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  1. I've been wanting to experiment a bit with different cooking oils. I used
    some walnut oil for thanksgiving. It didn't smell like walnuts or add a
    walnut taste, which is kind of what I was expecting. I bought some peanut
    oil today but haven't used it yet. I don't like olives and have been
    avoiding olive oil for that reason -- does it olive oil carry the olive
    taste?

    What are some good oils to use and why? Which are the bad ones? What does
    processing have to do with the quality and healthfulness of the different
    kinds of oils and what should I look for?

    Mike

  2. Mike,
    I have used Peanut oil, Coconut oil, Olive oil, walnut oil and sesame oil
    none of them except the sesame oil add much taste if you are cooking with
    them. The sesame oil has a deep nutty taste and is good for stir fries,
    peanut oil is excellent for deep frying. If you are eating them on salad you
    might notice some flavoring. If you live near to a Cost Plus World Market or
    other gourmet kitchen store, you can sometimes find miniature bottles of
    different types of oils that are fun to experiment with they don't cost much
    and you can get an idea of what they taste like.

    "em" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been wanting to experiment a bit with different cooking oils. I used
    some walnut oil for thanksgiving. It didn't smell like walnuts or add a
    walnut taste, which is kind of what I was expecting. I bought some peanut
    oil today but haven't used it yet. I don't like olives and have been
    avoiding olive oil for that reason -- does it olive oil carry the olive
    taste?

    What are some good oils to use and why? Which are the bad ones? What does
    processing have to do with the quality and healthfulness of the different
    kinds of oils and what should I look for?

    Mike

  3. em said:

    I've been wanting to experiment a bit with different cooking oils. I used
    some walnut oil for thanksgiving. It didn't smell like walnuts or add a
    walnut taste, which is kind of what I was expecting. I bought some peanut
    oil today but haven't used it yet. I don't like olives and have been
    avoiding olive oil for that reason -- does it olive oil carry the olive
    taste?

    What are some good oils to use and why? Which are the bad ones? What does
    processing have to do with the quality and healthfulness of the different
    kinds of oils and what should I look for?

    Mike

    Hi, Mike --

    I use olive oil for just about everything. It's never tasted like
    olives to me.

    A lot of people can taste the difference between the oils, but I sure
    can't. I can't taste any difference -- to me, oil is oil. I use an
    appropriate one, or one that's recommended in a recipe, just in case
    someone else who is eating it can tell.

    I used to spend a lot of money on different oils, but I don't anymore.
    I never noticed the "nutty" or "woodsy" or "fruity" taste they were
    supposed to have. Or maybe I just don't know what these words mean as
    culinary terms?

    Good luck!

    --
    BlueBrooke
    254/225/135

  4. Once butter has melted, it is like a heavy oil. That is what I use.

    "em" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been wanting to experiment a bit with different cooking oils. I used
    some walnut oil for thanksgiving. It didn't smell like walnuts or add a
    walnut taste, which is kind of what I was expecting. I bought some peanut
    oil today but haven't used it yet. I don't like olives and have been
    avoiding olive oil for that reason -- does it olive oil carry the olive
    taste?

    What are some good oils to use and why? Which are the bad ones? What does
    processing have to do with the quality and healthfulness of the different
    kinds of oils and what should I look for?

    Mike

  5. em said:

    I've been wanting to experiment a bit with different cooking oils. I
    used some walnut oil for thanksgiving. It didn't smell like walnuts
    or add a walnut taste, which is kind of what I was expecting. I
    bought some peanut oil today but haven't used it yet. I don't like
    olives and have been avoiding olive oil for that reason -- does it
    olive oil carry the olive taste?

    What are some good oils to use and why? Which are the bad ones? What
    does processing have to do with the quality and healthfulness of the
    different kinds of oils and what should I look for?

    Normally, I wouldn't have the time to answer in as much detail as I'd
    like, but I just wrote a long email to a friend who's mother died of
    heart disease who just discovered he has high bp and needs dietary
    advice as he has decided to switch from his fast food and beer diet.

