Consider Group Name Change

"Jim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Sad to say but I have finally found these posts amusing as long as they
are not too lengthy. Now that I have accepted this group for what it is I
can take small pleasures in it and have abandoned my former frustration.

Don't know how many may agree but if you do we might want to consider a
more suitable name that represents our subject matter.

I won't pretend to be creative enough to suggest a name but invite others
to do so.

In the unlikely event that an off-topic post about recumbents arises we
shall just have to tolerate them.

Happy (insert preferred politically correct text here) to you all.

Jim

Jim, some of the recent posts in a few threads here on ARBR have gone on and
on at great length and I know that no one is reading them. It is case of
egos running amuck.

I hold myself as a model of how we should be posting to ARBR. A few well
crafted paragraphs is all that is ever required. Any more than that and you
are out of control. I am surprised that Mr. Sherman fell for the bait -
hook, line and sinker. He should have known better. Please, everyone, let us
control ourselves!

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:43:21 -0600, "Jim" <[email hidden]> said in
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I won't pretend to be creative enough to suggest a name but invite others to
do so.

Obviously the group is now alt.troll.ed.dolan :-)

Guy
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simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:43:21 -0600, "Jim" <[email hidden]> said in
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Quoted message said:

I won't pretend to be creative enough to suggest a name but invite others
to
do so.

Obviously the group is now alt.troll.ed.dolan :-)

Guy

Poor Guy Chapman would not know a troll if one jumped up and bit him in the
elbow. There has been only one troll here on ARBR since I have been here
(over 3 years) and that is Ed Gin. He is a criminal vandal troll and he
murdered this newsgroup last winter. Mr. Sherman stood by and let it happen.
Guy Chapman took a powder too. These types will not defend the group when it
comes under attack. My contempt for them is boundless! They are essentially
cowards, like all liberals.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

Edward Dolan said:

"...Can you imagine anyone calling me Eddie (besides Tom Sherman of course). God, I > want to puke at all these childish names.

Yo Eddie,

The first person to call you Eddie was Beth the Alaskan Recumbent
Princess:
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/fbd923587995ebaa?dmode=source>.

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Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

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Edward Dolan said:

"...Can you imagine anyone calling me Eddie (besides Tom Sherman of
course). God, I > want to puke at all these childish names.

Yo Eddie,

The first person to call you Eddie was Beth the Alaskan Recumbent
Princess:
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/fbd923587995ebaa?dmode=source>.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

In re-reading that old post from 2004 I am stuck by how much meaner and
nastier I have become. Poor Beth would not have a chance against me today. I
attribute all my meanness and nastiness to having to deal with rogues and
scoundrels like Mr. Sherman.

In any event, whether I am pleasant or not so pleasant, women do not hang
around long when the Great Ed Dolan is on the scene. I think they want and
expect me to defer to them whereas I do not see any reason to defer to them
except on their own ground of proper feminine concerns, like taking care of
children, cooking meals and going to church. Everyone in the world knows
what women are good for and they ought to stick to that. I am afraid I have
the effect of intimidating women with my penetrating intellect and
directness of speech.

Nevertheless, this group could use some womanly input. I fear we are
becoming too coarse and vulgar without their soft touch. It seems all we are
doing lately is cussing and swearing at one another. Women would make us
ashamed of this typical masculine behavior and we could perhaps become
better than we would otherwise be.

We do not want coarse and vulgar women to come to ARBR of course. The women
who come to ARBR should be of the caliber of Our Blessed Lady, the Virgin
Mary. The Great Ed Dolan will know how to behave when in the presence of
wise and saintly ladies.

The Great Ed Dolan only goes berserk when confronted by coarse and vulgar
women, just about the only kind we have ever had here on ARBR as far as I
can recall. Beth was only so-so in this way as I remember her, not bad but
not good either.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Jim said:

Sad to say but I have finally found these posts amusing as long as they are
not too lengthy. Now that I have accepted this group for what it is I can
take small pleasures in it and have abandoned my former frustration.

