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  1. What's the best way to make a complaint about a london bus driver, so that
    he *will* get severly penalised? B*st*rd cut two of us up. He actually came
    to a stop next to us at the bus stop. I had millimetres to spare and we were
    both reasonbly moving (about 13mph). The bloke was unapologetic and was
    giving a fairly animated display of what he thought about us.

    I had a camera and have a photo of the front of the bus with the time,
    location and reasonable picture of this guy.

    I swear my number was too close to up than for my liking.

  2. elyob said:

    What's the best way to make a complaint about a london bus driver, so that
    he *will* get severly penalised? B*st*rd cut two of us up. He actually came
    to a stop next to us at the bus stop. I had millimetres to spare and we were
    both reasonbly moving (about 13mph). The bloke was unapologetic and was
    giving a fairly animated display of what he thought about us.

    Fairly normal behaviour for a London bus driver really. Let us know if
    you get anywhere.

    --
    Dave...

  3. "Dave Kahn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    elyob said:

    What's the best way to make a complaint about a london bus driver, so
    that he *will* get severly penalised? B*st*rd cut two of us up. He
    actually came to a stop next to us at the bus stop. I had millimetres to
    spare and we were both reasonbly moving (about 13mph). The bloke was
    unapologetic and was giving a fairly animated display of what he thought
    about us.

    Fairly normal behaviour for a London bus driver really. Let us know if you
    get anywhere.

    I'll put in a formal complaint, so if he kills anyone, then the managers may
    be up for tough questioning in the future. But I doubt anything will come of
    this experience.

  4. elyob <[email hidden]> whizzed past me shouting

    Quoted message said:


    [censored], [censored] and, obviously, [censored].com

    Already I seem to already think that this f***** will get away with this,
    the police won't care and I will live in fear. (well, not a lot of fear, as
    I generally like bus drivers that I know ... just fear that this bloke is
    crazed.)

    Mail a civil complaint to his employer, taking care to sound as much
    like a sensible person and as little like a crackpot or habitual
    complainer as possible.
    If a bus driver can't keep his cool he isn't coping with his job, and
    the chances are that a number of non-fatal incidents will add up to a
    change of employment before anything major happens. Your complaint will
    be one of them.

    To be fair to bus drivers, it's a high stress occupation, with little
    protection from unreasonable or even violent passengers, and pressure to
    keep to a tight schedule in an awkward vehicle that mustn't be thrown
    around.
    Failed bus drivers usually take to coach driving instead.

    --
    Sue ]🙁🙂

    Bicycle helmets are really a bit of a scam.
    They make most cyclists slightly less safe but there's money in selling them.

  5. "elyob" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    I had a camera and have a photo of the front of the bus with the time,
    location and reasonable picture of this guy.

    Complain to the bus company in writing, stating the time, location, bus
    route, registration number etc.
    Send a copy of your complaint to London Buses at TfL.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  6. "Helen Deborah Vecht" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "elyob" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    I had a camera and have a photo of the front of the bus with the time,
    location and reasonable picture of this guy.

    Complain to the bus company in writing, stating the time, location, bus
    route, registration number etc.
    Send a copy of your complaint to London Buses at TfL.

    I think I'll sound like a crackpot when I send them ..

    - GPS
    Latitude Reference = N
    Latitude = 51/1 30/1 1471/100
    Longitude Reference = W
    Longitude = 0/1 13/1 2833/100
    Altitude Reference = 0
    Altitude = 5/1

    etc etc ...

    It was an East Thames Bus ... 295 ...

    I normally let this sort of thing go, but he really riled the two of us. I'm
    glad I was the one in front, as my mate got fairly near to squashed.

  7. "elyob" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    I'll put in a formal complaint, so if he kills anyone, then the
    managers may
    be up for tough questioning in the future. But I doubt anything will
    come of
    this experience.

    You might be surprised!
    I have had helpful responses both from London Buses and from bus
    companies, on the occasions I have complained.

    I have sent you email copies from one such incident.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  8. "Helen Deborah Vecht" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "elyob" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    I'll put in a formal complaint, so if he kills anyone, then the
    managers may
    be up for tough questioning in the future. But I doubt anything will
    come of
    this experience.

    You might be surprised!
    I have had helpful responses both from London Buses and from bus
    companies, on the occasions I have complained.

    I have sent you email copies from one such incident.

    Thanks Helen .. just read those. It looked like you got some reasonable
    answers to your letters, and I will be pen in hand tomorrow. I'm a little
    concerned that they put these complaints on the jokes noticeboard, and all
    have a good laugh. Is it my business to know whether they "really" follow
    these complaints up.

    I will, however, write to the offending company and hope it at least goes on
    record and corrects "this one bad apple" in the future.

