Colour Question?

Simon Brooke <[email hidden]>typed

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Tony Raven said:

I agree. Yellow is the new black. These fashion judgements are

critical

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in getting a bike.

Fashion is all very well, but RED bikes go FASTER, and that is 100%
FACT, backed up by the laws of physics.

But if it's a touring bike the only colour that will do is British
Racing Green.

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Dear boy!

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Black is the /only/ colour for a /gentleman's/ bicycle.

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I'd even go so far as to say it's the new Black.

Black is the /only/ and /original/ black! Accept no substitutes or
supposed 'improvements'! It's the only shade you'll be able to touch up
reliably after a year or two.

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Henry Ford

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20 replies how exciting is thaT!!

Thank you all very much for taking the time to type... Chap in Bolton,
Lancashire is smiling. Based on the feedback I made a couple of phone calls
1st place wanted £250 to strip down, service, spray and build up my bike.
Next one wanted £150 for the same thing (both were excluding major parts if
required).

I thought about yellow, also thought about black (but there are appears to
be hundreds of them) quite liked a burnt orange to match my Rabobank shirt.

Started to get quite excited about multiple colours (light at the front,
dark at the back) From your remarks you appear to prefer a single colour
maybe?

Not sure about transfers don't really want to replace originals, Penny for
the teams thoughts?

Keep the mails rolling in!

Ian

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Hi all

I wonder if I could tap you up for some advice?

I've just bought my 11yr old daughter a giant OCR which being new puts
mine to shame....

Starting to hint to my wife that I might want a new bike was not at all
successful so I started to think what could I do with mine to make me more
happy with it!

First action was to clean it which I did and it highlighted all its little
scratches from cable rubs etc. and made me more want to change it.

I then started to think about a respray because the bike itself is very
good imho (aluminium, carbon forks, Ultegra equipped etc.).

This is where I want your help have you ever had a bike resprayed, how
much does it cost, what colours do people go for (looked at a website
talked about proteam colours now there's a thought)

My bike is 4 years old is currently red but would really appreciate your
thoughts on colours?

Many thanks

Ian

Below is an extract from a chap in Skelmersdale website not sure if its
good value etc.

ALL DESIGNS AND COLOUR SCHEMES CAN BE CARRIED OUT UPON REQUEST, INCLUDING
TEAM COLOURS SUCH AS MOTOROLA, CARRERA ETC.

Frame and forks -------------------- Plain Enamel £55
Frame and forks --------------------- Metallic &Flamboyant £60
Additional Colour £9:50
Head tube panelfaded £8:50
Seat tube & down tube panel £10 (each)

Hotdog said:

20 replies how exciting is thaT!!

Thank you all very much for taking the time to type... Chap in Bolton,
Lancashire is smiling. Based on the feedback I made a couple of phone calls
1st place wanted £250 to strip down, service, spray and build up my bike.
Next one wanted £150 for the same thing (both were excluding major parts if
required).

I thought about yellow, also thought about black (but there are appears to
be hundreds of them) quite liked a burnt orange to match my Rabobank shirt.

Started to get quite excited about multiple colours (light at the front,
dark at the back) From your remarks you appear to prefer a single colour
maybe?

Not sure about transfers don't really want to replace originals, Penny for
the teams thoughts?

If you mean tubing stickers (531 etc) then do get them replaced. A frame
builder will do it for you, a general purpose powder coater ill not and
it then requires a letter (yes, real paper with a stamp) to Reynolds
giving details of the bike and politely requesting replacements.

If you can strip down the bike yourself, then a powder coater will be
cheaper and potentially as good.

FWIW my bike was pillar box red and is now holographic black (black with
holographic sparkly bits in) and a really tacky Carbon lookalike
chainstay protector sticker.

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davek said:

Tony Raven said:

I agree. Yellow is the new black. These fashion judgements are
critical in getting a bike.

Fashion is all very well, but RED bikes go FASTER, and that is 100%
FACT, backed up by the laws of physics.

SHURELY black at the front and silver at the back?

tom

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Helen Deborah Vecht said:

It's the only shade you'll be able to touch up
reliably after a year or two.

My bike doesn't want anyone touching it up thank you!

Tony

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Not sure about transfers don't really want to replace originals, Penny
for the teams thoughts?

If the frame was built by a small, specialist builder, it might be
courteous to stick his name back on. Otherwise, why bother with any? If
you must, stick your name on. If you stick your postcode on as well it
might be an effective thief deterrent.

