Content Quality on the Forum

pdc said:

* I f y o u d o n ’ t k n o w s o m e t h i n g f o r s u r
e d o n ’ t m a k e a s p e c u l a t i v e p o s t . A l l
o w e x p e r i e n c e d r i d e r s a n d m e c h a n i c s
t o d r a w c o n c l u s i o n s . A s a l w a y s , i f y
o u d o n ’ t h a v e s o m e t h i n g t o c o n t r i b u t
e o t h e r t h a n a “ L O L ” , d o n ’ t p o s t . *

This bears repeating. Over and over. Shout it from every rooftop.

IMHO, pdc's post should be made a forum sticky. A newcomer to this
forum wouldn't know how to sift through the plethora of amateur's
opinions and find solid advice... how else are we to maintain the
integrity of this forum than through user education and self-policing?
I agree with every word of pdc's post, hope others will respect his
words, and do their part to maintain the quality of information on this
forum.

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20" bc's suck.
yeah there are alot of these

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Lol! That Will Be My Last

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GhettoSmurf said:

20" bc's suck.
yeah there are alot of these

Well its true.

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pdc youve said the b word on here before....i dont cuss but it stated
with a b and.thats worse in my mind than a harmless poss/topic....but
whatever.

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chosen said:

pdc youve said the b word on here before....i dont cuss but it stated
with a b and.thats worse in my mind than a harmless poss/topic....but
whatever.

First of all, I'm aware that I am not blameless in making frivolous or
other unnecessary posts. I was addressing individuals who make numerous
"contentless" posts, or posts that are giving innacurate or unproven
information. I guess my above rant was just for us all to think about
what we are posting. This forum is like a structure that we are all
building. A Library, a wealth of information. Let's make it a good
structure and a valuable accessable Library.

-Phil

ps - I apologize if I have used language that offended anyone.

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Experienced riders and mechanics?

Would you please define or include a list of the individuls who have
attained these illustrious PDC rankings and are therefore allowed to
post suggestions? The rest of us will know that opinions are no longer
welcome on this forum?

I think I'm just gonna hang out in JC where it's not so pretentious.

Sounds like a suggestion far worse for the fora than rep points to me.

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podzol said:

I think I'm just gonna hang out in JC where it's not so pretentious.

podzol, I think you are great and I am looking forward to meeting you
and Bear in Memphis, but I also think you are being a little hard on
pdc. I think he is trying to make this forum a more helpful place and
discourage some of the silly stuff. We have a forum for community
building (JC). And I think some of the silliness often slides over into
RSU and fills it with less than helpful info. I agree that the comment
about leaving it to the experts and mechanics was over the top, but I
think the essence of his comments are valid.

And for the love of God, please don't call me pretentious as well. In
my weakened condition, it may put me over the edge. 😄

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From time to time, someone triess to rein in the worst excesses of the
forum. I've done it myself before.

I'd say let's not sit too heavily on the banter from the younger and
newer members. This forum should be a friendly place. Not everything
should be factual or dry or completely original. People come here to
express their enthusiasm for and love of the sport too. I do it by
writing interminable essays; others do it by writing LOL.

However, I'd be pretty firm on:

- No swearing or abuse please.
- No personal insults or attacks please.
- No trolling please. (I find a polite request for poeople not to
troll never works!)
- On technical threads, please give accurate advice based on
knowledge and experience, not hearsay.
- If you're in a position to give advice, try to tailor it the
experience and needs of the person asking.

- If you are old, you don't have to be grumpy. But it sometimes
helps

Mikefule said:

From time to time, someone triess to rein in the worst excesses of the
forum. I've done it myself before.

I'd say let's not sit too heavily on the banter from the younger and
newer members. This forum should be a friendly place. Not everything
should be factual or dry or completely original. People come here to
express their enthusiasm for and love of the sport too. I do it by
writing interminable essays; others do it by writing LOL.

However, I'd be pretty firm on:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

- No swearing or abuse please.
- No personal insults or attacks please.
- No trolling please. (I find a polite request for poeople not to

Quoted message said:

troll never works!)

- On technical threads, please give accurate advice based on

Quoted message said:

knowledge and experience, not hearsay.

- If you're in a position to give advice, try to tailor it the

Quoted message said:

experience and needs of the person asking.

