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  1. I have to plug these guys. This is an awesome bike shop.
    tinyurl.comywern

    I went in there tonight with $1000 burning a hole in my
    pocket. What did I get? Same thing I got when I bought my
    wife's bike there. It's always the same: zero pressure,
    expert advice, personalized service, a cool atmosphere, and
    a good bike for a good price. These guys specialize in
    selling $4000 bikes but I was treated like a high end
    customer even though I was buying a recreational machine.

    It was a choice between 2 or 3 bikes in my $ range and the
    expert salesperson steered me right to the one I really
    wanted and needed. He found me a size which fit me like a
    glove. The regular sticker price was $50 below MSRP which I
    liked for a 2004 model. They threw in a cage and waterbottle
    (actually they asked me if I wanted 2 of each but I didn't).
    Then they threw it up on the stand and had a mechanic do a
    final check and tune. Then he told me the price included a
    year of unlimited free tuneups. They personally help me load
    it in the car.

    Oh, and this is unusual, as I was just about to pay they
    said they were knocking $30 off just cuz. We pay 14.5% total
    sales tax up here so I ended up getting the bike for less
    than MSRP including tax which I was quite happy with (they
    have to make a buck too right?).

    Places like this are why we must support our local
    bike shops!

  2. "BillB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:klvac.53590$li5.19417@pd7tw3no...

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, and this is unusual, as I was just about to pay they
    said they were


    knocking

    Quoted message said:

    $30 off just cuz. We pay 14.5% total sales tax up here so
    I ended up getting


    the

    Quoted message said:

    bike for less than MSRP including tax which I was quite
    happy with (they have


    to

    Quoted message said:

    make a buck too right?).

    I just realized my math didn't add up. Checked my receipt,
    turns out we don't pay provincial sales tax on bicycles in
    BC. Coooool. So it was only 7% Federal Goods and Services
    Tax. Just in case anyone was wondering about my math error.

  3. lucky you. i have never had a good experience at my LBS. dont ever buy a
    bike from Gregs Green Lake Cycles in seattle washington. rude staff, no post
    sales service at all. unknowledgeable parts and service staff, stuffy rude
    shoe girl at front counter. i'll never buy a bicycle from a shop again
    because of them. its bike shops like that, that make people buy online
    "BillB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:klvac.53590$li5.19417@pd7tw3no...

    Quoted message said:

    I have to plug these guys. This is an awesome bike shop.
    tinyurl.comywern

    I went in there tonight with $1000 burning a hole in my
    pocket. What did I


    get?

    Quoted message said:

    Same thing I got when I bought my wife's bike there. It's
    always the same:


    zero

    Quoted message said:

    pressure, expert advice, personalized service, a cool
    atmosphere, and a


    good

    Quoted message said:

    bike for a good price. These guys specialize in selling
    $4000 bikes but I


    was

    Quoted message said:

    treated like a high end customer even though I was buying
    a recreational machine.

    It was a choice between 2 or 3 bikes in my $ range and
    the expert


    salesperson

    Quoted message said:

    steered me right to the one I really wanted and needed. He
    found me a size


    which

    Quoted message said:

    fit me like a glove. The regular sticker price was $50
    below MSRP which I


    liked

    Quoted message said:

    for a 2004 model. They threw in a cage and waterbottle
    (actually they


    asked me

    Quoted message said:

    if I wanted 2 of each but I didn't). Then they threw it up
    on the stand


    and had

    Quoted message said:

    a mechanic do a final check and tune. Then he told me the
    price included a


    year

    Quoted message said:

    of unlimited free tuneups. They personally help me load it
    in the car.

    Oh, and this is unusual, as I was just about to pay they
    said they were


    knocking

    Quoted message said:

    $30 off just cuz. We pay 14.5% total sales tax up here so
    I ended up


    getting the

    Quoted message said:

    bike for less than MSRP including tax which I was quite
    happy with (they


    have to

    Quoted message said:

    make a buck too right?).