    So I'll quote my thoughts on fat in general, and a later bit about
    protein and fat dietary choicess from that email here for you. The oil
    question gets answered in the midst of this somewhere:

    Quoted message said:

    I've read a *lot* about fat lately also. There are most definitely
    fats that are better and worse, but there's lots of disagreement on
    which ones. Everyone knows trans fats are bad. Everyone knows
    monounsaturated fats are good. The arguments come down to saturated
    vs. polyunsaturated. We had a huge change to polyunsaturated fats in
    this country, with an emphasis on margarine and corn oil and such...
    but most polyunsaturated vegetable oils are high in omega6s and
    therefore skewed the omega3:omega6 ratio to an unhealthy extent.
    Plus, lots of the vegetable oils were hydrigenated before we knew how
    bad trans fats are. And then it turns out the *best* omega6 fats
    are CLA and GLA, which are rare in vegetable oils and more common in
    products from pasture-raised animals. We've discovered that some
    saturated fats, like the medium chain fatty acids in coconut oil, are
    good. It turns out the whole saturated vs. polyunsaturated argument
    is bogus - it's more complex than that. I'm not going into all the
    science in details, just making recommendations based on what's known
    today as I've been studying this stuff.

    Quoted message said:

    PROTEIN AND FAT

    You need to get sufficient protein. I eat relatively high protein
    because I get most of my blood glucose from protein since I eat so
    little carb. But your body also needs it for many, many functions
    including supporting lean body mass.

    I consider 4oz meat or 1 cup of yogurt or cottage cheese to be a
    serving of protein and I eat protein at every meal (even my "cereal"
    is high-protein cause of the protein powder). To me, this is a
    mimimum amount of protein I need daily - 3 servings of protein. I
    ate even more immediatly after the surgeries as protein is needed to
    build tissue and hence speeds healing.

    Protein foods usually come with fat, so the choices for the best
    protein foods tends to be based on the best fats. Fish and nuts are
    the best sources of protein.

    Fish has the form of omega3 acid that we use directly, and some of us
    don't convert from the plant sources so well. I've never cared much
    for fish, but have been trying to add it in ways I don't actually
    despise. Albacore tuna packed in water is good (packed in oil will
    mean the good fats will dissolve and pour off when you drain it). If
    you don't want the calories of mayo, you can mix it with ranch
    dressing and it's pretty good. I've discovered tilapia is a very
    mild fish I can eat occasionally spiced up with garlic and such and
    it's not too bad. When I want to splurge, I buy scallops, but
    they're too expensive to eat regularly. Add whatever you like, or
    whatever you can tolerate if you don't actually like fish much. Get
    it in several times a week, the more often, the better. Oily fishes
    are best, but most are pretty strong-tasting: salmon, sardines, tuna,
    mackarel. Shellfish is good also as the only really good source of
    vitamin B12.

    While plant omega3s don't always convert to the type we use, there's
    a lot of evidence that they're good for us in and of themselves.
    This is where nuts and seeds come in. Note that peanuts don't really
    count, they're a legume, not a nut. We're talking walnuts, almonds,
    macadamia nuts, pistachios, hazelnuts, brazil nuts, sunflower seeds,
    sesame seeds, whatever you like. This time of year, the whole nuts
    are always available and I've always loved having a bowl on the table
    through the holidays. All year, you can buy them already cracked,
    fresh or roasted, salted or not. It's harder to find, but you can
    also buy nut butters, almond butter and cashew butter and tahini
    (sesame seed butter) are most easy to find. And I've already
    mentioned the notion of meals, almond meal and flax meal being good
    things to eat. You can also buy lots of good nut oils, which are
    really tasty (but generally have to be refrigerated, especially flax
    oil and walnut oil). Lots of ways to add nuts to your diet.

    As far as a plant source of omega3s, flax is king. Figuring out some
    way to get flax into your diet is very worthwhile. However, you have
    to add flax gradually as it's almost entirely fiber and fat, hence
    can have a major laxative effect.

