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  1. nature.com040510 5.html

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    Epidemic reflects rise in refined sugars.

    12 May 2004

    HELEN PEARSON

    The startling rise in diabetes is perfectly mirrored by our
    mounting consumption of refined carbohydrates, a new
    analysis reveals. The study adds to evidence that sugary
    foods should be eschewed and that public health advice to
    cut back on fat may have backfired.

    Levels of obesity and late onset diabetes have risen slowly
    over the last century and accelerated in the last 40 years.
    While the problem is most acute in developed countries,
    there is evidence that rates are starting to increase in
    developing countries too. Most experts agree that worsening
    diets and increasingly inactive lifestyles are responsible,
    but the exact cause is hard to pin down.

    Simin Liu of the Harvard School of Public Health, Boston,
    and his co-workers collected information on consumption and
    food composition for the period between 1909 and 1997. They
    compared this with data on disease incidence rates from the
    US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    The climb in diabetes goes hand in hand with the rise in
    total calorie intake, the team reports in the American
    Journal of Clinical Nutrition1. This fits the idea that
    obesity places people at risk of diabetes.

    But when Liu broke down the figures into proteins, fats
    and carbohydrates, a different picture emerged. Neither
    fat consumption nor protein seem to be the root cause of
    the problem.

    Instead, the diabetes rise best matches dropping fibre
    consumption and escalating consumption of corn syrup, a
    ubiquitous sweetener in today's processed foods. "It is
    quite striking," says nutritional scientist Cyril Kendall of
    the University of Toronto, Canada.

    Foods high in refined carbohydrate, the argument goes, send
    blood sugar soaring, requiring the pancreas to pump out
    insulin. Over time, the body's tissues become resistant to
    the excess insulin and pancreatic cells wear out, resulting
    in diabetes.

    Liu's analysis does not prove that corn syrup caused the
    increase in diabetes, experts are careful to point out. But
    the finding bolsters the idea that this and other highly
    refined carbohydrates such as white flour, white rice and
    sugar put people at risk of obesity and diabetes.

    That refined carbs are the culprits might seem obvious, but
    the idea is at the centre of much controversy. In January
    this year, for example, the World Health Organization
    released a draft road map for tackling obesity, which among
    other targets pinpoints reductions in sugary foods. The US
    government attempted to undermine these recommendations,
    some claim, because of pressure from the food industry.

    Studies by Liu and others now make it harder to deny that
    excess sugar is bad for our health. Epidemiological studies,
    which track people's health over time, have also shown that
    those who eat more refined carbohydrates are at greater risk
    of developing diabetes "Together they make a compelling
    case," says David Ludwig, a researcher also at the Harvard
    School of Public Health.

    Liu's analysis also backs the argument that, since the 60s
    and 70s, advice to the public to cut back on fat has
    misfired. Some experts say such advice led food
    manufacturers simply to replace fats with carbohydrates,
    which ultimately fuelled obesity rather than combating
    it.

    The study shows that the amount of corn syrup people ate
    started rocketing at roughly the time the low-fat health
    message was being broadcast. "Never before have people eaten
    so much highly refined carbohydrates and led such a
    sedentary lifestyle," says Ludwig.

    Many nutritionists now advocate a diet that avoids refined
    carbohydrates in favour of wholegrain alternatives. They
    also promote the choice of healthy fats, such as vegetable
    oils rather than animal fats, as well as fruits, vegetables
    and frequent exercise.

    But this message has yet to be accepted or incorporated into
    many public health guidelines, says nutritionist Kendall. On
    top of this, many people are confused by conflicting health
    messages, such as the Atkins diet's recommendation to spurn
    all carbohydrates. "We need to rethink our approach to
    diet," Kendall says.

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  2. "Diarmid Logan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    nature.com040510 5.html

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    Epidemic reflects rise in refined sugars.

    Hmm! It would be interesting to find out just when Coca
    Cola changed from using sugar to using corn syrup in its
    soft drink.

    Does this correlate with the timing of the diabetes
    epidemic?

    PJ

  3. On Wed, 12 May 2004 19:48:40 -0400, "Peanutjake" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Diarmid Logan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    nature.com040510 5.html

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    Epidemic reflects rise in refined sugars.

    Hmm! It would be interesting to find out just when Coca
    Cola changed from using sugar to using corn syrup in its
    soft drink.

    Does this correlate with the timing of the diabetes
    epidemic?

    PJ

    I doubt it, diabetes doesn't respect national boundaries but
    HFCS is mainly a US thing.

    However, that doesn't mean it may not be a factor in
    your country.

    Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and
    carbs to email.
    --
    Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

  4. On Wed, 12 May 2004 19:48:40 -0400, "Peanutjake" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Diarmid Logan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    nature.com040510 5.html

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    Epidemic reflects rise in refined sugars.

    Hmm! It would be interesting to find out just when Coca
    Cola changed from using sugar to using corn syrup in its
    soft drink.

    Does this correlate with the timing of the diabetes
    epidemic?

    PJ

    I doubt it, diabetes doesn't respect national boundaries but
    HFCS is mainly a US thing.

    However, that doesn't mean it may not be a factor in
    your country.

    Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and
    carbs to email.
    --
    Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

  5. In 1980 50% of the cane sugar was replaced with high
    fructose corn syrup. By 1985 Coca-Cola was 100% sweetened by
    high fructose corn syrup. Greed and more profit was the
    reason for the switch.