Don't know how many may agree but if you do we might want to consider a more
suitable name that represents our subject matter....

alt.rec.JimmyMac.presenting.accusations.against.EdGin.without.definitive.proof

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Jim said:

Sad to say but I have finally found these posts amusing as long as they are
not too lengthy. Now that I have accepted this group for what it is I can
take small pleasures in it and have abandoned my former frustration.

Quoted message said:

Don't know how many may agree but if you do we might want to consider a more
suitable name that represents our subject matter....

ALT.REC.JOHNNY SUNSET.TERGIVERSATION.COM

JimmyMac

Quoted message said:

Jim said:

Sad to say but I have finally found these posts amusing as long as they are
not too lengthy. Now that I have accepted this group for what it is I can
take small pleasures in it and have abandoned my former frustration.

Quoted message said:

Don't know how many may agree but if you do we might want to consider a more
suitable name that represents our subject matter....

ALT.REC.JOHNNY SUNSET.TERGIVERSATION.COM

Will Mr. McNamara provide DEFINITIVE PROOF OF HIS ALLEGATIONS?

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Quoted message said:

Jim said:

Sad to say but I have finally found these posts amusing as long as they are
not too lengthy. Now that I have accepted this group for what it is I can
take small pleasures in it and have abandoned my former frustration.

Quoted message said:

Don't know how many may agree but if you do we might want to consider a more
suitable name that represents our subject matter....

ALT.REC.JOHNNY SUNSET.TERGIVERSATION.COM

Will Mr. McNamara provide DEFINITIVE PROOF OF HIS ALLEGATIONS?

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

"Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Jim said:

Sad to say but I have finally found these posts amusing as long as they
are
not too lengthy. Now that I have accepted this group for what it is I
can
take small pleasures in it and have abandoned my former frustration.

Quoted message said:

Don't know how many may agree but if you do we might want to consider a
more
suitable name that represents our subject matter....

ALT.REC.JOHNNY SUNSET.TERGIVERSATION.COM

Will Mr. McNamara provide DEFINITIVE PROOF OF HIS ALLEGATIONS?

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Tom, cut this [censored] out. Put Jimmy Oil and theGeezer from hell on your kill
file or I'm putting you on mine. I used to get a chuckle from your posts
back in the days of the impoverished masters candidate, pedantic as they
were. But I'm fokking sick and tired of seeing you quote those miserable
motherfokkers in a battle of neverfokkingending snits.

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gotbent said:

"Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Jim wrote:
> Sad to say but I have finally found these posts amusing as long as they
> are
> not too lengthy. Now that I have accepted this group for what it is I
> can
> take small pleasures in it and have abandoned my former frustration.

> Don't know how many may agree but if you do we might want to consider a
> more
> suitable name that represents our subject matter....

ALT.REC.JOHNNY SUNSET.TERGIVERSATION.COM

Will Mr. McNamara provide DEFINITIVE PROOF OF HIS ALLEGATIONS?

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Tom, cut this [censored] out. Put Jimmy Oil and theGeezer from hell on your kill
file or I'm putting you on mine. I used to get a chuckle from your posts
back in the days of the impoverished masters candidate, pedantic as they
were. But I'm fokking sick and tired of seeing you quote those miserable
motherfokkers in a battle of neverfokkingending snits.

It is probably time to put the HRS blog authorship discussion to rest,
since it seems to be going in circles.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Johnny Sunset said:

gotbent said:

"Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[email hidden] wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> > Sad to say but I have finally found these posts amusing as long as they
> > are
> > not too lengthy. Now that I have accepted this group for what it is I
> > can
> > take small pleasures in it and have abandoned my former frustration.
>
> > Don't know how many may agree but if you do we might want to consider a
> > more
> > suitable name that represents our subject matter....
>
> ALT.REC.JOHNNY SUNSET.TERGIVERSATION.COM

Will Mr. McNamara provide DEFINITIVE PROOF OF HIS ALLEGATIONS?

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Tom, cut this [censored] out. Put Jimmy Oil and theGeezer from hell on your kill
file or I'm putting you on mine. I used to get a chuckle from your posts
back in the days of the impoverished masters candidate, pedantic as they
were. But I'm fokking sick and tired of seeing you quote those miserable
motherfokkers in a battle of neverfokkingending snits.