    Meat is not the enemy, unless it crowds out fish and nuts in your
    diet. But again, there's better and worse choices. Meat from
    animals raised on pasture contains a lot more CLA, GLA, omega3s and
    bioactive form of vitamins A and D than stuff raised in feedlots. If
    you take the time to search out sources of pasture-raised meat, the
    fat is a good thing and can be eaten freely as very wholesome food.
    If you eat more typical sources of meat, stick to the leanest cuts of
    red meats and remove the skin from poultry as that fat is much less
    healthy stuff.

    I have similar advice for eggs, best to spend the bucks for
    free-range omega3 eggs. Eggs are one of the best and cheapest
    protein sources around. Dietary cholesterol intake has almost no
    correlaiton with serum cholesterol levels, so you can eat eggs
    liberally - but get the good ones.

    As far as processed meats go, it's best to buy stuff without nitrates
    and nitrites. My grocery carries a brand of uncured bacon as well as
    Hormel's line of natural lunch meats. Not the best possible meat
    choices, but when you need processed stuff, it's a lot better than
    most of what's out there.

    I also use protein powder. I think the soy and whey powders taste
    gross, but if you like them, go for it. They make fast meals when
    you're in a hurry. I use an unflavored, unsweetened milk isolate
    protein powder as it's cheap and very versatile and taste better to
    me than soy or whey products.

    As for dairy, I personally eat a lot of yogurt and cottage cheese and
    some hard cheese and butter. I use half-and-half in my coffee and
    some cream and creme fraiche in various recipes. If you're buying
    products from pasture-raised animals, all the stuff I said about meat
    applies and the fat is a good and healthy thing. If you're buying
    from more ordinary sources, you're better off with low-fat or skim
    products.

    There's additional benefits to buying raw cheese if you can manage
    it. Raw cheese, yogurt, kefir, vinegar, saurkraut, pickles, soy
    sauce, tofu... basically all fermented foods are very good for a host
    of reasons, the bacteria do good things for you.

    Coconut oil is a strange oil. It's a saturated fat, solid at room
    temperature, but turns out to be pretty healthy. The health benefits
    seem to be related to the length of the chains the fatty acids are
    made of. I have no explanation biochemically for why medium length
    trigylcerides are healthier than long chain ones and find it frankly
    counterintuitive given what I know about fatty acid metabolism from
    my biochemistry background, but a lot of research shows it's so even
    though I can't explain it. Coconut oil is a bit tricky to add to
    your diet. Virgin coconut oil has a coconut flavor to it so works for
    anything you want to taste that way; expeller-pressed coconut oil has
    a more neutral flavor and I prefer it myself as I don't really want
    everything to taste coconut-flavored. You can cook eggs or buckwheat
    pancakes in it, replacing butter. I make almond and flax muffins
    with it (recipes on my page). I also make a "coconut bark" which is
    basically a chocolate candy (again, recipe is on my page).

    If you like avocados, they're a great type of fat. I personally like
    eating them right out of the skin, but also make guacamole of various
    types. They're very caloric, so when I'm feeling lazy, I can call an
    avocado a meal (albeit it's short on protein for a meal).

    If you need more fat in your diet for the calories (especially if
    eating lean meat and low-fat dairy), best choices for additions
    beyond the above are olive oil, avocado oil and rice bran oil. All
    of these are good for salad dressing and or stirfrying in. It's
    important to stick to oils that have not been hydrogenated (and thus
    contain trans fats). You want all your oils to be labeled either
    "virgin" or "expeller-pressed" or something similar that makes it
    very clear the stuff hasn't been highly heated during processing or
    otherwise hydrogenated. I understand most canola oil in the US is
    hydrogenated to improve shelf life, which is a damned shame as it'd
    be a wonderful oil otherwise. I've not yet been able to find virgin
    canola oil.

    The ABSOLUTE baddy in fats that you should avoid are trans fats.
    That a product says 0 trans fats is irrelevant. Labels measure trans
    fats in grams, and it's milligrams levels that are dangerous, so 0 g
    of trans fats isn't good enough. This stuff is poison! Any product
    containing "hydrogenated" or "partially hydrogenated" ANYTHING is
    bad, don't eat it at all.