    TerryR Type 2

    "Peanutjake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2gfrokF2cuvjU1@uni-
    berlin.de...

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    "Diarmid Logan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    nature.com040510 5.html

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    Epidemic reflects rise in refined sugars.

    Hmm! It would be interesting to find out just when Coca
    Cola changed from


    using sugar to using corn

    Quoted message said:

    syrup in its soft drink.

    Does this correlate with the timing of the diabetes
    epidemic?

    PJ

  6. In 1980 50% of the cane sugar was replaced with high
    fructose corn syrup. By 1985 Coca-Cola was 100% sweetened by
    high fructose corn syrup. Greed and more profit was the
    reason for the switch.

    TerryR Type 2

    "Peanutjake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2gfrokF2cuvjU1@uni-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:


    "Diarmid Logan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    nature.com040510 5.html

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    Epidemic reflects rise in refined sugars.

    Hmm! It would be interesting to find out just when Coca
    Cola changed from


    using sugar to using corn

    Quoted message said:

    syrup in its soft drink.

    Does this correlate with the timing of the diabetes
    epidemic?

    PJ

  7. "Peanutjake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    Epidemic reflects rise in refined sugars.

    Hmm! It would be interesting to find out just when Coca
    Cola changed from


    using sugar to using corn

    Quoted message said:

    syrup in its soft drink.

    Does this correlate with the timing of the diabetes
    epidemic?

    HFCS is in everything these days. I was dismayed to discover
    that it is now in ice cream. It is in almost all baked
    goods, including bread. It's in frozen dinners and some
    spaghetti sauce. But I think there has got to be more to
    blame for diabetes than that. I haven't had any regular soda
    since they first came out with Tab. And my diet has always
    been mainly whole, fresh foods. Oddly, I'm using more pre-
    packaged things now than I did prior to diabetes, but mainly
    because I have a young child and it's hard for me to make
    dinner with her demanding my attention. But I do check those
    labels to see what's in there before I buy.

    --
    Type 2 users.bestweb.net~jbove

  8. The problem with HFCS is that it encourages excessive
    caloric consumption (even more so than sucrose), which then
    leads to an overworked/overstimulated sugar metabolism,
    which leads to the obesity/diabetes epidemic.

    HFCS is half glucose, half fructose. Though fructose is low
    gi (in that it has very little effect on blood sugar), when
    found in the form of HFCS - that is, stripped of its natural
    fiber (as fructose occurs in plants) - it offers very little
    satiety for its calories. It is possible to consume a great
    deal of raw fructose (or even fructose from fruit!) and
    never feel satisfied despite ingesting lots of calories.

    The glucose in HFCS simultaneously poses another threat, as
    glucose very readily assimilates as blood sugar in the body.
    Glucose has an extremely high GI, and therefore consuming a
    great deal of dietary glucose could promote insulin
    resistence syndrome, or at least exacerbate those with
    undiagnosed IRS.

    So with HFCS you have one of the worst sweetners ever
    invented: calorie for calorie it has half the satiety of
    traditional sucrose, but it spikes the blood sugar producing
    a metabolic load just as great (though fructose has a gi of
    20-30, glucose has a gi of over 100, brinigng the GI of HFCS
    to about 65 which is equal to that of sucrose).

    Soft drinks and fruit juices made from HFCS play havoc with
    energy levels and offer very little satiety for the calories
    they contain. This then leads to over eating, obesity, and
    diabetes. On 12 May 2004 08:03:37 -0700,

    (Diarmid Logan) said:

    nature.com040510 5.html

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    Epidemic reflects rise in refined sugars.

    12 May 2004

    HELEN PEARSON

    The startling rise in diabetes is perfectly mirrored by our
    mounting consumption of refined carbohydrates, a new
    analysis reveals. The study adds to evidence that sugary
    foods should be eschewed and that public health advice to
    cut back on fat may have backfired.

    Levels of obesity and late onset diabetes have risen slowly
    over the last century and accelerated in the last 40 years.
    While the problem is most acute in developed countries,
    there is evidence that rates are starting to increase in
    developing countries too. Most experts agree that worsening
    diets and increasingly inactive lifestyles are responsible,
    but the exact cause is hard to pin down.

    Simin Liu of the Harvard School of Public Health, Boston,
    and his co-workers collected information on consumption and
    food composition for the period between 1909 and 1997. They
    compared this with data on disease incidence rates from the
    US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    The climb in diabetes goes hand in hand with the rise in
    total calorie intake, the team reports in the American
    Journal of Clinical Nutrition1. This fits the idea that
    obesity places people at risk of diabetes.

    But when Liu broke down the figures into proteins, fats
    and carbohydrates, a different picture emerged. Neither
    fat consumption nor protein seem to be the root cause of
    the problem.

    Instead, the diabetes rise best matches dropping fibre
    consumption and escalating consumption of corn syrup, a
    ubiquitous sweetener in today's processed foods. "It is
    quite striking," says nutritional scientist Cyril Kendall
    of the University of Toronto, Canada.

    Foods high in refined carbohydrate, the argument goes, send
    blood sugar soaring, requiring the pancreas to pump out
    insulin. Over time, the body's tissues become resistant to
    the excess insulin and pancreatic cells wear out, resulting
    in diabetes.

    Liu's analysis does not prove that corn syrup caused the
    increase in diabetes, experts are careful to point out. But
    the finding bolsters the idea that this and other highly
    refined carbohydrates such as white flour, white rice and
    sugar put people at risk of obesity and diabetes.