It is probably time to put the HRS blog authorship discussion to rest,
since it seems to be going in circles.

You think?

Indiana Mike

Mike Rice said:

On 27 Dec 2005 17:34:45 -0800, "Johnny Sunset"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
...

Quoted message said:

It is probably time to put the HRS blog authorship discussion to rest,
since it seems to be going in circles.

You think?

I was adopting the Lorenzo L. Love versus Larry Varney tactic.

So, would you pay $3,900.00 to $4,600.00 [1] for a BigHa? 😉

BIGHA also stands for "Bath Independent Guest House Association" [2].
😉

[1] <http://www.bigha.com/buy/index_bike.php>.
[2] <http://www.bigha.co.uk/>.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Johnny Sunset said:

Mike Rice said:

On 27 Dec 2005 17:34:45 -0800, "Johnny Sunset"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
...

Quoted message said:

It is probably time to put the HRS blog authorship discussion to rest,
since it seems to be going in circles.

You think?

I was adopting the Lorenzo L. Love versus Larry Varney tactic.

So, would you pay $3,900.00 to $4,600.00 [1] for a BigHa? 😉

BIGHA also stands for "Bath Independent Guest House Association" [2].
😉

[1] <http://www.bigha.com/buy/index_bike.php>.
[2] <http://www.bigha.co.uk/>.

I guess getting one of the second examples for this price would be a
bargain indeed!

LL was pretty determined to disparage the BigHa, I always thought that
if he were truly looking for one of thier customers that this was the
wrong forum. Are the sales figures available?

Indiana Mike
Indiana Mike

Mike Rice said:

Johnny Sunset said:

Mike Rice said:

On 27 Dec 2005 17:34:45 -0800, "Johnny Sunset"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
...
>It is probably time to put the HRS blog authorship discussion to rest,
>since it seems to be going in circles.

You think?

I was adopting the Lorenzo L. Love versus Larry Varney tactic.

So, would you pay $3,900.00 to $4,600.00 [1] for a BigHa? 😉

BIGHA also stands for "Bath Independent Guest House Association" [2].
😉

[1] <http://www.bigha.com/buy/index_bike.php>.
[2] <http://www.bigha.co.uk/>.

I guess getting one of the second examples for this price would be a
bargain indeed!

I wonder if one is allowed to bring one's bicycle into the Bath guest
houses. Of course, taking a vacation in Bath has always been the
preserve of the English upper class which allows for a certain degree
of eccentricity.

Quoted message said:

LL was pretty determined to disparage the BigHa, I always thought that
if he were truly looking for one of thier customers that this was the
wrong forum. Are the sales figures available?

As a private company BigHa has no obligation to release sales figures,
so unless a worker in the BigHa sales or shipping department wishes to
reveal confidential business information (possibly illegal, and likely
grounds for termination) we will not know.
It would be interesting to know how many people will spend that amount
of money on a heavy, not so fast "luxury" bicycle. A bike such as the
HP Velotechnik Sprit [1] would appear to have similar ride and
performance to the BigHa, for approximately one-half (1/2) the price
when equipped with disc brakes and a generator hub powered lighting.

L.L.L. appeared to have a dislike of BigHa due to the way BikeE went
out of business, with many of the former BikeE principals turning up at
BigHa. (See also the legal battle between BigHa and former BikeE
supplier Giant.)

[1] <http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/spirit/index_e.html>.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

gotbent said:

"Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

...

Tom, cut this [censored] out. Put Jimmy Oil and theGeezer from hell on your kill
file or I'm putting you on mine. I used to get a chuckle from your posts
back in the days of the impoverished masters candidate, pedantic as they
were. But I'm fokking sick and tired of seeing you quote those miserable
motherfokkers in a battle of neverfokkingending snits.