    High heat makes "homemade" trans fats, so frying should be fast
    stirfrying to reduce the damage to the fats. Or use more saturated
    fat for frying. Coconut oil works. I often use homemade broths from
    which I do not skim the fat (because it's from pasture-raised animals
    and thus good stuff).

    --
    http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

  6. I have an excellent recipe for tilapia with the added benefit of coconut
    oil. Since coconut milk comes in 15 oz cans I use a whole can and double or
    triple the other ingredients. Makes enough for two with leftovers for
    later. Keeps well with just gentle reheating required.

    Thai-Style Tilapia

    1/2 cup coconut milk
    6 whole almonds
    2 tablespoons chopped white onion
    1 teaspoon ground ginger
    1/2 teaspoon ground turmeric
    1 teaspoon chopped fresh lemon grass
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    4 (4 ounce) fillets tilapia
    salt and pepper to taste
    1/2 teaspoon red pepper flakes, or to taste

    In a food processor or blender, combine the coconut milk, almonds, onion,
    ginger, turmeric, lemon grass, and 1/4 teaspoon of salt. Process until
    smooth. Heat a large non-stick skillet over medium-high heat. Season the
    fish fillets with salt and pepper on both sides, then place them skin-side
    up in the skillet. Pour the pureed sauce over the fish. Use a spatula to
    coat the fish evenly with the sauce. Sprinkle with red pepper flakes. Reduce
    heat to medium, cover, and simmer for about 15 minutes, until the puree is
    thickened and fish flakes easily with a fork.

    Jackie Patti wrote:

  7. em said:


    I've been wanting to experiment a bit with different cooking oils. I used
    some walnut oil for thanksgiving. It didn't smell like walnuts or add a
    walnut taste, which is kind of what I was expecting. I bought some peanut
    oil today but haven't used it yet. I don't like olives and have been
    avoiding olive oil for that reason -- does it olive oil carry the olive
    taste?

    Olive flavor from olive oil depends on the grade. Extra virgin
    should have a distinct olive flavor. Virgin should have a slight
    olive flavor. Regular olive oil should not have a noticable olive
    flavor. Light olive oil has no olive flavor at all - My wife dislikes
    olives and she has no problem using light.

    Quoted message said:

    What are some good oils to use and why?

    Pork lard - good for deep frying. Chicken schmaltz - good
    for disolving into foods to make them richer. Rendered duck
    or goose oil - Solid in the fridge but liquid on the shelf and
    excellent for frying eggs and common in old style french
    preserving recipes.

    Butter - Low temperature frying because it burns. Ghee -
    the rendering process gives oil that doesn't burn so it's
    better for higher temps.

    Grape seed oil - The one with the highest smoke point so
    for use in the highest temp flash frying.

    Peanut oil - High smoke point among easy to find oils so
    good for deep frying - deep fried turkey uses it.

    Soy oil aka vegitable oil - Most common vegitable oil,
    medium temperature use so good for shallow frying like
    country fried chicken (which is unbreaded in my home).

    Canola oil - Low smoke point so good for baking or
    lower temp frying.

    Coconut oil - Soft at room temp so it does well for high
    temp frying. Some brands do have a slight cocnut flavor.

    Olive oil - Wonderful general purpose cooking oil.

    The brands of margarine that have zero transfats - A few
    people prefer it to butter for the flavor though it's a minority
    opinion. For some reason mushrooms sauteed in margarine
    have a better texture.

    Quoted message said:

    Which are the bad ones?

    Margarines with transfats.

    Types of oils you don't like.

    When you plan on feeding low fatters, the types higher in
    saturated fatty acids, but not a consideration when only low
    carbers are around.

    Venison tallow - Way too waxy for the modern tastes of
    anyone I've ever asked. When you scrape the fat off the
    inside of a deerskin during deer season, make candles out
    of the stuff or give it to the ghost of Daniel Boone.

    Quoted message said:

    What does
    processing have to do with the quality and healthfulness of the different
    kinds of oils and what should I look for?

    For olive oil less processed to more processed goes extra virgin,
    virgin, regular, light. I like the less proocessed better so I think
    the less processed is better quality but that isn't a unanimous
    opinion just a majority opinion.