    That refined carbs are the culprits might seem obvious, but
    the idea is at the centre of much controversy. In January
    this year, for example, the World Health Organization
    released a draft road map for tackling obesity, which among
    other targets pinpoints reductions in sugary foods. The US
    government attempted to undermine these recommendations,
    some claim, because of pressure from the food industry.

    Studies by Liu and others now make it harder to deny that
    excess sugar is bad for our health. Epidemiological
    studies, which track people's health over time, have also
    shown that those who eat more refined carbohydrates are at
    greater risk of developing diabetes "Together they make a
    compelling case," says David Ludwig, a researcher also at
    the Harvard School of Public Health.

    Liu's analysis also backs the argument that, since the 60s
    and 70s, advice to the public to cut back on fat has
    misfired. Some experts say such advice led food
    manufacturers simply to replace fats with carbohydrates,
    which ultimately fuelled obesity rather than combating
    it.

    The study shows that the amount of corn syrup people ate
    started rocketing at roughly the time the low-fat health
    message was being broadcast. "Never before have people
    eaten so much highly refined carbohydrates and led such a
    sedentary lifestyle," says Ludwig.

    Many nutritionists now advocate a diet that avoids refined
    carbohydrates in favour of wholegrain alternatives. They
    also promote the choice of healthy fats, such as vegetable
    oils rather than animal fats, as well as fruits, vegetables
    and frequent exercise.

    But this message has yet to be accepted or incorporated
    into many public health guidelines, says nutritionist
    Kendall. On top of this, many people are confused by
    conflicting health messages, such as the Atkins diet's
    recommendation to spurn all carbohydrates. "We need to
    rethink our approach to diet," Kendall says.

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  9. "Diarmid Logan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    nature.com040510 5.html

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    HuaKul posted some very provocative information re type II
    diabetes and fructose back in 2002. I saved the post, and
    have reproduced it below. Quite interesting, and suggests
    possible mechanisms for the role too much fructose may play
    in fattening us up, as well as promoting diabetes. The below
    is his post in full, including abstracts:

    ==================================================================

    Fructose is worse than just an added sugar. The following
    article shows that rats deficient in a protein called
    insulin receptor substrate-2 become obese and diabetic. The
    abstract summary that follows shows that IRS-2 is
    significantly reduced by fructose, more than sucrose. In
    1976 the US soft drink companies started using high fructose
    corn sweetener because it was cheaper than using sucrose,
    and by 1980 the switch was complete. Other processed food
    manufacturers followed suit, and now fructose is ubiquitous.
    One almost can't find a processed food without fructose;
    soda pop, salad dressings, baked goods, even some fruit
    juices are sweetened with fructose. At the same time the US
    media and medical spokesmen lament the T2 diabetes and
    obesity "epidemic," especially among juveniles, that they
    claim started in 1980. No one is making the connection, but
    it seems obvious to me that fructose as a sweetener is the
    culprit. It's very normal for US teens to drink 2 liters or
    more of soda pop each day. That's over 200g of pure
    fructose. This is on top of all the junk food and bakery
    they also eat, sweetened with fructose.

    ========================================================
    "Researchers Find Common Link Between Diabetes, Obesity and
    Infertility Joslin Diabetes Center AScribe Newswire -
    September 20, 2000

    BOSTON, Sept. 20 (AScribe News) -- Research published in
    this week's issue of the journal Nature shows that insulin
    receptor substrate-2 (IRS-2), a protein inside of cells that
    is essential for normal response to insulin, might also
    promote fertility and fight against obesity.

    The study shows that female mice lacking the IRS-2 gene
    rarely become pregnant, consume more food, and become fat.

    "IRS-2 is like a switchboard that coordinates appetite, fat
    storage, and blood glucose together with energy demanding
    processes like reproduction, development, and tissue
    repair," says Morris F. White, Ph.D., of the Joslin Diabetes
    Center and the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.

    Two years ago, a group of scientists led by Dr. White
    discovered that IRS-2 is required not only for normal
    insulin action, but also promotes the survival of pancreatic
    beta cells that secrete insulin into the blood. Insulin
    action and secretion are two of the important processes that
    fail in people with type 2 diabetes, and never before was
    the link between insulin use and production so closely
    established. Now, the addition of obesity and reproduction
    to the list of processes regulated by IRS-2 suggests that
    type 2 diabetes and its association with obesity, reduced
    fertility, and other complications might share a common
    molecular defect.

    Dr. White's group began to study IRS-2 in mice because it
    helps them understand the problems that occur during
    type 2 diabetes. Type 2 diabetes is an increasingly
    common disease that occurs in people when the cells in
    the liver, muscle and fat require more insulin to
    control blood glucose than the pancreatic beta cells can
    make. When IRS-2 is present and working, surprisingly
    low levels of insulin can keep blood glucose under
    control. But like people with type 2 diabetes,
    genetically altered mice lacking IRS-2 need more insulin
    and eventually develop diabetes, not because the insulin
    resistance is so severe, but because their pancreatic
    islets fail to make enough insulin to keep up with the
    greater demand.

    "IRS-2 failure is a double-edged sword," says Dr. White,
    "because IRS-2 is needed so peripheral tissues can use
    insulin, and needed to help keep pancreatic beta cells
    alive longer so they can secrete more insulin to the
    resistant tissues."