    Ta

  9. I might have suggested that you write to the director of London
    Transport, but it might not do you much good. (See below).
    Unfortunately your experiences do not sound that out of the ordinary.
    In one case I have been told of a London bus driver who deliberately
    cut up a cyclist then berated the cyclist, boasting that he had
    actually killed two cyclists in his bus-driving career and had got away
    with it both times...

    Guardian
    Wednesday February 1, 2006

    The Emma Brockes interview: Peter Hendy

    Q: Why the bendy buses? A: It's not me thinking, let's introduce these
    humping great monsters. The fact is, the Routemasters got too small

    Peter Hendy poses before a map of the Greater London transport system
    trying, as he puts it, to assume a "new, grave expression and look very
    commissioner-like". It is not his natural demeanour. "I'll look
    poncey," he says, when asked to put his hat on for the photo. "He's not
    poncey!" chuckles his press officer. The smile fades a moment later
    when Hendy sounds off, unponcily, on the subject of cyclists who moan
    about bus drivers. "Cyclists are the bloody last people to talk about
    bad behaviour on the roads," he fumes. "Jumping red lights ...
    unbelievable." He dives out of the room as if into a head wind.

    Today, Peter Hendy, 52, takes over from Bob Kiley as the man in charge
    of London transport. As well as the bus and tube networks he is
    responsible for the congestion charge, a position, he says drily, that
    ensures "you are never alone at a party". His last job was as head of
    the London bus network, or director of surface transport as it is
    officially known, where he oversaw an unprecedented 4% shift from car
    to bus use and replaced the old Routemasters with 18m-long "bendy"
    buses. His role in getting London moving after the July 7 bombings
    earned him a CBE and he has the image of a man who rolls up his shirt
    sleeves and gets things done. This is partly due to his stocky build
    and lively manner, and partly to the romance of his background. Hendy's
    first job was as a bus conductor on the number 11 and he can still,
    just, carry off warm references to his mates down at Alperton bus
    garage. He summarises his working style thus: "I like being outside."

  10. elyob said:

    Maybe I should make a site named [censored].com, but then I'll
    have to start [censored], [censored] and, obviously,
    [censored].com

    Well if you start the car one then you're welcome to use

    http://www.hybrids.org.uk/bmw1.jpg
    http://www.hybrids.org.uk/bmw2.jpg

    I know a lot of people can't stand BMW drivers in the first place but
    we're not all as inconsiderate as these two [censored].

    Chris
    --
    Chris Eilbeck

  11. 'I know a lot of people can't stand BMW drivers in the first place but
    we're not all as inconsiderate as these two [censored].'

    I have certainly found that many BMW drivers (along with 4x4 drivers)
    are amongst the most arrogant and inconsiderate on the road, but I
    can't really see the issue here. One looks as though it shows a BMW
    driver who has stopped (albeit on a set of double yellow lines) to use
    his hand-held mobile phone. I don't think I have ever seen another BMW
    driver actually stop to make a mobile phone call, even when using a
    hand-held phone!

    By the way, with reference to Peter Hendy's comments implying that
    cyclists endangered by bus drivers have no right to complain because
    some other cyclists run red lights perhaps a complaint should be sent
    to him also asking if he believes that women who are attacked have no
    right to complain because some other women shoplift!

    It might also be worth pointing out to him that bus drivers are also
    habitual red light jumpers. (And of course in terms of sheer numbers
    many, many more drivers run red lights than do cyclists). According to
    the RAC foundation 25% of cyclists in Glasgow run lights and in some
    locations in London as many as 50% of cyclists do. However, 20% of
    drivers were also found to run the lights on amber or within 3 seconds
    of it changing to red with another 10% running a light after it has
    been red for 3 seconds or more with 20% of buses also running red
    lights. Given the number of cars on the road as compared to cyclists it
    is clear which user group commits the greatest total number of
    offences. Apparently over 5 months the limited number of red-light
    cameras in London (just 287) detected 48,000 offences! (And of course a
    red-light running cyclist might be danger to themselves but someone
    running a red light in a bus or car poses a very substantial risk to
    others).

  12. Chris Eilbeck said:


    http://www.hybrids.org.uk/bmw1.jpg
    http://www.hybrids.org.uk/bmw2.jpg

    I know a lot of people can't stand BMW drivers in the first place but
    we're not all as inconsiderate as these two [censored].

    Even in a brand new BMW you cannot necessarily choose where you break
    down. The fact that a considerate fellow motorist stopped to offer
    assistance, on an obviously deserted road, hardly proves anything -
    except perhaps to those desperately looking for something ;-)

    --
    Matt B

  13. Quoted message said:

    'I know a lot of people can't stand BMW drivers in the first place but
    we're not all as inconsiderate as these two [censored].'

    I have certainly found that many BMW drivers (along with 4x4
    drivers) are amongst the most arrogant and inconsiderate on the
    road, but I can't really see the issue here. One looks as though it
    shows a BMW driver who has stopped (albeit on a set of double yellow
    lines) to use his hand-held mobile phone. I don't think I have ever
    seen another BMW driver actually stop to make a mobile phone call,
    even when using a hand-held phone!