Quoted message said:

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>

- If you are old, you don't have to be grumpy. But it sometimes

Quoted message said:

helps

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

.

What he said: He's much more eloquent than I.

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Mikefule said:

From time to time, someone triess to rein in the worst excesses of the
forum. I've done it myself before.

I'd say let's not sit too heavily on the banter from the younger and
newer members. This forum should be a friendly place. Not everything
should be factual or dry or completely original. People come here to
express their enthusiasm for and love of the sport too. I do it by
writing interminable essays; others do it by writing LOL.

However, I'd be pretty firm on:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

- No swearing or abuse please.
- No personal insults or attacks please.
- No trolling please. (I find a polite request for poeople not to

Quoted message said:

troll never works!)

- On technical threads, please give accurate advice based on

Quoted message said:

knowledge and experience, not hearsay.

- If you're in a position to give advice, try to tailor it the

Quoted message said:

experience and needs of the person asking.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>

- If you are old, you don't have to be grumpy. But it sometimes

Quoted message said:

helps

Quoted message said:

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.

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Jethro said:

I think he is trying to make this forum a more helpful place and
discourage some of the silly stuff. We have a forum for community
building (JC).

This isn't purely a web forum - it's a usenet newsgroup that a
particular website chooses to present as a forum (or, depending upon
your point of view, a gateway for teh forum users to the newsgroup).

Newsgroup users see no other forum.

Users of other gateways (google groups, for example) may not see the
other forums either.

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Jethro said:

podzol, I think you are great and I am looking forward to meeting you
and Bear in Memphis, but I also think you are being a little hard on
pdc. I think he is trying to make this forum a more helpful place and
discourage some of the silly stuff. We have a forum for community
building (JC). And I think some of the silliness often slides over into
RSU and fills it with less than helpful info. I agree that the comment
about leaving it to the experts and mechanics was over the top, but I
think the essence of his comments are valid.

And for the love of God, please don't call me pretentious as well. In
my weakened condition, it may put me over the edge. 😄

Of course, I would not call any individual pretentious, but a forum
that has a sticky like that right at the top is going to really
discourage new riders and has a pretentious air about it. It's just
obnixous. NOT -pdc-, but the -post -is obnixious. If there is a
consensus among the long standing members that quality control on rec
sport is a must, well then perhaps a sticky that is carefully crafted
to be both welcoming and directing would be in order. If I were a
newbie, I'd seriously hesitate to post on a forum with a sticky like
that. Now I've been on the fora only about a year, so perhaps I have no
right to an opinion here. 😉

Sorry you're feeling ill. I didn't know you were under the weather!
Feel better soon, Jethro. :o I'm still recovering from my shoulder
surgery last month.

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I don't like stickys at the top of forums.

You have to be very careful before you start telling people what not to
post.

Not that the thread is unhelpful, but expecting it to be at the top of
the forum all the time? No thanks.

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I'm with podzol.

Cathy

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Awesome thread ...

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On reflection, I'm not sure it should be a sticky thread. It would be
better for it to be bumped to the top when needed, or for a new similar
thread to be started when needed. If a sticky is needed, it should be
a simple single post with no string of "Me too" posts following it. A
sort of "Welcome to our club" sort of thing.

Unfortunately, many people of all ages and backgrounds seem to need
reminding from time to time that forums like this are public spaces,
and that what they write may be read by strangers of all ages and
backgrounds around the world.

This thread is no pehaps more than a general request to post with
consideration, common sense and tact. Could Gilby arrange a simple,
friendly, welcoming, sticky, single-post, no replies "Forum
guidelines" post?

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I see where pdc is coming from. Everybody on here either says "oh yeah
Kh hubs are the best", or "No those suck" with no evidence or
experience with the product. It's getting pretty stupid. It would be
very hard for a noob to come on here and get an accurate conclusion
about a product.

Most people talk [censored] about something they havn't even used before!
Then others just say things are [censored] from what others have told them or
from what they hear. Even from pics of something that has broke. They
dont know how it broke and just think "oh those must be cheap and
junky." So i think the only ppl that should post about a product
whether its good or bad are the ones who have used or been with someone
that has used the product.

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For the record, I never asked for this to be a sticky. I also don't
pretend to be an authority. I was just frustrared by the direction of
the forum and spoke my mind. I agree with points made by podzol and
others here.

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