    Female mice lacking IRS-2 develop diabetes between 18-20
    weeks of age, much later in life than their male
    counterparts who die of diabetic complications around 10
    weeks of age. But long before the female mice develop
    diabetes, they over-eat and become obese, and have reduced
    fertility.

    "In the beginning, these findings surprised us," says
    Deborah J. Burks, Ph.D., of Joslin and the lead author of
    the study, "but now we're beginning to appreciate that the
    IRS-2 branch of the insulin signaling pathway might have an
    important job in the brain to help coordinate food intake
    and promote reproduction."

    The IRS-2-deficient mice over-eat despite the presence of
    excess amounts of leptin in their blood. Leptin is a protein
    produced in fat cells that circulates to the hypothalamus, a
    special region of the brain, to suppress appetite. However,
    without IRS-2, female mice respond weakly to the appetite-
    suppressing effects of leptin, and thus over-eat and gain
    weight until enough leptin is finally produced to suppress
    their appetite. Since IRS-2 molecules transmit insulin
    signals within cells, these studies suggest that insulin
    itself might participate in the regulation of food intake.

    The ability of the brain to detect and respond to blood
    insulin levels has been controversial for decades, but these
    results and other recent evidence suggest that to regulate
    appetite the brain must detect circulating insulin.
    Scientists and clinicians have known for a long time that
    obesity and chronic insulin resistance go hand-in-hand, but
    they usually say that obesity causes insulin resistance.
    That's one of the reasons why obesity is said to be a risk
    factor for type 2 diabetes. But evidence in this study
    suggests that it could be the other way around, with insulin
    resistance initially dysregulating appetite that contributes
    to obesity. The developing obesity exacerbates the insulin
    resistance, which further burdens the pancreatic beta cells.

    "It appears that IRS-2 helps coordinates insulin production
    and nutrient metabolism to promote important biological
    processes that reflect our health and fitness such as
    appetite and fertility," Dr. Burks says. Female mice without
    IRS-2 have a difficult time getting pregnant weeks before
    they develop diabetes. The root of this deficiency begins
    before birth, as ovaries in IRS-2 deficient mice develop
    fewer primary oocytes. But in adults, the reproductive cycle
    fails, not only because the ovaries are small and
    unresponsive to gonadotropins, but also because cells in the
    pituitary secrete less of these hormones. Clinicians have
    known for years that women with polycystic ovarian syndrome
    (PCOS) are frequently obese, but they are starting to
    realize that these infertile women are usually insulin
    resistant. This combination of endocrine disorders might be
    related through the action of IRS-2.

    "Type 2 diabetes is more than a problem with blood glucose,"
    Dr. White says. "High blood glucose is the easiest thing to
    measure, but the underlying cause might reside in the IRS-2
    branch of the insulin-signaling pathway. You can live with
    reduced IRS-2 function, but you might be glucose intolerant,
    over-eat and gain weight; have a difficult time becoming
    pregnant and when you do, develop gestational diabetes; and
    worst of all, face life with pancreatic beta cells that
    eventually fail to make enough insulin to avoid the life-
    threatening consequences of type 2 diabetes."

    Standard treatments for diabetes don't target IRS-2
    signaling. "Given the critical role of this molecule in the
    maintenance of glucose homeostasis and reproduction, it
    might be ideal to develop new drugs to repair IRS-2
    function," say the researchers, "because these therapies
    might reduce weight gain and the amount of insulin needed in
    the body while ensuring adequate insulin production
    throughout life." AScribe - The Public Interest Newswire /
    510-645-4600"
    ================================================
    Braz J Med Biol Res 2000 Dec;33(12):1421-7 A high-fructose
    diet induces changes in pp185 phosphorylation in muscle and
    liver of rats. Ueno M, Bezerra RM, Silva MS, Tavares DQ,
    Carvalho CR, Saad MJ Departamento de Planejamento Alimentar
    e Nutricao, Faculdade de Engenharia de Alimentos,
    Universidade Estadual de Campinas, Campinas, SP, Brasil.

    Insulin stimulates the tyrosine kinase activity of its
    receptor resulting in the tyrosine phosphorylation of pp185,
    which contains insulin receptor substrates IRS-1 and IRS-2.
    These early steps in insulin action are essential for the
    metabolic effects of insulin. Feeding animals a high-
    fructose diet results in insulin resistance. However, the
    exact molecular mechanism underlying this effect is unknown.
    In the present study, we determined the levels and
    phosphorylation status of the insulin receptor and pp185 (IRS-
    (1/2)) in liver and muscle of rats submitted to a high-
    fructose diet evaluated by immunoblotting with specific
    antibodies. Feeding fructose (28 days) induced a discrete
    insulin resistance, as demonstrated by the insulin tolerance
    test. Plasma glucose and serum insulin and cholesterol
    levels of the two groups of rats, fructose-fed and control,
    were similar, whereas plasma triacylglycerol concentration
    was significantly increased in the rats submitted to the
    fructose diet (P<0.05). There were no changes in insulin
    receptor concentration in the liver or muscle of either
    group. However, insulin-stimulated receptor
    autophosphorylation was reduced to 72 /- 4% (P<0.05) in the
    liver of high-fructose rats. The IRS-1 protein levels were
    similar in both liver and muscle of the two groups of rats.
    In contrast, there was a significant decrease in insulin-
    induced pp185 (IRS-(1/2)) phosphorylation, to 83 /- 5%
    (P<0.05) in liver and to 77 /- 4% (P<0.05) in muscle of the
    high-fructose rats. These data suggest that changes in the
    early steps of insulin signal transduction may have an
    important role in the insulin resistance induced by high-
    fructose feeding. PMID: 11105093
    =========================================================

    --Hua Kul

  10. TerryR said:

    In 1980 50% of the cane sugar was replaced with high
    fructose corn syrup. By 1985 Coca-Cola was 100% sweetened
    by high fructose corn syrup. Greed and more profit was the
    reason for the switch.

