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Congratulations, Paula Radcliffe

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  1. .... on winning London in 2:17:42, more than five minutes clear of a
    world-class field despite a toilet stop at 22 miles.

    It will be interesting to see how many newspapers tomorrow talk of her
    "answering her critics" without admitting that they were the ones
    doing the criticising.

    Roll on Helsinki!

  2. Quoted message said:

    Roids. Wait till they test her, then she'll be banned.

    Dream on.

  3. Roids. Wait till they test her, then she'll be banned.

  4. Quoted message said:

    Roids.

    Are next to useless or even counter-productive to endurance runners.

    EPO and the like maybe but steroids are pointless.

  5. "steve common" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    [steroids] Are next to useless or even counter-productive to endurance
    runners.

    EPO and the like maybe but steroids are pointless.

    The winner or 2nd place in the 10k in the '84 olympics (which I witnessed)
    was DQ'd for steroids.

    At the time I read that they increase the hematocrit, improving endurance.

    EPO is probably more targeted (and harder to detect), but anabolics do help
    endurance athletes some.

    -- Dan

  6. Dan Stumpus said:

    but anabolics do help
    endurance athletes some.

    Oops my bad. Had read some article where they'd done comparison of different
    dope on performance and steroids were in the "background noise" for
    endurance events but high up for sprinting/throwing/jumping.

    EPO was the one boosting haematocrit to 50%

  7. Dan Stumpus said:

    The winner or 2nd place in the 10k in the '84 olympics (which I


    witnessed)

    Quoted message said:

    was DQ'd for steroids.

    I´m not saying that too much running on natural surfaces can damage
    your memory cells, but if you were there at the Coliseum, how can you
    have forgotten Alberto Cova´s final kick?:-)

    The runner whose "test result was positive" was Martti Vainio, the tall
    Finn with whom Cova formed a funnylooking pair for most of the race.

    Quoted message said:

    At the time I read that they increase the hematocrit, improving


    endurance.

    For that purpose Vainio could´ve resorted to blood doping (not that
    there´s any way of knowing or proving that he - or any other Finn of
    the 70´s and 80´s - didn´t). That explanation strikes me as more or
    less taken out of thin air by a baffled commentator.

    At the time it was believed (in some circles) that a low testosterone
    level was a certain sign of overtraining or that the danger of
    overtraining could be averted by rising such a low level by taking
    testosterone. By all accounts, this is exactly what Vainio did - but it
    turned out that the ampoules he´d purchased (over the counter) in
    Palermo contained the steroid which later showed up in his sample.

    (Testosterone alone would´ve been a banned substance, but the point of
    this little story is not that he wasn´t guilty...)

    Anders

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