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  1. Often one will see recipes that say "Cook on medium heat" or "Cook at a low
    setting" ... in the last few days I've seen mention on a couple of TV
    cooking shows that lead me to believe that the following may hold:

    Medium corresponds to 350 degrees F
    Medium-High corresponds to 375 degrees F

    I have no idea if that's generally accepted or not. So, what's the
    consensus here (right, like we're going to get a consensus!!) for:

    High
    Medium-High
    Medium
    Medium-Low
    Low
    Simmer

    We'll leave it as an exercise for myself to determine what that means at my
    altitude where water boils at about 195 degrees or so.

    Bob

  2. Bob said:

    Often one will see recipes that say "Cook on medium heat" or "Cook at a low
    setting" ... in the last few days I've seen mention on a couple of TV
    cooking shows that lead me to believe that the following may hold:

    Medium corresponds to 350 degrees F
    Medium-High corresponds to 375 degrees F

    I have no idea if that's generally accepted or not. So, what's the
    consensus here (right, like we're going to get a consensus!!) for:

    High
    Medium-High
    Medium
    Medium-Low
    Low
    Simmer

    Except for "simmer" (doesn't belong) those settings apply to oven
    temperatures, not cooktop temperatures. Cooktop settings do not
    correspond to particular temperatures, and with gas the flame burns at
    the same temperature regardless how low or high... with cooktops only
    the BTU setting is adjustable... which is why cook top burners do not
    have thermostats, with cooktops the cook needs to interpolate, which is
    one of the reasons gas is better, it's far easier to interpolate than
    electric. Ovens do employ a thermostat, and they cycle full on or full
    off, the oven BTU setting is not user adjustable.

    Sheldon

  3. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Bob said:

    Often one will see recipes that say "Cook on medium heat" or "Cook at a
    low
    setting" ... in the last few days I've seen mention on a couple of TV
    cooking shows that lead me to believe that the following may hold:

    Medium corresponds to 350 degrees F
    Medium-High corresponds to 375 degrees F

    I have no idea if that's generally accepted or not. So, what's the
    consensus here (right, like we're going to get a consensus!!) for:

    High
    Medium-High
    Medium
    Medium-Low
    Low
    Simmer

    Except for "simmer" (doesn't belong) those settings apply to oven
    temperatures, not cooktop temperatures. Cooktop settings do not
    correspond to particular temperatures, and with gas the flame burns at
    the same temperature regardless how low or high... with cooktops only
    the BTU setting is adjustable... which is why cook top burners do not
    have thermostats, with cooktops the cook needs to interpolate, which is
    one of the reasons gas is better, it's far easier to interpolate than
    electric. Ovens do employ a thermostat, and they cycle full on or full
    off, the oven BTU setting is not user adjustable.

    Sheldon

    I'm sorry, I should have been more explicit ... the original posting was
    meant for the planet Earth. Not sure where you reside but I do appreciate
    your efforts in responding ... the translation from your original tongue to
    English must have been a major effort.

  4. Bob said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    [...]

    I'm sorry, I should have been more explicit ... the original posting was
    meant for the planet Earth. Not sure where you reside but I do appreciate
    your efforts in responding ... the translation from your original tongue to
    English must have been a major effort.

    (golf clap)

    --Blair
    "Hearty spit-take."

  5. Sheldon replied to Bob

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Often one will see recipes that say "Cook on medium heat" or "Cook at a
    low setting" ... in the last few days I've seen mention on a couple of
    TV cooking shows that lead me to believe that the following may hold:

    Medium corresponds to 350 degrees F
    Medium-High corresponds to 375 degrees F

    I have no idea if that's generally accepted or not. So, what's the
    consensus here (right, like we're going to get a consensus!!) for:

    High
    Medium-High
    Medium
    Medium-Low
    Low
    Simmer

    Except for "simmer" (doesn't belong) those settings apply to oven
    temperatures, not cooktop temperatures. Cooktop settings do not
    correspond to particular temperatures, and with gas the flame burns at
    the same temperature regardless how low or high... with cooktops only
    the BTU setting is adjustable... which is why cook top burners do not
    have thermostats, with cooktops the cook needs to interpolate, which is
    one of the reasons gas is better, it's far easier to interpolate than
    electric. Ovens do employ a thermostat, and they cycle full on or full
    off, the oven BTU setting is not user adjustable.

    Now let's put this in the context of an electric pan, where the temperature
    given on the dial *does* correspond to a cooktop setting. "Simmer" would be
    right around 212F.

    If the reader is incapable of wrapping his head around that concept, he may
    choose to continue to think of cooktop settings in terms of BTU's, though
    good cooks wouldn't.