    One aspect of health - Something bad happens to oil when it
    starts to smoke and that's part of why I listed by smoke point.

  8. FOB said:

    I have an excellent recipe for tilapia with the added benefit of coconut
    oil. Since coconut milk comes in 15 oz cans I use a whole can and double or
    triple the other ingredients. Makes enough for two with leftovers for
    later. Keeps well with just gentle reheating required.

    Thai-Style Tilapia

    1/2 cup coconut milk
    6 whole almonds
    2 tablespoons chopped white onion
    1 teaspoon ground ginger
    1/2 teaspoon ground turmeric
    1 teaspoon chopped fresh lemon grass
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    4 (4 ounce) fillets tilapia
    salt and pepper to taste
    1/2 teaspoon red pepper flakes, or to taste

    In a food processor or blender, combine the coconut milk, almonds, onion,
    ginger, turmeric, lemon grass, and 1/4 teaspoon of salt. Process until
    smooth. Heat a large non-stick skillet over medium-high heat. Season the
    fish fillets with salt and pepper on both sides, then place them skin-side
    up in the skillet. Pour the pureed sauce over the fish. Use a spatula to
    coat the fish evenly with the sauce. Sprinkle with red pepper flakes. Reduce
    heat to medium, cover, and simmer for about 15 minutes, until the puree is
    thickened and fish flakes easily with a fork.

    You read my mind!

    I recently posted elsewhere asking for recipes with turmeric as I don't
    know how to cook curries and only use turmeric in my bread-and-butter
    pickles.

    I bought curry powder, coconut milk and a pretty low-carb mango chutney
    to begin experimenting. I shall add lemon grass to my next shopping
    list and try this soon.

    Thanks!

    --
    http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

  9. Jackie Patti said:

    So I'll quote my thoughts on fat in general, and a later bit about
    protein and fat dietary choicess from that email here for you. The oil
    question gets answered in the midst of this somewhere:

    That's lots of great info. I just want to add: If you don't think
    pasture-raised meat, dairy, and eggs are being raised in your area, or
    don't know where to get them, try a search here
    <http://www.localharvest.org/>. I just attended a Local Foods
    conference yesterday, and learned that there are a lot more people
    raising quality food around here than I realized, and a larger market
    for it than I thought too. There's a good chance that some farmers in
    your area are growing this stuff already. (If not, you might want to
    start your own, because the demand is rising fast.)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The ABSOLUTE baddy in fats that you should avoid are trans fats.
    That a product says 0 trans fats is irrelevant. Labels measure trans
    fats in grams, and it's milligrams levels that are dangerous, so 0 g
    of trans fats isn't good enough. This stuff is poison! Any product
    containing "hydrogenated" or "partially hydrogenated" ANYTHING is
    bad, don't eat it at all.

    I'm a little confused about trans-fat labeling these days. I used to
    think they were required to say "hydrogenated" or "partially
    hydrogenated", because otherwise, why would they ever say it? But
    recently I was buying mayonnaise, and noticed that all the brands simply
    said "soybean oil." As much as I'd like to think they've all (even the
    generic brands) shifted to unhydrogenated oils already, that seems too
    good to be true; and if they weren't using trans-fats, I'd think they'd
    announce that proudly on the label like many other products do. So now
    I'm wondering, is it ever possible to know for sure whether something
    has trans-fats based on the label, or do I need to start making my own
    mayo?

    --
    Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

  10. Aaron Baugher said:
    Jackie Patti said:

    So I'll quote my thoughts on fat in general, and a later bit about
    protein and fat dietary choicess from that email here for you. The oil
    question gets answered in the midst of this somewhere:

    That's lots of great info. I just want to add: If you don't think
    pasture-raised meat, dairy, and eggs are being raised in your area, or
    don't know where to get them, try a search here
    <http://www.localharvest.org/>. I just attended a Local Foods
    conference yesterday, and learned that there are a lot more people
    raising quality food around here than I realized, and a larger market
    for it than I thought too. There's a good chance that some farmers in
    your area are growing this stuff already. (If not, you might want to
    start your own, because the demand is rising fast.)

