COOKING SOFTWARE

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Top Spin said:

Mite said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Top Spin said:

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:11:45 GMT, "sshay" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>"MOMPEAGRAM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>news:1106600036.cc3bab1bceac10e53803dd56b198c825@teranews...
>>
>> "Top Spin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> news:[email hidden]...
>> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:02:50 -0500, "MOMPEAGRAM"
>> > <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I have used a number of cooking software and the new Big Oven
>> >>http://www.bigoven.com/
>> >>
>> >>It is well worth the money and the support is awesome!
>> >
>> > I just downloaded the demo, but it would not install. I have left a
>> > message with tech support.
>> >
>> > But, from what I saw on the web site, Big Oven does not have support
>> > for volume-to-weight conversions. Is that true?
>> >
>> I believe you're correct. Metric to imperial, but not to weight.
>>
>> I just got Cook'n and I like better than MasterCook, maybe you might
>> want
>to look at it: http://www.dvo.com/

Are you saying that Cook'n can do volume to weight conversions?

That is, if I have a recipe that calls for 3 1/2 cups of flour, can it
convert that to 420 grams -- assuming that I have previously told it
that the flour I use is 30 grams to the 1/4 cup?

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Hitachi HB-A101 bread machine, 1 pound
Email: Usenet-20031220 at spamex.com
(01/10/05)

Shop'NCook can do that ( http://www.shopncook.com ).
It already knows the conversion factors between weight and volume units
for hundreds of ingredients. You can for example have the ingredients in
volume units in the recipe and add them to the shopping list in weight
units.

Mite
http://www.shopncook.com

Personally, I found the ShopNCook interface awkward and
counter-intuitive.

Could you tell me specifically which part you didn't like?

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I also didn't like that it installed the Java VM on
my computer. It never warned me that that would be a requirement.

I will mention it on the home page.

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I says that it will do volume to weight conversions, but I couldn't
get it to work.

In the recipe editor, ingredient pane, the quantity is automatically
converted when you choose another unit in the unit pull-down menu (see
also the help).

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It also seemed that it was mainly for shopping lists
and not for cooking.

Shop'NCook started its life as a pure shopping list software and you can
still somewhat feel it. It has now however a pretty good recipe
management capability and I plan to expand it further in future releases.

Mite (author of Shop'NCook)
http://www.shopncook.com

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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:19:01 GMT, [email hidden] (Phred)

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In article <[email hidden]>, Top Spin

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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:21:59 GMT, "[email hidden]" <> wrote:

>We're using Living Cookbook and love it.

I downloaded the demo yesterday. Very nice interface. Far superior to
MasterCook.

What limitations apply to the demo? It says "fully functional" at
<http://www.livingcookbook.com/features/free-software-downloads.htm>
but I assume there is some sort of "gotcha" such as can't save more
than five recipes, or only works for 30 days? (As a habitual
procrastinator, I have no use for time limitations in trialware. 8-)

So, you want a free version of the commercial product with no
restrictions and unlimited use, right? If they did that, I bet an

Go frig yourself! Where did I say that? As I implied, I'm perfectly
happy to try a limited version of software as long as I know what the
limitations are *before* I download about 20 MB of trialware. If
it's time limited they can get nicked, "fully functional" or not.

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admitted procrastinator, like you, would never get around to sending
in the registration fee. No?

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Hello... It's a "trial" version. It's not a way for you to get
something for nothing. Look up trial in the dictionary.

Go and learn to read before you [censored] on yourself again.

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But, it does not support volume-to-weight unit conversions. I left a

I'm curious as to why you want this?

As I already explained, weight measurements are often much more
accurate than volume units and they scale far more easily. But most
recipes come with volume units only. So, a built-in conversion would
be a helpful utility. That is what comnputers are for.

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Seems to me it would be rather
difficult to implement given the varying specific gravities across dry
products (and even within them -- e.g. types of sugar).

Yes, it is a bit difficult to implement. MasterCook has done it (sort
of). But that has nothing whatsoever to do with why it is useful.

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suggestion on the message board and got a terse reply. It doesn't look
like this is somethng they will look at seriously.

Cheers, Phred.

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Mite said:

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> That is, if I have a recipe that calls for 3 1/2 cups of flour, can it
> convert that to 420 grams -- assuming that I have previously told it
> that the flour I use is 30 grams to the 1/4 cup?
>
> --
> Hitachi HB-A101 bread machine, 1 pound
> Email: Usenet-20031220 at spamex.com
> (01/10/05)

Shop'NCook can do that ( http://www.shopncook.com ).
It already knows the conversion factors between weight and volume units
for hundreds of ingredients. You can for example have the ingredients in
volume units in the recipe and add them to the shopping list in weight
units.

Mite
http://www.shopncook.com

Personally, I found the ShopNCook interface awkward and
counter-intuitive.

Could you tell me specifically which part you didn't like?

I'd have to try it again to be specific. I have tried 5-6 different
programs over the past several days and I can't recall exactly what it
was about ShopNCook.

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I also didn't like that it installed the Java VM on
my computer. It never warned me that that would be a requirement.