    Bob

  6. Bob said:

    Often one will see recipes that say "Cook on medium heat" or "Cook at a
    low setting" ... in the last few days I've seen mention on a couple of TV
    cooking shows that lead me to believe that the following may hold:

    Medium corresponds to 350 degrees F
    Medium-High corresponds to 375 degrees F

    I have no idea if that's generally accepted or not. So, what's the
    consensus here (right, like we're going to get a consensus!!) for:

    High
    Medium-High
    Medium
    Medium-Low
    Low
    Simmer

    We'll leave it as an exercise for myself to determine what that means at
    my altitude where water boils at about 195 degrees or so.

    The reason those terms are so vague is there is so much variability when
    using a cooktop. On gas stoves, the power of a burner "full on" can vary
    more than two to one from a low end older stove (Magic Chef, 9000 Btu) to a
    high end newer stove (Blue Star, 22000 Btu). If the burner controls were
    marked similar to your list above, obviously the high on one would not equal
    the high on the other, nor wouild any other position.

    The other big variable is the size of the pan. Take these two examples, a
    little six inch pan cooking two small link sausages, and a big twelve inch
    pan cooking two big steaks. To reach the same surface temperature, the large
    pan with the two steaks is going to take a far greater amount of power than
    the little pan with the two sausages. There is more food to absorb the heat,
    and more pan area to dissipate it with the large pan, so the burner will
    have to be turned higher to get the same pan temperature.

    So it is left to the cook to figure out where to turn the burner control.
    Just as a rough approximation, one might say high is full on, medium is half
    on, simmer is almost off, with the others in between. One then adjusts the
    burner up or down depending on whether the food is cooking too fast or too
    slow. With experience, one gets to be pretty good at it and no longer thinks
    about it... but if one moves to a different stove or a different pan or a
    different amount of food in the pan, one can get thrown off.

    Another poster mentioned an electric pan with a thermostatic control. That
    would make temperature settings actually make sense. I know years ago (mid
    1960s) they used to make cooktops (both gas and electric models) with one
    thermostatically controlled burner. My parents had a Caloric gas stove with
    one, and it was called "Burner-with-a-Brain". I haven't seen anything like
    it in years, at least on gas cooktops. Perhaps there are electric ones that
    do have this thermostatic control.

    --
    ( #wff_ng_7# at #verizon# period #net# )

  7. "Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Bob said:

    Often one will see recipes that say "Cook on medium heat" or "Cook at a
    low
    setting" ... in the last few days I've seen mention on a couple of TV
    cooking shows that lead me to believe that the following may hold:

    Medium corresponds to 350 degrees F
    Medium-High corresponds to 375 degrees F

    I have no idea if that's generally accepted or not. So, what's the
    consensus here (right, like we're going to get a consensus!!) for:

    High
    Medium-High
    Medium
    Medium-Low
    Low
    Simmer

    Except for "simmer" (doesn't belong) those settings apply to oven
    temperatures, not cooktop temperatures. Cooktop settings do not
    correspond to particular temperatures, and with gas the flame burns at
    the same temperature regardless how low or high... with cooktops only
    the BTU setting is adjustable... which is why cook top burners do not
    have thermostats, with cooktops the cook needs to interpolate, which is
    one of the reasons gas is better, it's far easier to interpolate than
    electric. Ovens do employ a thermostat, and they cycle full on or full
    off, the oven BTU setting is not user adjustable.

    Sheldon

    I'm sorry, I should have been more explicit ... the original posting was
    meant for the planet Earth. Not sure where you reside but I do appreciate
    your efforts in responding ... the translation from your original tongue
    to English must have been a major effort.

    Bob, here is my compilation of replies to my similar question and what I
    decided upon from the replies that were focused on both cooking temperatures
    stove top and electric skillet.

    low 200-250 (for simmering)

    Medium low 250-300

    Medium 300-350 (for frying)

    Medium high 350-400 (for frying)

    high 400-450

    I hope this answers your query.

    Dee Dee

  8. wff_ng_7 said:

    Another poster mentioned an electric pan with a thermostatic control. That
    would make temperature settings actually make sense. I know years ago (mid
    1960s) they used to make cooktops (both gas and electric models) with one
    thermostatically controlled burner. My parents had a Caloric gas stove with
    one, and it was called "Burner-with-a-Brain". I haven't seen anything like

    My sister has one of the gas stoves with a thermostatically controlled
    burner, but I haven't seen that feature in years, either.

    Quoted message said:

    it in years, at least on gas cooktops. Perhaps there are electric ones that
    do have this thermostatic control.

    I have not seen it on conventional electrics, but it seems to
    be a common feature on induction cooktops, at least the one and
    two burner models.

    Bill Ranck
    Blacksburg, Va.