    Local Harvest is also a good source for CSAs - Community Supported
    Agriculture. This is a deal where you sign up for the growing season
    and get a basket of fresh produce every week from the farmer.

    One of the strategies from that email I didn't quote was to buy a LOT of
    fresh produce every week and plan meals around trying to get through it
    before it goes bad; a CSA is a good way to accomplish that!

    There's also http://www.eatwild.com - that's where I discovered a farmer
    less than 2 miles away was raising pasture-raised beef on land he'd won
    environmental awards for management of. It's *damned* good beef!

    --
    http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

  11. BlueBrooke .@. said:

    A lot of people can taste the difference between the oils, but I sure
    can't. I can't taste any difference -- to me, oil is oil. I use an
    appropriate one, or one that's recommended in a recipe, just in case
    someone else who is eating it can tell.

    Quoted message said:

    I used to spend a lot of money on different oils, but I don't anymore.
    I never noticed the "nutty" or "woodsy" or "fruity" taste they were
    supposed to have. Or maybe I just don't know what these words mean as
    culinary terms?

    I'm the same way; I never pick up subtle differences in tastes. Oil
    just tastes like oil, and doing things like infusing it with herbs does
    nothing for me. I like nuts, and when I read through seed catalogs,
    there are supposedly "nutty" varieties of everything from lettuce to
    squash, but they just taste like lettuce and squash to me.

    --
    Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

  12. "Aaron Baugher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Jackie Patti <[email hidden]> writes:

    Quoted message said:

    <http://www.localharvest.org/>.

    Holy Cow! Pretty expensive. I'd be happy to buy this stuff if I could afford
    it. I probably eat two pounds of beef on most days.

    http://www.eatwild.com

    I found a place about 2 hours away from here. I guess there aren't a lot of
    farmers here in Los Angeles. I think I'll plan a trip out there to see what
    they have. Even if its expensive, I'll come home with something :-)

    I know of someone who used to buy a cow, raise it and then give it to a
    butcher for some sort of split of the meat. Then he'd deep freeze the meat
    and have enough for, I dunno, a long time I guess.

    I live in a small place with a little fridge. I've thought about putting a
    big freezer in the garage or something.

    There are a couple of local butcher shops in the area. I should pop in and
    ask them where they get their beef and so forth. You never know.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Any product
    containing "hydrogenated" or "partially hydrogenated" ANYTHING is
    bad, don't eat it at all.

    I'll definitely watch for that.

    Oh, thanks to all for the info on the oils, etc, too. I've got some walnut
    oil and peanut oil up in the cabinet and butter in the fridge. Over time,
    I'll try cooking with olive oil, lard, sesame oil (which I'm looking forward
    to trying), etc.

    A lot of my food burns, by the way. I prefer rare meat, actually. The
    problem is I put stuff on the stove, go back to the computer for a few
    minutes, and... the food burns. Is that bad? Does the oil burn too? I hadn't
    given that much thought.

    Quoted message said:

    do I need to start making my own
    mayo?

    1 egg, 1c oil and 1t lemon juice, mix in a food processor... is that how to
    do it? Doesn't sound too hard. Is a food processor and a blender pretty much
    the same thing? I have a blender. I had to google food processor to see what
    it is.

    Mike

  13. Here's a really easy mayo recipe that was posted here a while back, you can
    vary the type of oil, vinegar (or lemon juice) and seasonings to taste.

    Boatmotor Mayonnaise

    1 egg - as fresh as possible
    ½ teaspoon of salt
    ½ teaspoon of pepper
    ½ teaspoon of mustard powder or
    ½ teaspoon prepared Dijon or deli mustard
    2 teaspoons of wine/cider vinegar
    2/3 of a cup of olive oil
    2/3 of a cup of sunflower oil (or any combo thereof)
    I also add several cloves of roasted garlic

    Place all ingredients into jar. Use stick blender on high until the mixture
    thickens, about 30 seconds. Place lid on jar and store in the fridge. Will
    keep for about ten days. Makes about 1 ¼ cups.

