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Cotterpin bb conversion

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  1. I'm working on getting a 1960s Torpado up and running and have removed the
    cranks and bottom brack spindle but can't get the fixed cup off (it's got
    three notches, not opposing flat faces, and I don't have the proper diameter
    lockring and hammering with a screwdriver is just damaging my screwdriver).
    I'm thinking that I could just leave the fixed cup on an get a new bottom
    bracket for the other side and put on newer square-taper cranks. So I've got
    few questions:

    1. If I dremel or otherwise get a good hold on the cup to
    put the frame in the bench vice, which way is the fixed
    cup threaded?

    2. If I go for a new square-taper spindle, is there a
    formula for determining a proper spindle length?
    Current spindle is 134mm end-to-end, 42mm edge-of-cone-to-
    end driveside, 32mm non-driveside. The bearings look
    to be the same size (1/4"?) as other bottom brackets
    so I'm assuming I can use the fixed cup that's well
    fixed in there.

    Thanks in advance,

    Seng

  2. Keeper of the Mighty Macaulay said:

    I'm working on getting a 1960s Torpado up and running and
    have removed the cranks and bottom brack spindle but can't
    get the fixed cup off (it's got three notches, not
    opposing flat faces, and I don't have the proper diameter
    lockring and hammering with a screwdriver is just damaging
    my screwdriver).

    There's a trick to doing these with a big bolt.

    See: sheldonbrown.combbcups.html

    Quoted message said:

    I'm thinking that I could just leave the fixed cup on an
    get a new bottom bracket for the other side and put on
    newer square-taper cranks.

    That's perfectly reasonable if the cups are in decent shape.

    Quoted message said:

    1. If I dremel or otherwise get a good hold on the cup to
    put the frame in the bench vice, which way is the fixed
    cup threaded?

    Italian thread is right-hand on both sides, lefty loosey.

    Quoted message said:

    2. If I go for a new square-taper spindle, is there a
    formula for determining a proper spindle length?
    Current spindle is 134mm end-to-end, 42mm edge-of-cone-to-
    end driveside, 32mm non-driveside. The bearings look to
    be the same size (1/4"?) as other bottom brackets so
    I'm assuming I can use the fixed cup that's well fixed
    in there.

    That's true. You'll also want to match the distance betwixt
    the cone ridges on the spindle. Italian bikes generally have
    70 mm shells and call for a 5** series spindle.

    How long it needs to be is not a matter of formulae, but has
    to do with the crankset you choose and the desired
    chainline.

    See: sheldonbrown.combbsize for detailed info on
    that.

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