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;; Life would be much easier if I had the source code.

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FWIW my bike was pillar box red and is now holographic black (black
with holographic sparkly bits in) and a really tacky Carbon lookalike
chainstay protector sticker.

OK, where does one get a good, light chainstay protector that doesn't
look tacky? I ask because my really really carbon bike, which has clear
finish on its chainstays (and pretty much everywhere else) so that you
can see the weave, has no chainstay protector and I'm concerned about
the finish getting chipped. A faux-carbon protector would be just so
tacky it doesn't bear thinking about. A chrome one would look
completely out of place. Ideally what I need is either plain black or
transparent - oh, and, incidentally, it needs to be as light as
possible. I suppose I could just cut one out of a scrap of signwriter's
vinyl... but has anyone any better suggestion?

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On 22/3/05 8:26 am, in article
[email hidden], "Simon Brooke"

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in message <[email hidden]>, David Martin

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FWIW my bike was pillar box red and is now holographic black (black
with holographic sparkly bits in) and a really tacky Carbon lookalike
chainstay protector sticker.

OK, where does one get a good, light chainstay protector that doesn't
look tacky? I ask because my really really carbon bike, which has clear
finish on its chainstays (and pretty much everywhere else) so that you
can see the weave, has no chainstay protector and I'm concerned about
the finish getting chipped. A faux-carbon protector would be just so
tacky it doesn't bear thinking about. A chrome one would look
completely out of place. Ideally what I need is either plain black or
transparent - oh, and, incidentally, it needs to be as light as
possible. I suppose I could just cut one out of a scrap of signwriter's
vinyl... but has anyone any better suggestion?

Clear vinyl. Anything else looks tacky (except plain black). I have a black
bike with a faux carbon chainstay protector ant it doesn't look too tacky.
No worse than the engine, in any case.

...d

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Sometimes black bikes go faster, except when they don't. This, sadly, does
not include Mr. Fleming's NoCom :-(

Are we to infer that Cosimo has met his match?

Guy
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simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:26:48 -0000, "Dave Larrington"
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Sometimes black bikes go faster, except when they don't. This,
sadly, does not include Mr. Fleming's NoCom :-(

Are we to infer that Cosimo has met his match?

It's been bad enough for the past three years, with firstly Young Master
Robert's Baron & Hachi and latterly the RatRacers of Mr Fleming and Mr
Setter, but while I could just about keep up with the latter two for most of
the time, the NoCom is a Different Prospect Altogether. Especially as Mr
Fleming has, it seems, been indulging in the "T" word, though I supposed
this is forgivable as he's part of the Velokraft team for RAAM this year.
Billy soy.

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World Domination?
Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

Simon Brooke said:

Black is the /only/ colour for a /gentleman's/ bicycle.

My [vintage] Raleigh Royal is in BRG. The forks are top-half painted,
bottom-half chrome finish, brakes are chrome finish, headset is chrome
finish, new mudguards are "chromoplastic"... Saddle is a black Brooks
but I might transfer that to another bike and get a replacement in
honey. I think it is a very handsome bike indeed, fit for any
gentleman.

OK, so the frame really needs a respray - I didn't used to treat the
bike with the respect it deserves - but once it is done (when I can
afford to get it done properly with all the original transfers
replaced) it will probably be the most handsome bicycle in christendom.
I should probably also replace the cable outers with something more
appropriate that the matt silver (can you get them BRG?). Might also
replace the black bar tape next time it needs doing with something in a
"natural" cork type colour.

I'm sure some bikes look good in black - ultra-lightweight handbuilt
carbon racers being a prime candidate - but BRG with lots of shiny
chrome is the only colour scheme that will do for this particular
bicycle.

One of my cycling companions got his new DeRosa in purple, of all
colours. He has finished it with red bar tape, red saddle, red cabling
and red pedals. It is a bit of an eyesore, to put it mildly.

d.

Tony Raven <[email hidden]>typed

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Helen Deborah Vecht said:

It's the only shade you'll be able to touch up
reliably after a year or two.

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My bike doesn't want anyone touching it up thank you!

Bike thrive on gentle feminine carresses but I'll leave yours alone...

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Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
Edgware.

Simon Brooke <[email hidden]>typed

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If the frame was built by a small, specialist builder, it might be
courteous to stick his name back on. Otherwise, why bother with any? If
you must, stick your name on. If you stick your postcode on as well it
might be an effective thief deterrent.

I have never had a postcoded bike returned...