    If you don't have a stick blender you can get them for about $20 and they
    are wonderfully handy.

    em wrote:
    || do I need to start making my own
    || mayo?
    |
    | 1 egg, 1c oil and 1t lemon juice, mix in a food processor... is that
    | how to do it? Doesn't sound too hard. Is a food processor and a
    | blender pretty much the same thing? I have a blender. I had to google
    | food processor to see what it is.
    |
    | Mike

  14. "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Here's a really easy mayo recipe that was posted here a while back, you
    can
    vary the type of oil, vinegar (or lemon juice) and seasonings to taste.

    Are those little lemon shaped lemon juices the same as the stuff you buy in
    a bottle? I don't think I'd use a whole bottle of lemon concentrate in ten
    years.

  15. Yes, it's just a handy dispenser.

    em wrote:
    | "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    || Here's a really easy mayo recipe that was posted here a while back,
    || you can
    || vary the type of oil, vinegar (or lemon juice) and seasonings to
    || taste.
    |
    | Are those little lemon shaped lemon juices the same as the stuff you
    | buy in a bottle? I don't think I'd use a whole bottle of lemon
    | concentrate in ten years.

  16. em said:

    I live in a small place with a little fridge. I've thought about putting
    a big freezer in the garage or something.

    There's only two of us here, but I find having a freezer indispensable.

    Quoted message said:

    A lot of my food burns, by the way. I prefer rare meat, actually. The
    problem is I put stuff on the stove, go back to the computer for a few
    minutes, and... the food burns. Is that bad? Does the oil burn too? I
    hadn't given that much thought.

    Oil is somewhat damaged when it reaches it's smoke point.

    IMO, the main problem is just that dinner is burnt. 😉

    I'm easily distracted like that too. I watch a DVD or play an audiobook
    when working in the kitchen. If there's time I need to waste, I do the
    dishes or laundry (my washer is in the kitchen). Cause I *know* if I
    leave, I'll forget and burn something. Even a timer doesn't help me; I
    hear it but then forget about it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    do I need to start making my own
    mayo?

    1 egg, 1c oil and 1t lemon juice, mix in a food processor... is that how
    to do it? Doesn't sound too hard. Is a food processor and a blender
    pretty much the same thing? I have a blender. I had to google food
    processor to see what it is.

    A food processor has different attaches to shred or slice foods, or to
    whip them or such. For the purposes of mayo, a blender would pretty
    much be the same. You have to add the oil gradually.

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  17. em said:


    "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Here's a really easy mayo recipe that was posted here a while back,
    you can
    vary the type of oil, vinegar (or lemon juice) and seasonings to taste.

    Are those little lemon shaped lemon juices the same as the stuff you buy
    in a bottle? I don't think I'd use a whole bottle of lemon concentrate
    in ten years.

    Fresh is best, but the bottled stuff is a lot more convenient. And yes,
    the lemon shaped plastic things are pretty much the same as the large
    glass bottles.

    I make lemonade often and compromise between laziness and best taste by
    using a half cup of bottled juice and a whole lemon for 2 quarts then
    sweeten with stevia.

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  18. Aaron Baugher said:
    BlueBrooke .@. said:

    A lot of people can taste the difference between the oils, but I sure
    can't. I can't taste any difference -- to me, oil is oil. I use an
    appropriate one, or one that's recommended in a recipe, just in case
    someone else who is eating it can tell.

    Quoted message said:

    I used to spend a lot of money on different oils, but I don't anymore.
    I never noticed the "nutty" or "woodsy" or "fruity" taste they were
    supposed to have. Or maybe I just don't know what these words mean as
    culinary terms?

    I'm the same way; I never pick up subtle differences in tastes. Oil
    just tastes like oil, and doing things like infusing it with herbs does
    nothing for me. I like nuts, and when I read through seed catalogs,
    there are supposedly "nutty" varieties of everything from lettuce to
    squash, but they just taste like lettuce and squash to me.

    I don't really notice the difference between "extra virgin" and regular
    olive oil.

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