    Places like this are why we must support our local
    bike shops!

  4. Good story Bill I have ordered from these guys through the
    mail and they were great too. Yeah no PST on the bikes
    because they are considered alternative transportation,
    green friendly I guess.

    Shops should be good to customers like you that is where
    they make a lot of their money, generally there are only a
    select few that will buy the big ticket item but a larger
    number, "the masses" if you will, buying the lower end
    models. I am sure it is a little different @ Cove seeing how
    there are a lot of riders demanding high end stuff but I am
    sure they also get their fair share of "the masses"

    "BillB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:hsvac.52678$QO2.24579@pd7tw1no...

    Quoted message said:


    "BillB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:klvac.53590$li5.19417@pd7tw3no...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Oh, and this is unusual, as I was just about to pay they
    said they were


    knocking

    Quoted message said:

    $30 off just cuz. We pay 14.5% total sales tax up here
    so I ended up


    getting

    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    bike for less than MSRP including tax which I was quite
    happy with (they


    have

    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:

    make a buck too right?).

    I just realized my math didn't add up. Checked my receipt,
    turns out we


    don't

    Quoted message said:

    pay provincial sales tax on bicycles in BC. Coooool. So it
    was only 7%


    Federal

    Quoted message said:

    Goods and Services Tax. Just in case anyone was wondering
    about my math


    error.

  5. BillB said:

    I have to plug these guys. This is an awesome bike shop.
    tinyurl.comywern

    I went in there tonight with $1000 burning a hole in my
    pocket. What did I get? Same thing I got when I bought my
    wife's bike there.


    (snip detail)

    Great --- so what did you buy? We all want to know so
    the Bike Nazi's can make fun of it. Seriously though it
    was a minor detail missing from the story. Tell us about
    your new ride!

    Tom

  6. "tcmedara" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:uYIac.30162$oH2.22497@lakeread01...

    Quoted message said:

    Great --- so what did you buy? We all want to know so the
    Bike Nazi's can make fun of it. Seriously though it was a
    minor detail missing from the story. Tell us about your
    new ride!

    I needed a bike for road, city, and light trail use. As much
    as I'd like to always be in the woods, truth is I need
    something sensible for some city riding. I decided a cross
    country hardtail would be best. Even if I wanted dual
    suspension, I don't think I would have been satisfied with a
    dual in my limited budget range.

    I got this: tinyurl.com2nk2z

    Here's my initial impressions:

    Overall this is a bike with a lot of compromises, yet at the
    same time highly upgradable and a decent recreational ride
    right out of the box. It appears to me the 7005 aluminum
    frame is well constructed and Kona is often praised for
    their frame geometry and balance. My wife got a Rocky
    Mountain Stratos which is a lot more refined than this bike,
    but I like the beefy masculine look of the Kona next to
    hers. Rocky Mountain is made in Canada (big plus for me) and
    Kona seems to be one of the leaders on the North Shore, so I
    wanted one of these two brands, just for my own subjective
    cool factor.

    The flat blue-grey paint and somewhat subdued graphics give
    this bike an almost "military issue" look. I was ambivilent
    about the look at first but it does grow on you.

    Fork: You don't normally get much of a fork in this
    pricerange. In this case it's a Marz made in tiawan special.
    I won't be taxing it too much so I'm sure it will be fine.
    It did seem quite "springy" compared to my wife's low end
    Marz air fork. We'll see....perhaps the fork will be the
    first major upgrade.

    Tires: They look cool but are not particularly well
    reviewed. Oh well, I'll work hard to wear them out.

    Rims. Mine came with Mavic rims. I like that. Always had
    good luck with Mavics.

    Brakes: Shimano mechanical discs. I have never used disc
    brakes before, but they should come in handy in this damp
    climate. I know some people say shimano mechanicals are
    junk, but when you read all the reviews you get the
    impression most people like them. I'm sure they'll be fine
    for me, although I have budgeted some fiddle time.