    In *some countries*. The Coca-Cola I see is 100% sweetened
    with sugar.

    --
    John

  11. TerryR wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    In 1980 50% of the cane sugar was replaced with high
    fructose corn syrup.


    By

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    1985 Coca-Cola was 100% sweetened by high fructose corn
    syrup. Greed and more profit was the reason for the switch.

    TerryR Type 2

    U.S. sugar prices are controlled artificially high by way
    of import quotas on imported sugar. High Fructose corn
    syrup is more expensive than world sugar, cheaper than
    U.S. sugar. Last prices I saw were $ 0.065/lb for World
    sugar, $0.14/lb for HFCS, $0.18/lb for U.S. sugar but
    they all bounce around quite a bit.

    I suppose you could say "Greed" was the cause of somebody
    swiching to cheaper HFCS (actually still paying more than
    World-sugar-prices to sweeten their product) but really they
    just got tired of paying double for sweetener.

    Sugar is converted to fructose and glucose in the body at a
    50:50 ratio. High Fructose Corn Syrup is called that because
    it originally contained
    55:45 fructose: glucose ratio, about the same as sugar. Corn
    syrup was originally High Glucose Corn Syrup. (35:65)

    The main problem is cheap sweets from cheap High fructose
    corn syrup. Cheap sweets means people can buy more sweets,
    which they do cause they like the taste. In Europe, they
    eat cheap sweets because sugar is cheap. I suppose they
    could put really high taxes on fast carbs to cut diabetes
    about the same way they put really high taxes on tobacco
    to cut smoking and really high taxes on whiskey to cut
    alcohol consumption but it is a bit scary when they tax
    food that way.

    Umm. . .the real problem is a genetic response to high
    levels of abdominal fat (High Insulin Resistance) which is a
    killer. We could make it illegal to have excess abdominal
    fat or make it mandatory to take Step Aerobic classes but
    that's objectionable to most folks.

    Regards Old Al (adult-onset T1. . .looking at the whole
    thing from the sidelines)

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    "Diarmid Logan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    nature.com040510 5.html

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    HuaKul posted some very provocative information re type II
    diabetes and fructose back in 2002. I saved the post, and
    have reproduced it below.


    Quite

    Quoted message said:

    interesting, and suggests possible mechanisms for the role
    too much


    fructose

    Quoted message said:

    may play in fattening us up, as well as promoting
    diabetes. The below is


    his

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    post in full, including abstracts:

    <Big Snip>

    Quoted message said:


    These data suggest that

    Quoted message said:

    changes in the early steps of insulin signal transduction
    may have an important role in the insulin resistance
    induced by high-fructose feeding. PMID: 11105093
    =========================================================

    --Hua Kul

    Thanks for Hua Kul's post. re "Morris F. White,

    Quoted message said:

    Ph.D., of the Joslin Diabetes Center and the Howard Hughes
    Medical Institute."

    Howard Hughes Medical Institute is an excellent independent
    source/funder of diabetes research. Sign up for their news
    letter at: hhmi.orghhmi.org Reports on Maurice White's
    and others work in this area.

    The following is a comprehensive, well referenced, FULL-TEXT
    (11 page) .pdf review of Fructose metabolism you may find
    interesting.

    MikeV

    American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol. 76, No. 5,
    911-922, November 2002 © 2002 American Society for
    Clinical Nutrition
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    AJCN SPECIAL ARTICLE

    tinyurl.comys8lj

    Fructose, weight gain, and the insulin resistance
    syndrome1,2,3

    Sharon S Elliott, Nancy L Keim, Judith S Stern, Karen Teff
    and Peter J Havel 1 From the Department of Nutrition,
    University of California, Davis (SSE, JSS, and PJH); the
    US Department of Agriculture Western Human Nutrition
    Research Center, Davis, CA (NLK); and the Monell Chemical
    Senses Institute and the University of Pennsylvania,
    Philadelphia (KT).

    2 Supported by the NIH (DK-50129), the University of
    California Davis Clinical Nutrition Research Unit (DK-
    35747), the American Diabetes Association, and the US
    Department of Agriculture.

    3 Address reprint requests to PJ Havel, Department of
    Nutrition, University of California, Davis, One Shields
    Avenue, Davis, CA 95616. E-mail: [email hidden].