Request granted. I will cease debating the authorship of the HRS blog
with Mr. McNamara, since pretty much everything that could reasonably
be said has been said. If Mr. McNamara wished to continue, that is his
option.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 21:05:48 -0800, Johnny Sunset <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Mike Rice said:

Johnny Sunset said:

Mike Rice wrote:
> On 27 Dec 2005 17:34:45 -0800, "Johnny Sunset"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> ...
> >It is probably time to put the HRS blog authorship discussion to

rest,

Quoted message said:

> >since it seems to be going in circles.
>
> You think?

I was adopting the Lorenzo L. Love versus Larry Varney tactic.

So, would you pay $3,900.00 to $4,600.00 [1] for a BigHa? 😉

BIGHA also stands for "Bath Independent Guest House Association" [2].
😉

[1] <http://www.bigha.com/buy/index_bike.php>.
[2] <http://www.bigha.co.uk/>.

I guess getting one of the second examples for this price would be a
bargain indeed!

I wonder if one is allowed to bring one's bicycle into the Bath guest
houses. Of course, taking a vacation in Bath has always been the
preserve of the English upper class which allows for a certain degree
of eccentricity.

Quoted message said:

LL was pretty determined to disparage the BigHa, I always thought that
if he were truly looking for one of thier customers that this was the
wrong forum. Are the sales figures available?

As a private company BigHa has no obligation to release sales figures,
so unless a worker in the BigHa sales or shipping department wishes to
reveal confidential business information (possibly illegal, and likely
grounds for termination) we will not know.
It would be interesting to know how many people will spend that amount
of money on a heavy, not so fast "luxury" bicycle. A bike such as the
HP Velotechnik Sprit [1] would appear to have similar ride and
performance to the BigHa, for approximately one-half (1/2) the price
when equipped with disc brakes and a generator hub powered lighting.

L.L.L. appeared to have a dislike of BigHa due to the way BikeE went
out of business, with many of the former BikeE principals turning up at
BigHa. (See also the legal battle between BigHa and former BikeE
supplier Giant.)

[1] <http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/spirit/index_e.html>.

I have nothing against Bigha, it looks like a good $1500 bike. I just
wonder who would be nuts enough to pay $4600 for one.

Lorenzo L. Love

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"Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Mike Rice said:

On 27 Dec 2005 17:34:45 -0800, "Johnny Sunset"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
...

Quoted message said:

It is probably time to put the HRS blog authorship discussion to rest,
since it seems to be going in circles.

You think?

I was adopting the Lorenzo L. Love versus Larry Varney tactic.

So, would you pay $3,900.00 to $4,600.00 [1] for a BigHa? 😉

Yes, I knew exactly what Mr. Sherman was doing and so that is why I stayed
out of it. He had obviously adopted the Lorenzo L. Love tactic of harping on
a single point and since it was a fairly good point and was hard to refute,
it more or less worked.

But no one does better than Mr. Love what he does. I think he drove poor Mr.
Varney crazy. That entire thread is a classic and worth reviewing in order
to learn something about tactics and humor. Somehow it never got to be
tedious like Mr. Sherman's effort.

What Mr. Sherman should have done of course is to have severely edited those
posts on the HRS blogs. If he had done that it is possible that the thread
would also have become a classic instead of being merely tedious. Brevity is
the soul of wit.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Gotbent wrote...

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Tom, cut this [censored] out. Put Jimmy Oil and theGeezer from hell on your kill
file or I'm putting you on mine. I used to get a chuckle from your posts
back in the days of the impoverished masters candidate, pedantic as they
were. But I'm fokking sick and tired of seeing you quote those miserable
motherfokkers in a battle of neverfokkingending snits.

There was no casue for you to refer to me aA Jimmy Oil, but I will
overlook that. Your point is well taken and apparenly Tom feels
likewise ... we agree on something at last.

Quite some time back, I requested that Tom accept an agree to diasgree
truce so that we could just let this go and move on, but my reasonable
suggestion was rejected sevral times. At this juncture, it is
reasonable to assume that the readership has grown weary of this
debate. All that was in need of being said has likely already been
said several times over. I agree with you. The debate must cease.
I'm done ... debate concluded.

JimmyMac