the race schedule the elite women started 45 minutes before
the elite men. Where did these male pacers come from?

I doesn't seem quite right to me either.

Piedmont Donald

Two men were assigned as pacers for the elite women. beats
me why. funny part is one of them was deena's training
partner! he's the one that fell back towards the end.

hardly seems right and now that BIG money is on the line
with the World Marathon Major, I'd say that Susam
Chepkemei should see a good lawyer.
....thehick

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could you be more specific as i only have read reports that did not
mention anything like this. from what i've read, the race was over at
about the 30KM mark. i also note she ran both halves at 69:48.

The race provided pacers for both elite fields; in all cases I saw
they were men. Drossin had two pacers most of the way, one of them her
regular training partner, the other a Kenyan, IIRC. The Kenyan stayed
with her the whole way. The chase pack had pacers as well.

The BBC commenters said something to the effect that they couldn't
find women fast enough to pace the leaders who were also not
interested in competing themselves.

The men's field was at WR pace through about the half, then dropped
off pace as it became more tactical. After that happened I didn't see
pacers with the lead pack. (The pacers were all wearing white singlets
and blue shorts so it was easy to spot them; also the top elites all
wore different colors, and their names on their bibs, so the usual
spectacle of eight Africans identically clad didn't happen. Kudos to
race management for that.)
--
Brian P. Baresch
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
Professional editing and proofreading

If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

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According to the race schedule the elite women started 45 minutes before
the elite men. Where did these male pacers come from?

They were provided by race management. London has done that before.
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Brian P. Baresch
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
Professional editing and proofreading

If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

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From the Flore web-site:

The women's section of the Flora London Marathon generally
provides action from the gun and this year's version was no
exception. Three minutes after Lord Seb Coe had sent the runners
on their way a group of eight slotted in behind male pacemakers
Mike McKeeman (USA) and Henry Tarus (KEN) with
Margaret Okayo (KEN) showing at the front.

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however the fact that she had a couple of men to help pace her did
not sit well with me _

could you be more specific as i only have read reports that did not
mention anything like this. from what i've read, the race was over at
about the 30KM mark. i also note she ran both halves at 69:48.

i am only going by what the commentators were saying during the bbc's
broadcast of the race. they stated more than once that the 2 men running
along with her were there for the sole purpose of pacing her. now i not care
if this is a common practice in this particular marathon. it still does not
make it right in my opinion.

thehick said:

Two men were assigned as pacers for the elite women. beats
me why. funny part is one of them was deena's training
partner! he's the one that fell back towards the end.

hardly seems right and now that BIG money is on the line
with the World Marathon Major, I'd say that Susam
Chepkemei should see a good lawyer.

Not sure it would do much good but you had to feel sorry for her struggling
on her own with pacers ahead and behind her. Of course she could have opted
to drop back to the slower pacer's speed and then maybe would have had a bt
more left for the finish.

I can't help feeling though that as pace judgement is one of the fundamental
skills required for distance running, having pacemakers is tantamount to
cheating.

Tim

thehick said:

Two men were assigned as pacers for the elite women. beats
me why. funny part is one of them was deena's training
partner! he's the one that fell back towards the end.

hardly seems right and now that BIG money is on the line
with the World Marathon Major, I'd say that Susam
Chepkemei should see a good lawyer.

If pacers are required to stay on pace for the whole race, that's
news to me. This certainly doesn't happen with pacers in mens
races.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/