    ABSTRACT ABSTRACT INTRODUCTION FRUCTOSE CONSUMPTION
    FRUCTOSE METABOLISM FRUCTOSE, ENERGY INTAKE, AND...
    FRUCTOSE CONSUMPTION AND INSULIN... FRUCTOSE CONSUMPTION
    AND LIPIDS FRUCTOSE AND HYPERTENSION CONCLUSIONS
    REFERENCES

    This review explores whether fructose consumption might be a
    contributing factor to the development of obesity and the
    accompanying metabolic abnormalities observed in the insulin
    resistance syndrome. The per capita disappearance data for
    fructose from the combined consumption of sucrose and high-
    fructose corn syrup have increased by 26%, from 64 g/d in
    1970 to 81
    g/d in 1997. Both plasma insulin and leptin act in the
    central nervous system in the long-term regulation of
    energy homeostasis. Because fructose does not stimulate
    insulin secretion from pancreatic ß cells, the consumption
    of foods and beverages containing fructose produces
    smaller postprandial insulin excursions than does
    consumption of glucose-containing carbohydrate. Because
    leptin production is regulated by insulin responses to
    meals, fructose consumption also reduces circulating
    leptin concentrations. The combined effects of lowered
    circulating leptin and insulin in individuals who consume
    diets that are high in dietary fructose could therefore
    increase the likelihood of weight gain and its associated
    metabolic sequelae. In addition, fructose, compared with
    glucose, is preferentially metabolized to lipid in the
    liver. Fructose consumption induces insulin resistance,
    impaired glucose tolerance, hyperinsulinemia,
    hypertriacylglycerolemia, and hypertension in animal
    models. The data in humans are less clear. Although there
    are existing data on the metabolic and endocrine effects
    of dietary fructose that suggest that increased
    consumption of fructose may be detrimental in terms of
    body weight and adiposity and the metabolic indexes
    associated with the insulin resistance syndrome, much more
    research is needed to fully understand the metabolic
    effect of dietary fructose in humans.

  13. I suppose you could say "Greed" was the cause of somebody
    swiching to
    : cheaper HFCS

    suppose? 😉

  14. I suppose you could say "Greed" was the cause of somebody
    swiching to
    : cheaper HFCS

    suppose? 😉

  15. Corn syrup is predigested. When you eat predigested food
    your body does not need to digest it. That adds about 10% to
    the calories since 10% of your intake of calories is
    expended in the digestion process.

    Ora

    Peanutjake said:


    "Diarmid Logan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    nature.com040510 5.html

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    Epidemic reflects rise in refined sugars.

    Hmm! It would be interesting to find out just when Coca
    Cola changed from using sugar to using corn syrup in its
    soft drink.

    Does this correlate with the timing of the diabetes
    epidemic?

    PJ

  16. Quoted message said:

    Corn syrup is predigested. When you eat predigested food
    your body does not need to digest it. That adds about 10%
    to the calories since 10% of your intake of calories is
    expended in the digestion process.

    Ora


    But table sugar is basically glucose and fructose. See:

    Sucrose, common table sugar, has a glycosidic bond linking
    the anomeric hydroxyls of glucose and fructose. Because the
    configuration at the anomeric carbon of glucose is a (O
    points down from the ring), the linkage is designated
    a(1®2). The full name is a-D-glucopyranosyl-(1®2)b-D-
    fructopyranose.

    From:

    rpi.edupart2
    /sugar.htm

    It can't take much to break the bond between the two.
    Fructose has a glycemic index of 22, glucose is 100, and
    table sugar is 64. See:

    diabetesnet.comglycemic
    _index.php

    If you take an average of fructose and glucose, you get 61,
    which is about what table sugar's GI is. This means to me
    that it doesn't take a lot to break the bond holding sugar
    together. According to the following site, sucrose (sugar)
    is acted on by the stomach:

    learn.co.ukdefault.asp

    Granted, some digestion occurs, but it's relatively minor
    compared to, for instance, eating green or red peppers.

    --
    Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    TerryR said:

    In 1980 50% of the cane sugar was replaced with high
    fructose corn syrup. By 1985 Coca-Cola was 100% sweetened
    by high fructose corn syrup. Greed and more profit was the
    reason for the switch.

    TerryR Type 2

    The people who run companies have a fiduciary
    responsebility to maximize profits. They can be sued for
    not maximizing profit.

  18. Quoted message said:
    TerryR said:

    In 1980 50% of the cane sugar was replaced with high
    fructose corn syrup.


    By 1985 Coca-Cola was 100% sweetened by high fructose corn
    syrup. Greed and more profit was the reason for the switch.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "John Treenan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    In *some countries*. The Coca-Cola I see is 100% sweetened
    with sugar.

    And isn't this why the urine glucose strip soda test doesn't
    work in all countries?

    BTW, I have no problem with CC making a profit -- they are
    in BUSINESS to make MONEY. If enough people demand something
    different and stop buying their product, they'll make
    changes -- viz. "New Coke" outcry & (re)-intro of "Classic
    Coke" (does "NC" still exist???).

    Fast food outlets are changing their menus because of
    customer demand -- but if not enough people actually buy the
    new things, they'll discontinue them (as with, for example,
    the McLean sandwich a few years back). bj

  19. Walter Bushell said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    TerryR said:

    In 1980 50% of the cane sugar was replaced with high
    fructose corn syrup. By 1985 Coca-Cola was 100% sweetened
    by high fructose corn syrup. Greed and more profit was
    the reason for the switch.

    TerryR Type 2

    The people who run companies have a fiduciary
    responsebility to maximize profits. They can be sued for
    not maximizing profit.

    This isn't correct. They have a fiduciary duty to the
    company, but not necessarily to maximize profits (although
    that tends to be what happens). Search for "fiduciary duty
    director". Moreover, what if keeping sugar would mean that
    more people would drink Coke (since high fructose corn syrup
    tastes nasty to me, although I rarely drink soda)?

    --
    Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply

  20. I just want to thank you so much for posting this, it was
    extremely informative. I feel like I've been given a gift in
    reading that.