I will mention it on the home page.

Quoted message said:

I says that it will do volume to weight conversions, but I couldn't
get it to work.

In the recipe editor, ingredient pane, the quantity is automatically
converted when you choose another unit in the unit pull-down menu (see
also the help).

Quoted message said:

It also seemed that it was mainly for shopping lists
and not for cooking.

Shop'NCook started its life as a pure shopping list software and you can
still somewhat feel it. It has now however a pretty good recipe
management capability and I plan to expand it further in future releases.

I didn't realize that you were the developer. I don't have time right
now to reinstall the software and play with it, but if you are serious
about making changes to the software, I will when I get some free
time.

We can have the discussion offline so as not to clog up this
newsgroup. Is that email address real?

If you are interested, there is a fairly detailed explanation of what
I think is needed in the volume to weight conversion area in the
message board for BigOven.

http://www.bigoven.com/bbs/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=3&MessageID=730

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Mite (author of Shop'NCook)
http://www.shopncook.com

--
Hitachi HB-A101 bread machine, 1 pound
Email: Usenet-20031220 at spamex.com
(01/10/05)

In article <[email hidden]>,

Top Spin said:

I didn't realize that you were the developer. I don't have time right
now to reinstall the software and play with it, but if you are serious
about making changes to the software, I will when I get some free
time.

Yes, I would like very much to have your comments. Many features of
Shop'NCook come actually from user suggestions.

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We can have the discussion offline so as not to clog up this
newsgroup. Is that email address real?

The e-mail address is real, but I don't check it regularly. I will send
you an e-mail from my usual e-mail address (assuming yours is real :-) ).

Mite
http://www.shopncook.com

Mite said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Top Spin said:

I didn't realize that you were the developer. I don't have time right
now to reinstall the software and play with it, but if you are serious
about making changes to the software, I will when I get some free
time.

Yes, I would like very much to have your comments. Many features of
Shop'NCook come actually from user suggestions.

Quoted message said:

We can have the discussion offline so as not to clog up this
newsgroup. Is that email address real?

The e-mail address is real, but I don't check it regularly. I will send
you an e-mail from my usual e-mail address (assuming yours is real :-) ).

Mite
http://www.shopncook.com

Yes, the email below ([email hidden]) is real.

--
Hitachi HB-A101 bread machine, 1 pound
Email: Usenet-20031220 at spamex.com
(01/10/05)

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Phred) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Mite <[email hidden]> wrote:
[snip]

Quoted message said:

Shop'NCook started its life as a pure shopping list software and you can
still somewhat feel it. It has now however a pretty good recipe
management capability and I plan to expand it further in future releases.

Mite (author of Shop'NCook)
http://www.shopncook.com

G'day Mite,

I notice on your Shop'NCook home page (which seems to be redirected(*)
from the URL you quote in your sig, so I hope it's the legit one) you
say: "Supported platforms: Windows 98/NT4/2000"

Have you tried it on Windows XP SP2? I guess it probably does, given
what you say, but it would be nice to have it confirmed or otherwise
from the horse's mouth. :-) (Or maybe someone else here in r.f.c
has tried it under XP SP2 and can comment?)

(*) http://www.rufenacht.com/shopncook/

Cheers, Phred.

Phred,

Shop'NCook is supported on Windows 98/NT4/2000 and Mac OS X.

XP is not listed because we haven't yet tested it on it. I expect it to
work there too since Java ports well to Windows XP, but there could be
of course some unexpected troubles. Sorry I cannot give you a more
definite answer.

BTW, http://www.rufenacht.com/shopncook/ is the correct page.

Mite
http://www.shopncook.com

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mite said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Phred) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Mite <[email hidden]> wrote:
[snip]

Quoted message said:

Shop'NCook started its life as a pure shopping list software and you can
still somewhat feel it. It has now however a pretty good recipe
management capability and I plan to expand it further in future releases.

Mite (author of Shop'NCook)
http://www.shopncook.com

I notice on your Shop'NCook home page (which seems to be redirected(*)
from the URL you quote in your sig, so I hope it's the legit one) you
say: "Supported platforms: Windows 98/NT4/2000"

Have you tried it on Windows XP SP2? I guess it probably does, given
what you say, but it would be nice to have it confirmed or otherwise
from the horse's mouth. :-) (Or maybe someone else here in r.f.c
has tried it under XP SP2 and can comment?)

(*) http://www.rufenacht.com/shopncook/

Shop'NCook is supported on Windows 98/NT4/2000 and Mac OS X.

XP is not listed because we haven't yet tested it on it. I expect it to
work there too since Java ports well to Windows XP, but there could be
of course some unexpected troubles. Sorry I cannot give you a more
definite answer.

BTW, http://www.rufenacht.com/shopncook/ is the correct page.

Fair enough. Thanks for your response. Maybe someone here who has
tried it on XP will give us the benefit of their experience sometime.
As said before, my guess is that it will work okay -- given that it
works on both Windows 98 (and ME?) and NT4/2K.

Cheers, Phred.

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