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  1. Who knew other cyclist had so much contempt for Unicyclists?๐Ÿ™
    I was talking w/a mountain biker friend of mine today, and long story
    short, I told them that me and several other MUni riders were going to
    be at our local mt. bike trail in May. (There was going to be a race
    the day after we were scheduled to have our MUni rendevous, but it got
    cancelled because of scheduling conflicts with another race). My friend
    said it was good that the race was postponed because the MTBers would
    be "running all over the unicyclist"!๐Ÿ˜ 
    I know _from_experience__that a unicycle cant keep up w/any good mtber,
    but the disgust in my friends voice made me realize that this is
    probably how alot, if not most of them think! What do you guys
    think?๐Ÿ˜•

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  2. The majority of our local mtbr's embrace us. There hold the art of MUni
    in high regard and stop to chat often. Some even extend invitations
    for us to show up at racing venues. There are those that hold the
    title of "Eliteist B@st@rd" though and you just have to recognize them
    for who they are.

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  3. red_rider said:

    I know _from_experience__that a unicycle cant keep up w/any good mtber

    You're pretty much validating what your mtber friend said right there.

    I think MTBers do run all over us but in my experience they're quite
    positive about it, I mean who doesn't like overtaking ppl? Of course
    there are exceptions, a super fast unicyclist can keep up with most
    bikers (but no "good mtbers"!)

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  4. Most people that I know think uni's are stupid and meant for circus
    folk...

    however, whenever I actually get on it and ride, most people freeze
    with amazement...

    so far I think only a few have pointed and laughed, but most of them
    are just amazed...

    In my entire life, I have only met 1 other person that can actually
    ride a uni ... lol

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  5. I have always had good experience with bmxers they have always been well
    cool, but the other day at exeter skate park even when I was riding the
    bmxers were rite [censored] heads hummin the circus tune n laughin thinkin
    there hard, any one wana get a possy together n kick some ass lol

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  6. pete66 said:

    You're pretty much validating what your mtber friend said right there.

    I think MTBers do run all over us but in my experience they're quite
    positive about it, I mean who doesn't like overtaking ppl? Of course
    there are exceptions, a super fast unicyclist can keep up with most
    bikers (but no "good mtbers"!)

    Im not VALIDATING anything, especially the attitude and contempt that
    was shown. Anyone who does MUni knows that a unicycle just isnt
    designed to be as efficient as a Bike.(simple physics) but I hope that
    more people will embrace Unis on trails in the future!

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  7. pete66 said:

    You're pretty much validating what your mtber friend said right there.

    I think MTBers do run all over us but in my experience they're quite
    positive about it, I mean who doesn't like overtaking ppl? Of course
    there are exceptions, a super fast unicyclist can keep up with most
    bikers (but no "good mtbers"!)

    A very good uni-rider might indeed keep up with an average MTBer,
    depending on the terrain, average uni-rider - no chance. You can't
    compare the two disciplines. It's like trying to compare a boxer with a
    wrestler, a soccer player with a tennis player, a condor with a falcon
    ...

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  8. red_rider said:

    Who knew other cyclist had so much contempt for Unicyclists?๐Ÿ™
    I was talking w/a mountain biker friend of mine today, and long story
    short, I told them that me and several other MUni riders were going to
    be at our local mt. bike trail in May. (There was going to be a race
    the day after we were scheduled to have our MUni rendevous, but it got
    cancelled because of scheduling conflicts with another race). My friend
    said it was good that the race was postponed because the MTBers would
    be "running all over the unicyclist"!๐Ÿ˜ 
    I know _from_experience__that a unicycle cant keep up w/any good mtber,
    but the disgust in my friends voice made me realize that this is
    probably how alot, if not most of them think! What do you guys
    think?๐Ÿ˜•

    "Contempt" and "disgust" are rather harsh words. I don't think most
    bicyclists feel that way about us. They probably don't take us very
    seriously and may laugh or chuckle behind our backs.

    For the most part, I think there is a cordial "get along" factor
    between the two groups. When we MUni, we are always happy to get out of
    the way of someone on two wheels. They generally do travel faster than
    us. We tease them about having a "training wheel" and they tease us
    about having lost a wheel.

    Face it, we do this because it is different. You have to put up with a
    certain amount of "off" remarks if you want to be different. However,
    the vast majority of remarks are positive or intended to be positive.
    Even the "where's your other wheel" comments which non-riders think are
    funny. They are acknowledging your accomplisment. Accept it as a
    compliment.

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  9. I havent been talked to by bikers while riding any trails, cause when i
    muni, i dont go on "trails" if the hill is step, ill ride it, if i see
    something that might work, i go for it, or im usally at a construction
    site riding down the huge gravel hills =p

    I have, while doing trials and street, been ridiculed by the bikers and
    skaters, cause at first they only saw me doing one-footed rifing, kinda
    of warming up, then when im gapping the same stuff the skaters are
    doing, and unlike them, i was landing it, they ended up just leaving,
    which kinda sucked, cause then i felt lonely lol. Another time there
    were two bikers there, with trials bikes, first two ive ever seen in
    spokane, and they did a trials line, but on the bigger drop, the guy
    wrecked, so i did the same line, completed it, and kept riding, next
    thing i knew the two bikers rode away.