    I fit the perfect model of impared irs-2 regulation
    expressed by the
    mice. The female mice who were bred to be deficient in irs-2
    over ate a lot, became obese, had impared fertility,
    and then finally ended in type 2 diabetes later i
    life. I too over ate (was hungry ALL the time never
    experiencing satiety), became obese, and always had
    impared fertility (pcos). I am only 21 and never
    developed diabetes, though I suspect it was waiting
    for me should I continue down the path I was on (my
    pancreatic cells are healthy and can mediate BG by
    still being able to pour out huge quantities of
    insulin... however over time IRS-2 causes beta cell
    death/decreased function which is what causes the
    diabetes).

    Learning that fructose suppresses IRS-2 makes so much sense
    to me, because I ate TONS of fructose before. I never was a
    typical "carbohydrate craver" in that I fancied desserts and
    stuff, however I was absolutely ADDICTED to fruits and fruit
    juices - all of which are very high in fructose. I would eat
    fruit and juice non-stop, all day.

    When I went on a LC diet all my symptoms decreased
    drastically (the need to over eat, the obesity, and the
    pcos). I attributed this change exclusively to reducing
    total glycemic load, but maybe reducing fructose intake
    is its own seperate factor. Recently I've been eating
    more fruits, and I notice my symptoms return again... I
    do seem to experience symptoms more readily from
    fruit/juice than I do from increased quantities of other
    sugars. Now I know why.

    I think I am going to eliminate unnecessary fructose from my
    diet. Fruit and juice contains relatively little nutrients
    for the calories and carbohydrate they contain anyway.

    Hannah Gruen said:


    "Diarmid Logan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    nature.com040510 5.html

    Corn syrup linked to diabetes

    HuaKul posted some very provocative information re type II
    diabetes and fructose back in 2002. I saved the post, and
    have reproduced it below. Quite interesting, and suggests
    possible mechanisms for the role too much fructose may play
    in fattening us up, as well as promoting diabetes. The
    below is his post in full, including abstracts:

    ==================================================================

    Quoted message said:


    Fructose is worse than just an added sugar. The following
    article shows that rats deficient in a protein called
    insulin receptor substrate-2 become obese and diabetic. The
    abstract summary that follows shows that IRS-2 is
    significantly reduced by fructose, more than sucrose. In
    1976 the US soft drink companies started using high
    fructose corn sweetener because it was cheaper than using
    sucrose, and by 1980 the switch was complete. Other
    processed food manufacturers followed suit, and now
    fructose is ubiquitous. One almost can't find a processed
    food without fructose; soda pop, salad dressings, baked
    goods, even some fruit juices are sweetened with fructose.
    At the same time the US media and medical spokesmen lament
    the T2 diabetes and obesity "epidemic," especially among
    juveniles, that they claim started in 1980. No one is
    making the connection, but it seems obvious to me that
    fructose as a sweetener is the culprit. It's very normal
    for US teens to drink 2 liters or more of soda pop each
    day. That's over 200g of pure fructose. This is on top of
    all the junk food and bakery they also eat, sweetened with
    fructose.

    ========================================================
    "Researchers Find Common Link Between Diabetes, Obesity and
    Infertility Joslin Diabetes Center AScribe Newswire -
    September 20, 2000

    BOSTON, Sept. 20 (AScribe News) -- Research published in
    this week's issue of the journal Nature shows that insulin
    receptor substrate-2 (IRS-2), a protein inside of cells
    that is essential for normal response to insulin, might
    also promote fertility and fight against obesity.

    The study shows that female mice lacking the IRS-2 gene
    rarely become pregnant, consume more food, and become fat.

    "IRS-2 is like a switchboard that coordinates appetite, fat
    storage, and blood glucose together with energy demanding
    processes like reproduction, development, and tissue
    repair," says Morris F. White, Ph.D., of the Joslin
    Diabetes Center and the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.

    Two years ago, a group of scientists led by Dr. White
    discovered that IRS-2 is required not only for normal
    insulin action, but also promotes the survival of
    pancreatic beta cells that secrete insulin into the blood.
    Insulin action and secretion are two of the important
    processes that fail in people with type 2 diabetes, and
    never before was the link between insulin use and
    production so closely established. Now, the addition of
    obesity and reproduction to the list of processes regulated
    by IRS-2 suggests that type 2 diabetes and its association
    with obesity, reduced fertility, and other complications
    might share a common molecular defect.

    Dr. White's group began to study IRS-2 in mice because it
    helps them understand the problems that occur during
    type 2 diabetes. Type 2 diabetes is an increasingly
    common disease that occurs in people when the cells in
    the liver, muscle and fat require more insulin to
    control blood glucose than the pancreatic beta cells
    can make. When IRS-2 is present and working,
    surprisingly low levels of insulin can keep blood
    glucose under control. But like people with type 2
    diabetes, genetically altered mice lacking IRS-2 need
    more insulin and eventually develop diabetes, not
    because the insulin resistance is so severe, but
    because their pancreatic islets fail to make enough
    insulin to keep up with the greater demand.

    "IRS-2 failure is a double-edged sword," says Dr. White,
    "because IRS-2 is needed so peripheral tissues can use
    insulin, and needed to help keep pancreatic beta cells
    alive longer so they can secrete more insulin to the
    resistant tissues."

    Female mice lacking IRS-2 develop diabetes between 18-20
    weeks of age, much later in life than their male
    counterparts who die of diabetic complications around 10
    weeks of age. But long before the female mice develop
    diabetes, they over-eat and become obese, and have reduced
    fertility.