  9. "Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Bob, here is my compilation of replies to my similar question and what I
    decided upon from the replies that were focused on both cooking
    temperatures stove top and electric skillet.

    low 200-250 (for simmering)

    Medium low 250-300

    Medium 300-350 (for frying)

    Medium high 350-400 (for frying)

    high 400-450

    I hope this answers your query.

    Dee Dee

    Thanks, Dee Dee, I think we're done ...

  10. "Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Bob, here is my compilation of replies to my similar question and what I
    decided upon from the replies that were focused on both cooking
    temperatures stove top and electric skillet.

    low 200-250 (for simmering)

    Medium low 250-300

    Medium 300-350 (for frying)

    Medium high 350-400 (for frying)

    high 400-450

    I hope this answers your query.

    Dee Dee

    Thanks, Dee Dee, I think we're done ...


    Bien que Done? or Fini Done?
    Thanks for the unspoken thanks, as well.
    Dee Dee

  11. Bob Terwilliger said:


    Now let's put this in the context of an electric pan,

    How about you shove your faggoty 'lectric pan up your dumb ass... so
    we'll know when it's time to add the Crisco.

    where the temperature

    Quoted message said:

    given on the dial *does* correspond to a cooktop setting. "Simmer" would be
    right around 212F.

    What a moroon! Right on par with the rest of the low IQ Bobs.

    They use Bob because they can't spell Robert. <G>

    Ahahahsahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .

  12. Bob said:


    I'm sorry, I should have been more explicit ... the original posting was
    meant for the planet Earth. Not sure where you reside but I do appreciate
    your efforts in responding ... the translation from your original tongue to
    English must have been a major effort.

    Pearls before swine. Your inability to understand the difference
    between heat energy and temperature is not his fault. -aem

  13. aem said:
    Bob said:


    I'm sorry, I should have been more explicit ... the original posting
    was meant for the planet Earth. Not sure where you reside but I do
    appreciate your efforts in responding ... the translation from your
    original tongue to English must have been a major effort.

    Pearls before swine. Your inability to understand the difference
    between heat energy and temperature is not his fault. -aem

    Hear hear! Oven temps have no correlation to stovetop temps, be they
    electric or gas burners. I've never seen a recipe that required me to cook
    something on the stovetop at 350F (or whatever). Simmer, boil, etc. are
    visual things, not a temperature setting.

    Jill

  14. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    aem wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Pearls before swine. Your inability to understand the difference
    between heat energy and temperature is not his fault. -aem

    Hear hear! Oven temps have no correlation to stovetop temps, be they
    electric or gas burners. I've never seen a recipe that required me to
    cook
    something on the stovetop at 350F (or whatever). Simmer, boil, etc. are
    visual things, not a temperature setting.

    No offense meant to the original poster, I almost said those are
    oven questions, not cooktop questions, aside from simmer. It
    confused me so I waited to see what other people said. I thought
    Sheldon nailed it, he said what I was thinking.

    nancy

  15. Quoted message said:

    My sister has one of the gas stoves with a thermostatically controlled
    burner, but I haven't seen that feature in years, either.

    Maybe it wasn't the greatest idea? ;-)

    Probably several manufacturers were using that same system, as I see the
    exact same term "Burner-with-a-Brain" on a Sears Kenmore (definitely not
    made by Caloric) gas stove in a 1965 Sears catalog I have.

    Though the thermostatic burner never really caught on, that Caloric stove my
    parents had came with another feature that has since become de rigueur in
    high end gas stoves and outdoor grills. That is, an infrared gas broiler. I
    was quite amazed by it as a kid. It basically consisted of a shallow box
    covered by a screen through which gas passed. The gas burned on the surface
    of the screen and heated it red hot. The broiler was very "directional", in
    that a burger that was half out of the path of the infrared rays would get
    broiled on one side and not the other. Back then Caloric used the term
    "Ultra Ray" when marketing this broiler. The Caloric broiler design
    eventually showed up in Amana stoves as Raytheon, the owner of Amana also
    acquired Caloric. At some point Maytag acquired both and I think this
    broiler design ended up in Maytag stoves too. But on recent checks at
    appliance stores, it seems to be gone now from Maytag's (and now
    Whirlpool's) various product lines, but it does live on in other high end
    products as I've mentioned.

    --
    ( #wff_ng_7# at #verizon# period #net# )

  16. Sheldon said:
    Bob Terwilliger said:


    Now let's put this in the context of an electric pan,

    How about you shove your faggoty 'lectric pan up your dumb ass... so
    we'll know when it's time to add the Crisco.

    Sheldon means he's sorry he doubted you.

    Quoted message said:

    where the temperature

    Quoted message said:

    given on the dial *does* correspond to a cooktop setting. "Simmer" would be
    right around 212F.

    What a moroon! Right on par with the rest of the low IQ Bobs.