    So i guess im the one riding all over them =p

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    180-unispin, and seat drag\pushes =p

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  10. Wheel Rider said:

    Face it, we do this because it is different. You have to put up with a
    certain amount of "off" remarks if you want to be different. However,
    the vast majority of remarks are positive or intended to be positive.
    Even the "where's your other wheel" comments which non-riders think are
    funny. They are acknowledging your accomplisment. Accept it as a
    compliment.

    good talking

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  11. Has anyone ever out done, or does anyone know someone who has
    "outdone"(speed,hills, jumps,spins, whatever) a mt. biker, roadie,
    skater, bmx, etc. I would love to hear about it!
    I guess I feel a bit wounded by my friends response! We have Mtb
    together for years and we will always be friends, but I just feel
    somewhat dejected!(self pity)!๐Ÿ™

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  12. the mtbers around me love me and take me to all there downhill races.
    The only other bikers that i have found hate us are trials bikers but
    most are "eleatist [censored]".

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  13. Mostly the mtb'ers that I have met haven't realised what unicycles can
    do. Then I show them one of the videos I have on my PPC and they
    change their minds.

    Cathy

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  14. cathwood said:

    I show them one of the videos I have on my PPC

    Why didn't I think of that?๐Ÿ™‚

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  15. underdog said:

    Why didn't I think of that?๐Ÿ™‚

    I would have liked to say that I did some fantastic riding and showed
    them what unicyclists could really do; but it wouldn't be true. I would
    probably just reinforce their stereotype as I fell over or failed to
    mount the beast.

    Cathy

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  16. cathwood said:

    Mostly the mtb'ers that I have met haven't realised what unicycles can
    do. Then I show them one of the videos I have on my PPC and they
    change their minds.

    Cathy

    I like that idea too. I have shown a couple of people the Universe DVD,
    but I havent gotten the chance to show any MTBers! Thanks Cathy!๐Ÿ™‚

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  17. red_rider said:

    Has anyone ever out done, or does anyone know someone who has
    "outdone"(speed,hills, jumps,spins, whatever) a mt. biker, roadie,
    skater, bmx, etc. I would love to hear about it!
    I guess I feel a bit wounded by my friends response! We have Mtb
    together for years and we will always be friends, but I just feel
    somewhat dejected!(self pity)!๐Ÿ™

    Lets we have person X who is reasonably in shape. Person X will be
    faster on a bike offroad, on road, naked, etc than we would be doing
    the same things on a unicycle. Unicycles are SLOWER than bikes,
    PERIOD. Don't take it personaly. That's like being mad that bikes are
    slower than motorcycles.

    I'd say your friend was upset because he imagined unicycles getting in
    the way on singletrack, etc. Guess what, they do. It's not a problem
    if the unicyclers get out of the way when being passed, however, like
    any smart unicycler would. Your friend is just assuming the worst case
    scenario.

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  18. i have passed bikers going up hill on my coker and muni. also ryan
    atkins who pro or expert at motorama a few years back. he beat out some
    or the best trials bikers in the states

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  19. i was out a week or so ago in the forest doing some natural trials lines
    that i had found and i saw a few mtn bikers and they stopped to chat
    for a bit. i showed them some of my stuff and they seemed quite
    impressed the only thing that was even close to negative was that if i
    came when it was wet to try to avoind landing from drops on the acctual
    trail because it leaves big pot holes in that trail. thay asked very
    politely so i was happy to oblige becuase i kno a good hard drop could
    leave a sizable mark in that triail.

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  20. red_rider said:

    I hope that more people will embrace Unis on trails in the future!

    More people embrace us on the trails every day. Most of them.

    Red, you have to lighten up and let some people react wrong, because
    they don't know enough about us. When you actually meet mountain bikers
    on the trail, they're almost always impressed and complimentary. They
    have to see us to believe us.

    I don't think of us as "two different groups" either. We are all trail
    users, we are all cyclists. Our cycles are just a little different.
    Like fixed-gear bikers, we choose the path of a bigger challenge. But
    mostly we're there for the same reasons as the bikers, and getting the
    same enjoyment out of riding there. We are much more alike than we are
    different.

    In a bike racing situation, however, a group of unicyclists on the
    trail would get in the way, and could even be a safety hazard. "Real"
    races only happen on closed trails, so hopefully you would be shooed
    off if a race was actually going on.

    Bike vs. unicycle:
    All things being equal, such as rider skill and fitness, the bike will
    win almost every time. By a lot. Bikes are faster. Especially downhill.
    Unicycles are more fun.

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