    "In the beginning, these findings surprised us," says
    Deborah J. Burks, Ph.D., of Joslin and the lead author of
    the study, "but now we're beginning to appreciate that the
    IRS-2 branch of the insulin signaling pathway might have an
    important job in the brain to help coordinate food intake
    and promote reproduction."

    The IRS-2-deficient mice over-eat despite the presence of
    excess amounts of leptin in their blood. Leptin is a
    protein produced in fat cells that circulates to the
    hypothalamus, a special region of the brain, to suppress
    appetite. However, without IRS-2, female mice respond
    weakly to the appetite-suppressing effects of leptin, and
    thus over-eat and gain weight until enough leptin is
    finally produced to suppress their appetite. Since IRS-2
    molecules transmit insulin signals within cells, these
    studies suggest that insulin itself might participate in
    the regulation of food intake.

    The ability of the brain to detect and respond to blood
    insulin levels has been controversial for decades, but
    these results and other recent evidence suggest that to
    regulate appetite the brain must detect circulating
    insulin. Scientists and clinicians have known for a long
    time that obesity and chronic insulin resistance go hand-in-
    hand, but they usually say that obesity causes insulin
    resistance. That's one of the reasons why obesity is said
    to be a risk factor for type 2 diabetes. But evidence in
    this study suggests that it could be the other way around,
    with insulin resistance initially dysregulating appetite
    that contributes to obesity. The developing obesity
    exacerbates the insulin resistance, which further burdens
    the pancreatic beta cells.

    "It appears that IRS-2 helps coordinates insulin production
    and nutrient metabolism to promote important biological
    processes that reflect our health and fitness such as
    appetite and fertility," Dr. Burks says. Female mice
    without IRS-2 have a difficult time getting pregnant weeks
    before they develop diabetes. The root of this deficiency
    begins before birth, as ovaries in IRS-2 deficient mice
    develop fewer primary oocytes. But in adults, the
    reproductive cycle fails, not only because the ovaries are
    small and unresponsive to gonadotropins, but also because
    cells in the pituitary secrete less of these hormones.
    Clinicians have known for years that women with polycystic
    ovarian syndrome (PCOS) are frequently obese, but they are
    starting to realize that these infertile women are usually
    insulin resistant. This combination of endocrine disorders
    might be related through the action of IRS-2.

    "Type 2 diabetes is more than a problem with blood
    glucose," Dr. White says. "High blood glucose is the
    easiest thing to measure, but the underlying cause might
    reside in the IRS-2 branch of the insulin-signaling
    pathway. You can live with reduced IRS-2 function, but you
    might be glucose intolerant, over-eat and gain weight; have
    a difficult time becoming pregnant and when you do, develop
    gestational diabetes; and worst of all, face life with
    pancreatic beta cells that eventually fail to make enough
    insulin to avoid the life-threatening consequences of type
    2 diabetes."

    Standard treatments for diabetes don't target IRS-2
    signaling. "Given the critical role of this molecule in the
    maintenance of glucose homeostasis and reproduction, it
    might be ideal to develop new drugs to repair IRS-2
    function," say the researchers, "because these therapies
    might reduce weight gain and the amount of insulin needed
    in the body while ensuring adequate insulin production
    throughout life." AScribe - The Public Interest Newswire /
    510-645-4600"
    ================================================
    Braz J Med Biol Res 2000 Dec;33(12):1421-7 A high-fructose
    diet induces changes in pp185 phosphorylation in muscle
    and liver of rats. Ueno M, Bezerra RM, Silva MS, Tavares
    DQ, Carvalho CR, Saad MJ Departamento de Planejamento
    Alimentar e Nutricao, Faculdade de Engenharia de
    Alimentos, Universidade Estadual de Campinas, Campinas,
    SP, Brasil.

    Insulin stimulates the tyrosine kinase activity of its
    receptor resulting in the tyrosine phosphorylation of
    pp185, which contains insulin receptor substrates IRS-1 and
    IRS-2. These early steps in insulin action are essential
    for the metabolic effects of insulin. Feeding animals a high-
    fructose diet results in insulin resistance. However, the
    exact molecular mechanism underlying this effect is
    unknown. In the present study, we determined the levels and
    phosphorylation status of the insulin receptor and pp185
    (IRS-(1/2)) in liver and muscle of rats submitted to a high-
    fructose diet evaluated by immunoblotting with specific
    antibodies. Feeding fructose (28 days) induced a discrete
    insulin resistance, as demonstrated by the insulin
    tolerance test. Plasma glucose and serum insulin and
    cholesterol levels of the two groups of rats, fructose-fed
    and control, were similar, whereas plasma triacylglycerol
    concentration was significantly increased in the rats
    submitted to the fructose diet (P<0.05). There were no
    changes in insulin receptor concentration in the liver or
    muscle of either group. However, insulin-stimulated
    receptor autophosphorylation was reduced to 72 /- 4%
    (P<0.05) in the liver of high-fructose rats. The IRS-1
    protein levels were similar in both liver and muscle of the
    two groups of rats. In contrast, there was a significant
    decrease in insulin-induced pp185 (IRS-(1/2))
    phosphorylation, to 83 /- 5% (P<0.05) in liver and to 77 /-
    4% (P<0.05) in muscle of the high-fructose rats. These data
    suggest that changes in the early steps of insulin signal
    transduction may have an important role in the insulin
    resistance induced by high-fructose feeding. PMID: 11105093
    =========================================================

    --Hua Kul

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