Could This Device Really Work As Claimed ???

"Mark Thorson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Supposedly, this device makes frying oils last much
longer:

http://www.oilfresh.com/

A couple things which raise my suspicions are that it
invokes the "nanotechnology" buzzword, and it claims
that it "de-clusters lumpy formations of oil molecules".

Is it plausible that the main claimed effect -- preventing
oil oxidation -- can be accomplished by the claimed
mechanism of introducing a small amount of silver
ions into the oil?

Say, you wouldn't need a bridge by any chance, would you? That's the purest
BS I have seen in a long time.

--
Peter Aitken

Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

Mark Thorson said:

Supposedly, this device makes frying oils last much
longer:

http://www.oilfresh.com/

A couple things which raise my suspicions are that it
invokes the "nanotechnology" buzzword, and it claims
that it "de-clusters lumpy formations of oil molecules".

Is it plausible that the main claimed effect -- preventing
oil oxidation -- can be accomplished by the claimed
mechanism of introducing a small amount of silver
ions into the oil?

It could ... but probably doesn't ...
It puts two facts together to make a doubtful conclusion ...
Like you mention the buzz words ... and a childish description ... give
me problems also ...

When the literature states no chemicals are involved, you
have to wonder.

--

Henry Boyter, Jr.
PhD Chemist

http://www.itt.edu/staff/boyter/links/index.html
The opinions expressed are those of Dr. Boyter and
are provided for informational purposes only and
should not be used as advice. No warranty or
expression of professionalism is implied.

"Mark Thorson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Supposedly, this device makes frying oils last much
longer:

http://www.oilfresh.com/

A couple things which raise my suspicions are that it
invokes the "nanotechnology" buzzword, and it claims
that it "de-clusters lumpy formations of oil molecules".

Is it plausible that the main claimed effect -- preventing
oil oxidation -- can be accomplished by the claimed
mechanism of introducing a small amount of silver
ions into the oil?

Mark Thorson said:

Supposedly, this device makes frying oils last much
longer:

http://www.oilfresh.com/

A couple things which raise my suspicions are that it
invokes the "nanotechnology" buzzword, and it claims
that it "de-clusters lumpy formations of oil molecules".

Is it plausible that the main claimed effect -- preventing
oil oxidation -- can be accomplished by the claimed
mechanism of introducing a small amount of silver
ions into the oil?

"It is not an additive, not a chemical, not a stabilizer or a
filteration system"

If it does anything it certainly doesn't do it as described. The
summed claims are ridiculous and unsupportable.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

Far as I can tell said:

Is it plausible that the main claimed effect -- preventing
oil oxidation -- can be accomplished by the claimed
mechanism of introducing a small amount of silver
ions into the oil?

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Mark Thorson said:

Supposedly, this device makes frying oils last much
longer:

http://www.oilfresh.com/

A couple things which raise my suspicions are that it
invokes the "nanotechnology" buzzword, and it claims
that it "de-clusters lumpy formations of oil molecules".

Is it plausible that the main claimed effect -- preventing
oil oxidation -- can be accomplished by the claimed
mechanism of introducing a small amount of silver
ions into the oil?

Well from what I read it's intended mainly for restaurants and not for
home use. I would do a search on Google and read more about rather
than listen to all the naysayers here. I'm not saying it works but you
can't jump to a conclusion about something without having all the
facts.

Mark Thorson said:

Supposedly, this device makes frying oils last much
longer:

http://www.oilfresh.com/

A couple things which raise my suspicions are that it
invokes the "nanotechnology" buzzword, and it claims
that it "de-clusters lumpy formations of oil molecules".

Is it plausible that the main claimed effect -- preventing
oil oxidation -- can be accomplished by the claimed
mechanism of introducing a small amount of silver
ions into the oil?

With amazing nanotechnology like that, how could it *not* work? HTH :-)

Bob

A trick. Exactly the logic "if it works for restaurants, it must
*certainly* work"

Introducing silver ions into oil can only make it go bad faster, as
Ag(+) acts as oxidant. It is long-knon that especialy copper containers
are especialy bad for frying since Cu(II) and Cu(I) at fryig
temperatures promote oil oxidation by air (so the oil develops the
burnt and rancid smell faster).

Recently, I have seen nanonceramic sticker for prolonging life of cell
phone batery. You know, you stick this expensive sticker on top of your
cell phone batery and i will ionise the batery electrolyte and the
batery wil have better capacity and faster charging. There is another
device, a clamp with magnets in it. It is supposed to improve wine
quality - you clamp it arond the neck of wine flask and by pouring wine
from the bottle through the magnetic field, the wine taste will get
better with every glass you drink.

muha said:

Introducing silver ions into oil can only make it go bad faster,
as Ag(+) acts as oxidant. It is long-knon that especialy copper
containers are especialy bad for frying since Cu(II) and Cu(I)
at fryig temperatures promote oil oxidation by air (so the oil
develops the burnt and rancid smell faster).

I expect that of copper. I don't know about silver.
The "chemistry" is shown at the bottom of this page:

http://www.oilfresh.com/technology

For some reason, the button to get to this page from
their home page doesn't work with my browser.

Mark Thorson said:

muha said:

Introducing silver ions into oil can only make it go bad faster,
as Ag(+) acts as oxidant. It is long-knon that especialy copper
containers are especialy bad for frying since Cu(II) and Cu(I)
at fryig temperatures promote oil oxidation by air (so the oil
develops the burnt and rancid smell faster).

I expect that of copper. I don't know about silver.
The "chemistry" is shown at the bottom of this page:

http://www.oilfresh.com/technology

For some reason, the button to get to this page from
their home page doesn't work with my browser.

They don't even know how to spell "liter" - they spell it "litter".
Silver is a heavy metal and silver ions are poisionous. I would avoid
this product like the plague.

-L.

Wandering along the edges of rec.food.cooking, I found the following bit of
electronic flotsam written by "muha" <[email hidden]> in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Recently, I have seen nanonceramic sticker for prolonging life of cell
phone batery. You know, you stick this expensive sticker on top of your
cell phone batery and i will ionise the batery electrolyte and the
batery wil have better capacity and faster charging. There is another
device, a clamp with magnets in it. It is supposed to improve wine
quality - you clamp it arond the neck of wine flask and by pouring wine
from the bottle through the magnetic field, the wine taste will get
better with every glass you drink.

and there was the magnet for pulling the minerals out of the water in your
toilet. My mom bought some of these and *ordered* me to put them in all
the house toilets. I threw them away, and a couple of weeks later asked
her how they were working out . . . . "Oh! They're working just fine!"