Luna wrote:
:: In article <[email hidden]>,
:: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Luna wrote:
::::: So, I got down to 150, and got complacent again. Low-carb eating
::::: and moderate exercise were enough to get me there without
::::: consciously limiting how much I ate, but to lose any more would
::::: involve eating less. Less than what? Less than the amount
::::: required to not be hungry. Or exercising more. How much more?
::::: Enough so that it feels like a burden and it's not fun anymore.
:::::
::::: So, I looked at the mental scale again. Since I no longer felt
::::: any ill health effects from being overweight, that motivation was
::::: gone. I acknowledged it's likely that once I do reach goal
::::: weight, I'd be able to notice health benefits like even more
::::: energy, but I did have enough energy to get through my day
::::: without needing a nap.
:::
::: This comment confuses me. If I'm sleepy, then how much energy I
::: have makes no difference, I'm sleepy.
::
:: Yeah, well I was sleeping 12+ hours a night, and still tired. Go
:: fig.
Maybe you don't rest well?
::
:::
::: If I lack energy, usually I need some food and maybe carbs, but not
::: sleep.
:::
:::
::: So my
::::: main motivation to lose more would have to be appearance based,
::::: which most likely ain't gonna do it.
:::
::: Why? It seems like an excellent motivation to me.
::
:: I guess I don't care as much about my appearance as you do about
:: yours.
Perhaps. Maybe I need to worry about mine more than you do. In any case,
work on that!
::
::
:::
::::: I'd have to find some other
::::: way to be happy about being hungry and/or doing distasteful
::::: amounts of exercise.
:::
::: Which do you like least? I find it is easier to be hungry than to
::: do lots and lots of exercise that i don't like. You can learn to be
::: hungry and you can learn to do lots and lots of exercise, but that
::: exercise takes extra time, but being hungry actually frees up time.
::
:: I don't know. I pretty much hate both.
That's sad.
::
::
:::
:::::
::::: I put the whole matter on hold and concentrated on quitting
::::: smoking instead. In the process of doing that, I gained 15
::::: pounds, back up to 165. Lightbulb moment! Epiphany! When I was
::::: 165 on the way _down_ I thought I looked and felt fine. But, 150
::::: was soooo much better. Which is concrete, solid evidence (in my
::::: mind anyway) that 135 will be even better, and yes the hunger and
::::: added exercise _will_ be worth it.
:::
::: Yeah...you will feel worse going back up to a weight that you
::: perviously felt good at when coming down. I think it is partly
::: gravity at play here. In addition, you feel better in clothes that
::: don't feel tight and if you exercise, you really notice the extra
::: weight and the extra volume of space that you occupy when gaining.
:::
:::::
::::: That being said, I am still going to wait until my lingering cough
::::: and congestion are gone before I go back to working out, but my
::::: eating has returned to "normal" this week, meaning what it was
::::: before I quit smoking. No cheats all this week, so far all
::::: low-carb foods. And I'm girding myself for portion control
::::: starting next week. I'm sick of being stuck in limbo and not
::::: living up to my potential. I'm turning 30 in October, and I'm
::::: going to start my 30's at goal weight and I'm never going back.
:::
::: Yes...getting your eating under control is the most important
::: thing, IMO. Set it so that you lose weight without exercise (say at
::: 1 lb per week). then use exercise to speed that up to 2 lbs per
::: week. Obviously, the lighter you are the harder it will be to do,
::: but I think that sometimes you really have to drive hard to make
::: those last bits of progress. And since it's only for a limited
::: amount of time, it should be possible to really push hard to get
::: the rate of loss up.
::
:: What? It's not for a limited amount of time. If I start eating more
:: or exercising less, I'll gain it back.
My..my...I was taking about pushing hard to lose that extra weight at a fast
rate. To get weight loss, you need to maintain a deficit..the greater the
deficit, the greater the rate of loss. So, if you maintain the deficit for
a limited time by driving hard, then you're hungry and exercising all the
time, to maintain that rate. But once you get to a weight/size/body
composition you like, you then find maintenance for where you are. You
*can*, at that point, eat more and/or exercise less than you were to
maintain. But you can't just go back to piggin out like you did at 200+
pounds. The notion that you have to keep doing *exactly* what you were
doing is just false. You will have to eat to your new weight and body
(without a weight loss rate) and it is a good idea to continue to exercise.
But the fact of the matter is if you simply eat right you could even quit
exercising.
I don't know why this seems to hard to fathom.
::
::: Once you get there you can back off some, but, as you
::: know, you won't be able to revert back old ways.
::
::
:: Which contradicts what you said about it being for a limited amount
:: of time.
Nonsense...you just failed to understand what I was saying. geezz...
:: Realistically, I know I won't be able to devote enough
:: time to exercise to allow myself to eat as much as I want.
Learn to want less, then.
Life
:: stuff comes up. So, I'll have to make the biggest change in my
:: eating. Which means I need to get used to the idea of being hungry.
:: For the rest of my life. Or stay fat. Ugh.
::
right.