    They use Bob because they can't spell Robert. <G>

    Ahahahsahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .

    Sheldon means he's sorry he was wrong.

    --Blair

  17. jmcquown said:
    aem said:
    Bob said:


    I'm sorry, I should have been more explicit ... the original posting
    was meant for the planet Earth. Not sure where you reside but I do
    appreciate your efforts in responding ... the translation from your
    original tongue to English must have been a major effort.

    Pearls before swine. Your inability to understand the difference
    between heat energy and temperature is not his fault. -aem

    Hear hear! Oven temps have no correlation to stovetop temps, be they
    electric or gas burners. I've never seen a recipe that required me to cook
    something on the stovetop at 350F (or whatever). Simmer, boil, etc. are
    visual things, not a temperature setting.

    Of course, no need to know the physics, anyone who actually cooks knows
    from mere experience that you can't use the same stove top dial setting
    for simmering say one quart of water as 4 quarts of water, Simmer
    markings mean nothing, if anything it indicates the smallest burner.
    'Lectric element stovetop adjusters will if marked at all have numbers,
    say 1 to 10 with ten being the hottest. But it's all relative, not
    definite... many simply indicate relative temperature by an ever
    widening darkened icon around the dial... I've never yet seen stove top
    controls marked with actual temperatures. Stupid 'lectric frypans are
    often marked with temperatures but they are absolutely totally
    meaningless, those temperatures are there for the imbeciles who can't
    cook (is why they own a 'lectric fry pan to begin with) as it depends
    what's cooking... if the pan contains water I don't care how high the
    temperature is set the pan temperature will not go above 212ºF. If
    that same pan only contains a couple three spoonfuls of oil there won't
    be enough mass for the pan to sense the temperature. You'd need to use
    the pan as a deep fryer, and even then you'd need to check with a
    thermometer and likely the temperature settings will be way off... they
    are only *relative*, controled by a rheostat, I doubt any of those pans
    actually contain a thermostat... I once owned a Wearever 'lectric wok,
    it had no thermostat... just turned it up to the 'ten' mark, and still
    didn't stay hot enough to stir fry even a handful of radish slices...
    had no power. Real cooks cook on stovetops by interpolating BTUs, not
    temperature... even if they don't realize it that is what they are
    doing... real cooks know where to set the dial the same way they know
    where to set bra straps.

    Sheldon

  18. Sheldon said:
    Quoted message said:

    Now let's put this in the context of an electric pan,

    How about you shove your faggoty 'lectric pan up your dumb ass... so
    we'll know when it's time to add the Crisco.

    Just about the reaction I expected. Whenever you're wrong you resort to
    name-calling. I think you learned that from your mother. She taught you a
    few things you carry with you, such as how to please a man and the value of
    a quarter -- and how those two things are connected.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    where the temperature given on the dial *does* correspond to a cooktop
    setting. "Simmer" would be right around 212F.

    What a moroon! Right on par with the rest of the low IQ Bobs.

    Can't even spell "moron" correctly. What an idiot.

    I'll throw out the same challenge to you that I threw out to ensenadajim: If
    you want to compare certified IQ's, I'll bet ten thousand dollars that mine
    is higher than yours. Put up or shut up, boy.

    Bob

  19. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <snip> a lot of stuff ...

    Okay, we're getting closer and the original posting WAS a bit deficient
    (wanted to know the oil temperature in a pan put on a burner set at medium
    (et.al.) heat) , but, now, I'm really looking at how to cook bacon and ergs.

  20. Bob said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <snip> a lot of stuff ...

    Okay, we're getting closer and the original posting WAS a bit
    deficient (wanted to know the oil temperature in a pan put on a
    burner set at medium (et.al.) heat) , but, now, I'm really looking at
    how to cook bacon and ergs.

    Oh hell, that's easy 🙂 See the dial on for that stovetop burner? Set it
    in the middle. If you set it to the highest temp you'll quickly burn the
    bacon and be unhappy with the result. The key is not to be impatient. Some
    good things take time 🙂

    Cook the bacon first (I prefer mine crispy; this may take 5-10 minutes
    depending on your cooktop), turning it occasionally. When done, remove the
    bacon to paper towels to drain and drain off all but about 2 Tbs. of the
    grease. Eggs: depends on how you want your eggs. Same temp (moderate
    heat) as the bacon. For two eggs: over-easy, over-medium or hard, gently
    break the eggs into the hot grease and sprinkle with salt & pepper. Watch
    the whites; they will congeal first. For over easy, you want the yolk to be
    still jiggly but slightly firm (hope that makes sense). Over-medium, the
    yolk shouldn't be quite so liquidy. Over-hard, well, you get the picture (I
    hope). Slide them out onto a plate and eat them with the bacon and anything
    else you want 🙂

    Jill

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