Cooke does a Hasselbacher

On Wed, 11 May 2005 20:43:07 GMT, "Bart Van Hoorebeeck" <[email hidden]>

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and not a single thread here?

His rowdy comments as mentioned on cyclingnews.com make me laugh. He was
flying but "didn't want to pass in the wind".

Right. The door is always there in such sprints, waiting to be closed. If
Cooke hits the brakes after his error, like Bettini the day before, noone
would have mind about anything at all.

"I admit that I'm guilty because when I changed the gear for last time
the chain jumped a little bit. Cooke tried to lean his hand on me, he
failed and fell," Bettini told SportItalia.

"I don't like it at all, another rider has fallen and the first thing
I did is to meet him to see how he was and he snubs me. [But] that's
how cycling works and we have to move on"

Regards!
Stephen

Steve McGinty said:

On Wed, 11 May 2005 20:43:07 GMT, "Bart Van Hoorebeeck" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

and not a single thread here?

His rowdy comments as mentioned on cyclingnews.com make me laugh. He
was flying but "didn't want to pass in the wind".

Right. The door is always there in such sprints, waiting to be
closed. If Cooke hits the brakes after his error, like Bettini the
day before, noone would have mind about anything at all.

"I admit that I'm guilty because when I changed the gear for last time
the chain jumped a little bit. Cooke tried to lean his hand on me, he
failed and fell," Bettini told SportItalia.

"I don't like it at all, another rider has fallen and the first thing
I did is to meet him to see how he was and he snubs me. [But] that's
how cycling works and we have to move on"

Regards!
Stephen

Watched this live on Eurosport , They showed this from above and ahead and
It didn't look like Cooke took his hands of the bars till he hit the ground.

Jan

Italian judges in rules enforcement SHOCKAH!

I should have written "Giro judges", as I was making an assumption.
However, if il grillo can't get a judge's kiss at HOME, wearing PINK,
going for a stage WIN, I don't think I even need to see the video. But
I did see the overhead video, and it's not a tough call.

As far as crashing "voluntarily"--sometimes if you want the whistle,
you must take the charge, not that I recommend roulette of that sort.

"Bart Van Hoorebeeck" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
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Quoted message said:

and not a single thread here?

His rowdy comments as mentioned on cyclingnews.com make me laugh. He was
flying but "didn't want to pass in the wind".

Right. The door is always there in such sprints, waiting to be closed. If
Cooke hits the brakes after his error, like Bettini the day before, noone
would have mind about anything at all.

True, he could have avoided a crash by hitting the brakes, but as you said,
he would have definitely lost the stage through no fault of his own- (as the
Italien judges ruled, Bettini didn't follow his line.) Cooke has a
sprinter's mentality. Get him 300m from the line and all he sees is
daylight. He has faith that the other guys in the sprint know what they're
doing. We've seen the result before when non-sprinters try to mix it up with
the big boys.

Amazing somersault he did though. I've not no idea how he walked away from
it.

trg said:

"Bart Van Hoorebeeck" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
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and not a single thread here?

Amazing somersault he did though. I've not no idea how he walked away from
it.

Probably walked away from it cos he *did* a somersault rather than a
face-plant.

Regards!
Stephen

On Wed, 11 May 2005 22:50:28 +0100, "Jan" <[email hidden]>

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Steve McGinty said:

On Wed, 11 May 2005 20:43:07 GMT, "Bart Van Hoorebeeck" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

and not a single thread here?

His rowdy comments as mentioned on cyclingnews.com make me laugh. He
was flying but "didn't want to pass in the wind".

Right. The door is always there in such sprints, waiting to be
closed. If Cooke hits the brakes after his error, like Bettini the
day before, noone would have mind about anything at all.

"I admit that I'm guilty because when I changed the gear for last time
the chain jumped a little bit. Cooke tried to lean his hand on me, he
failed and fell," Bettini told SportItalia.

"I don't like it at all, another rider has fallen and the first thing
I did is to meet him to see how he was and he snubs me. [But] that's
how cycling works and we have to move on"

Regards!
Stephen

Watched this live on Eurosport , They showed this from above and ahead and
It didn't look like Cooke took his hands of the bars till he hit the ground.

Jan

I can believe Bettini's gear-slip as the move didn't look like a
normal hook.

Regards!
Stephen

How about "Bettini does a Hasselbacher but stays upright"?

Hunter said:

I should have written "Giro judges", as I was making an assumption.
However, if il grillo can't get a judge's kiss at HOME, wearing PINK,
going for a stage WIN, I don't think I even need to see the video. But
I did see the overhead video, and it's not a tough call.

As far as crashing "voluntarily"--sometimes if you want the whistle,
you must take the charge, not that I recommend roulette of that sort.

I doubt he had enough time to consider whether he wanted to crash or not
before it was too late.

-Sonarrat.

Jan said:

Watched this live on Eurosport , They showed this from above and ahead and
It didn't look like Cooke took his hands of the bars till he hit the ground.

Saw it on RAi (same pix I guess) - he did lift his right hand up to
reach for Bettini, put it back on bars, possibly touched wheels (it was
hard to see even in slow-mo), but did hold on tight and tuck his chin in
a la Floyd Paterson in order to do a perfect somersault.
All the best
Dan Gregory

On Wed, 11 May 2005 22:50:28 +0100, "Jan" <[email hidden]>

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Steve McGinty said:

On Wed, 11 May 2005 20:43:07 GMT, "Bart Van Hoorebeeck" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

and not a single thread here?

His rowdy comments as mentioned on cyclingnews.com make me laugh. He
was flying but "didn't want to pass in the wind".

Right. The door is always there in such sprints, waiting to be
closed. If Cooke hits the brakes after his error, like Bettini the
day before, noone would have mind about anything at all.

"I admit that I'm guilty because when I changed the gear for last time
the chain jumped a little bit. Cooke tried to lean his hand on me, he
failed and fell," Bettini told SportItalia.

"I don't like it at all, another rider has fallen and the first thing
I did is to meet him to see how he was and he snubs me. [But] that's
how cycling works and we have to move on"

Regards!
Stephen

Watched this live on Eurosport , They showed this from above and ahead and
It didn't look like Cooke took his hands of the bars till he hit the ground.

Jan

It's a pretty risky move, passing on the inside like that, but that's
what sprinters do. Isn't cooke a trackie? They do stuff like that. It
reminded me more of Isaac Galvez in the giro a couple of years ago,
trying to pass Cipollini and then that horrible crash. But you
couldn't really blame Galvez for that,it was pouring rain and they had
a deadman's curve right before the finish. However, it was a risky
move in that kind of weather. Galvez is also a tracke, i think his
specialty was the Madison. That's the kind of thing that they do in
the madison! It just shows you, sprinting really is not for the
nervous. Even when it's not raining and a dragstrip finish you can
still come to grief.

I remember that Haselbacher photo with his shorts all ripped and his
butt exposed- imagine all your relatives seeing that. Hopefully cooke
can stay in the race, I think Haselbacher eventually bailed.

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It's a pretty risky move, passing on the inside like that, but that's
what sprinters do. Isn't cooke a trackie? They do stuff like that. It
reminded me more of Isaac Galvez in the giro a couple of years ago,
trying to pass Cipollini and then that horrible crash. But you
couldn't really blame Galvez for that,it was pouring rain and they had
a deadman's curve right before the finish. However, it was a risky
move in that kind of weather. Galvez is also a tracke, i think his
specialty was the Madison.

Passing underneath a madison exchange is a big no-no.

When he started to move up the left side, Bettini was still almost in
the middle of the road.