    Yes, the first one drove past the car park, turned round and parked on
    the double yellows deliberately rather than in the large, empty car
    park. He made the call after he stopped and bought a drink. The
    second chose to block to the road completely.

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, with reference to Peter Hendy's comments implying that
    cyclists endangered by bus drivers have no right to complain because
    some other cyclists run red lights perhaps a complaint should be sent
    to him also asking if he believes that women who are attacked have no
    right to complain because some other women shoplift!

    I'm sure bigger boys would have made him say that or he might have
    left his real speech at home and his mam said ...

    Chris
    --
    Chris Eilbeck

  14. Chris Eilbeck said:
    Quoted message said:

    'I know a lot of people can't stand BMW drivers in the first place but
    we're not all as inconsiderate as these two [censored].'

    I have certainly found that many BMW drivers (along with 4x4
    drivers) are amongst the most arrogant and inconsiderate on the
    road, but I can't really see the issue here. One looks as though it
    shows a BMW driver who has stopped (albeit on a set of double yellow
    lines) to use his hand-held mobile phone. I don't think I have ever
    seen another BMW driver actually stop to make a mobile phone call,
    even when using a hand-held phone!

    Yes, the first one drove past the car park, turned round and parked on
    the double yellows deliberately rather than in the large, empty car
    park. He made the call after he stopped and bought a drink. The
    second chose to block to the road completely.

    If no one needed to get past, was the road blocked? It's not as if he
    had parked there (unlike the first one)

    ...d

  15. Matt B said:
    Chris Eilbeck said:

    http://www.hybrids.org.uk/bmw1.jpg
    http://www.hybrids.org.uk/bmw2.jpg
    I know a lot of people can't stand BMW drivers in the first place but
    we're not all as inconsiderate as these two [censored].

    Even in a brand new BMW you cannot necessarily choose where you break
    down. The fact that a considerate fellow motorist stopped to offer
    assistance, on an obviously deserted road, hardly proves anything -
    except perhaps to those desperately looking for something ;-)

    Dood, I was sat on a wall watching this. There was no breaking down,
    there was no running out of fuel, there was no consideration for
    anyone else. The bloke stopped on the double yellows, rang his
    girlfriend who came along and parked so as to block the road entirely
    before someone else came along and they realised that maybe they
    should park in the carpark which was almost empty at the time.

    Chris
    --
    Chris Eilbeck

  16. David Martin said:

    If no one needed to get past, was the road blocked? It's not as if he
    had parked there (unlike the first one)

    Pedantically, morally, logically, emotionally, and Blake'ssevenCally, I
    don't know.

    However, legally, the road was prima facie obstructed; an obstruction
    doesn't have to be completely preventing passage.

    R.

  17. elyob said:

    What's the best way to make a complaint about a london bus driver, so that
    he *will* get severly penalised? B*st*rd cut two of us up. He actually came
    to a stop next to us at the bus stop. I had millimetres to spare and we were
    both reasonbly moving (about 13mph). The bloke was unapologetic and was
    giving a fairly animated display of what he thought about us.

    I had a camera and have a photo of the front of the bus with the time,
    location and reasonable picture of this guy.

    I swear my number was too close to up than for my liking.


    A technique which worked for one guy was to sit on the road in front of
    the bus until an inspector arrived.

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] writes

    Quoted message said:

    offences. Apparently over 5 months the limited number of red-light
    cameras in London (just 287) detected 48,000 offences!

    Is there a source for this?

    --
    congokid
    Eating out in London? Read my tips...
    http://congokid.com

  19. Chris Eilbeck said:
    Matt B said:
    Chris Eilbeck said:

    http://www.hybrids.org.uk/bmw1.jpg
    http://www.hybrids.org.uk/bmw2.jpg
    I know a lot of people can't stand BMW drivers in the first place


    but >> we're not all as inconsiderate as these two [censored].

    Quoted message said:


    Even in a brand new BMW you cannot necessarily choose where you
    break down. The fact that a considerate fellow motorist stopped to
    offer assistance, on an obviously deserted road, hardly proves
    anything - except perhaps to those desperately looking for
    something ;-)

    Dood, I was sat on a wall watching this. There was no breaking down,
    there was no running out of fuel, there was no consideration for
    anyone else. The bloke stopped on the double yellows, rang his
    girlfriend who came along and parked so as to block the road entirely
    before someone else came along and they realised that maybe they
    should park in the carpark which was almost empty at the time.

    "Never put down to malice that which can be explained by sheer
    stupidity."

    --
    Mike

  20. 'Apparently over 5 months the limited number of red-light cameras in
    London (just 287) detected 48,000 offences!'

    '...Is there a source for this?'

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3723726.stm

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