    Seat: Can't vouch for its comfort yet, but I do like the
    "rawhide stitched" look.

    Components: Mostly Deore level stuff, which in my
    experience is solid quality for recreational riding. Yeah
    they used that lame trick of putting on an XT rear
    derailleur, but hey, I'll take it. I know I don't get an XT
    bike for this price and a smooth rear derailleur is
    important. Avid levers seem cool too. I think the crankset
    and rings look a little cheap. Another part of this bike
    I'll work hard to wear out (I'll get a Race Face
    crankset..made in Canada... yeah!). Pedals are OK I guess,
    but basically junk. They'll be gone soon. Overall though, a
    decent quality setup. I'm happy with it.

    This bike isn't lite. I think they report it comes in at 28
    pound. You can tell just by looking at it it's a little
    beefier than most of its direct competitors. Kona has the
    similarly equipped and priced "Hoss" model which is even
    beefier but something like 3 pounds heavier. Even though I'm
    a really big guy I decided the Hoss would be overkill for my
    sane riding style. So I think this Kona Cinder Cone is a
    good compromise solution as far as durabilty, quality,
    weight and price are concerned.

    Can't tell you about the ride yet. So far I've just tooled
    around the neighborhood on a test ride. I'll report back
    when I have something to go on. I can say that it appears
    Cove set it up perfect. Thanks again guys.

  7. "BillB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%XJac.1663$oR5.66@pd7tw3no...

    Quoted message said:

    I got this: tinyurl.com2nk2z

    Opps they redirect your link back to their home page. I
    hate that.

    2004 Cinder Cone. Click the "2004 Bikes" on the left side of
    their home page, then look under "MTB XC Hardtail".

  8. BillB said:


    (snip beginning)

    Quoted message said:

    Tires: They look cool but are not particularly well
    reviewed. Oh well, I'll work hard to wear them out.

    Rims. Mine came with Mavic rims. I like that. Always had
    good luck with Mavics.

    Brakes: Shimano mechanical discs. I have never used disc
    brakes before, but they should come in handy in this damp
    climate. I know some people say shimano mechanicals are
    junk, but when you read all the reviews you get the
    impression most people like them. I'm sure they'll be fine
    for me, although I have budgeted some fiddle time.

    Seat: Can't vouch for its comfort yet, but I do like the
    "rawhide stitched" look.

    Components: Mostly Deore level stuff, which in my
    experience is solid quality for recreational riding. Yeah
    they used that lame trick of putting on an XT rear
    derailleur, but hey, I'll take it. I know I don't get an
    XT bike for this price and a smooth rear derailleur is
    important. Avid levers seem cool too. I think the crankset
    and rings look a little cheap. Another part of this bike
    I'll work hard to wear out (I'll get a Race Face
    crankset..made in Canada... yeah!). Pedals are OK I guess,
    but basically junk. They'll be gone soon. Overall though,
    a decent quality setup. I'm happy with it.

    (snip various bits in the middle)

    Quoted message said:

    This bike isn't lite. I think they report it comes in at
    28 pound. You can tell just by looking at it it's a little
    beefier than most of its direct competitors. Kona has the
    similarly equipped and priced "Hoss" model which is even
    beefier but something like 3 pounds heavier. Even though
    I'm a really big guy I decided the Hoss would be overkill
    for my sane riding style. So I think this Kona Cinder Cone
    is a good compromise solution as far as durabilty,
    quality, weight and price are concerned.


    (snip end)

    The hell with your bugdet. Sounds like you need two bikes!
    Seriously though, it looks like you found a ride that meets
    your needs within your price range. Hope it serves you well.
    Looks like the LBS hooked you with some wheel upgrades
    (assuming the Mavics are decent and they didn't give you
    some no-name hubs). Deore stuff is pretty bombproof and
    performs well from what I've seen. You can always upgrade as
    stuff breaks. Same deal with the cranks and tires, unless
    they don't do what you want, my advice is to keep 'em until
    they don't perform then upgrade.

    I'm curious about the mix of Shimano mechs and the Avid
    levers as OEM equipment. I thought there'd be some sort of
    spontaneous failure if you tried to mix those in one braking
    system. Wonder why Kona decided to mix and match.
    Interesting.

    I wouldn't sweat the weight either. If you're like me, a few
    pounds on the bike is nothing compared to the few extra I
    could get rid of off of myself. For the type of riding you
    describe it probably won't make much difference at all. Let
    us know how it rides. Congrats, it's always like Christmas
    when you get a new bike, isn't it?

    Tom

  9. In article <klvac.53590$li5.19417@pd7tw3no>, "BillB" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, and this is unusual, as I was just about to pay they
    said they were knocking $30 off just cuz. We pay 14.5%
    total sales tax up here so I ended up getting the bike for
    less than MSRP including tax which I was quite happy with
    (they have

    Aren't bikes and parts bought with a bike exempt from
    the 7.5% B.C.
    P.S.T. or has that exemption gone?

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,
    "MD" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [Post de-TOFU'd]

    Quoted message said:


    "BillB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:hsvac.52678$QO2.24579@pd7tw1no...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Oh, and this is unusual, as I was just about to pay
    they said they were


    knocking

    Quoted message said:

    $30 off just cuz. We pay 14.5% total sales tax up here
    so I ended up


    getting

    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    bike for less than MSRP including tax which I was
    quite happy with (they

    Quoted message said:

    Shops should be good to customers like you that is where
    they make a lot of their money, generally there are only a
    select few that will buy the big ticket item but a larger
    number, "the masses" if you will, buying the lower end
    models. I am sure it is a little different @ Cove seeing
    how there are a lot of riders demanding high end stuff but
    I am sure they also get their fair share of "the masses"

    Maybe It's a sad statement on either my expectations or the
    general run of LBSes, but I'm quite pleased to hear that
    BillB got really good service at Cove. I have not been
    there, but it has a reputation as one of the great North
    Shore shops (Cove Bikes are associated with the shop as
    well, I believe; they're a fairly famous niche shore-y MTB
    brand) and one of the great mountain-bike shops in the
    world. That they also provide good service at the low end is
    a telling fact.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden]
    sfu.cawiredcola President, Fabrizio
    Mazzoleni Fan Club

  11. On 2004-03-31, Brian penned:

    Quoted message said:

    lucky you. i have never had a good experience at my LBS.
    dont ever buy a bike from Gregs Green Lake Cycles in
    seattle washington. rude staff, no post sales service at
    all. unknowledgeable parts and service staff, stuffy rude
    shoe girl at front counter. i'll never buy a bicycle from
    a shop again because of them. its bike shops like that,
    that make people buy online.

    What's a shoe girl?

    --
    monique

  12. On 2004-04-06, Penny S penned:

    Quoted message said:

    Congrats, newlywed!!!

    Thank you =)

    Quoted message said:

    I'm guessing it's not the same thing as a shoe [censored], not
    that I would know.
    <g>

    I have this image that "shoe girl" might be like a young
    Imelda Marcos ...?

    --
    monique

  13. Monique Y. Mudama said:

    On 2004-03-31, Brian penned:

    Quoted message said:

    lucky you. i have never had a good experience at my LBS.
    dont ever buy a bike from Gregs Green Lake Cycles in
    seattle washington. rude staff, no post sales service at
    all. unknowledgeable parts and service staff, stuffy rude
    shoe girl at front counter. i'll never buy a bicycle from
    a shop again because of them. its bike shops like that,
    that make people buy online.

    What's a shoe girl?

    Shoe Goo's mistress?

    Bill "thought they only worked in bowling alleys" S.

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