I've had at least two locked, coded bikes stolen, on separate occasions,
and reported their theft to Police every time. They were marked as coded
too.

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Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
Edgware.

Simon Brooke said:

OK, where does one get a good, light chainstay protector that doesn't
look tacky? I ask because my really really carbon bike, which has clear
finish on its chainstays (and pretty much everywhere else) so that you
can see the weave, has no chainstay protector and I'm concerned about
the finish getting chipped. A faux-carbon protector would be just so
tacky it doesn't bear thinking about. A chrome one would look
completely out of place. Ideally what I need is either plain black or
transparent - oh, and, incidentally, it needs to be as light as
possible. I suppose I could just cut one out of a scrap of signwriter's
vinyl... but has anyone any better suggestion?

A lightbulb went on over my head last night, as I finished repairing a
bureau. In one of the drawers was a roll of self adhesive vinyl used
for covering books, to keep the covers looking nice. Just the job for
your carbon chain stay - transparent, cheap, self adhesive. Try WH
Smug, or other stationers.

Tim

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MartinM wrote:

> Yellow bikes go faster (except both of mine)

Sometimes black bikes go faster, except when they don't.
This, sadly, does not include Mr. Fleming's NoCom :-(

So the exit poll so far has:

Red 1
British Racing Green 2
Orange 1
Black 2
Belgian Flag (simonb)1

and by a long chalk;

Yellow 5

come on xanthophiles, let's make it a landslide!

My Rockhopper is yellow, my Windcheetah is metallic and yellow, my Marin is
two tone orange and my road bike and unicycle are both silver. Helens
Rockhopper is yellow, oldest son has a yellow bike and youngest son has a
red bike.

Yellow is probably my favourite colour.

Just to try and confuse (colour?) the matter more, my old blue (road)
bike is still faster than my newish black (hybrid hack) bike which is
faster than my newer blue (mountain) bike which is faster than my old
black (mountain) bike.

SWMBO doesn't get it either. Using this thread as my reasoned seasoned
source of wisdom, I can now approach the subject of replacing the old
blue bike with a yellow bike - you'll be able to tell them apart, and
look, it'll goes faster!

Stross

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A lightbulb went on over my head last night, as I finished repairing a
bureau. In one of the drawers was a roll of self adhesive vinyl used
for covering books, to keep the covers looking nice. Just the job for
your carbon chain stay - transparent, cheap, self adhesive. Try WH
Smug, or other stationers.

Can't you get patterned versions too? Simon's Dolan would look great with a
nice gingham chainstay, or possibly something with little ducks on?

cheers,
clive

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[email hidden], "Clive George"

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Can't you get patterned versions too? Simon's Dolan would look great with a
nice gingham chainstay, or possibly something with little ducks on?

You owe me a keyboard..

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>> Yellow bikes go faster (except both of mine)
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> Sometimes black bikes go faster, except when they don't.
> This, sadly, does not include Mr. Fleming's NoCom :-(

So the exit poll so far has:

Red 1
British Racing Green 2
Orange 1
Black 2
Belgian Flag (simonb)1

and by a long chalk;

Yellow 5

come on xanthophiles, let's make it a landslide!

My Rockhopper is yellow, my Windcheetah is metallic and yellow, my Marin

is

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two tone orange and my road bike and unicycle are both silver. Helens
Rockhopper is yellow, oldest son has a yellow bike and youngest son has

a

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red bike.

Yellow is probably my favourite colour.

Just to try and confuse (colour?) the matter more, my old blue (road)
bike is still faster than my newish black (hybrid hack) bike which is
faster than my newer blue (mountain) bike which is faster than my old
black (mountain) bike.

SWMBO doesn't get it either. Using this thread as my reasoned seasoned
source of wisdom, I can now approach the subject of replacing the old
blue bike with a yellow bike - you'll be able to tell them apart, and
look, it'll goes faster!

Stross

I think the tactic with getting bikes past SWMBO's is to buy one that looks
exactly like the old one (same colour would do with some) and make sure she
never sees both together ;-)

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A lightbulb went on over my head last night, as I finished repairing
a bureau. In one of the drawers was a roll of self adhesive vinyl
used for covering books, to keep the covers looking nice. Just the
job for your carbon chain stay - transparent, cheap, self adhesive.
Try WH Smug, or other stationers.

Can't you get patterned versions too? Simon's Dolan would look great
with a nice gingham chainstay, or possibly something with little
ducks on?

Cloff!

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Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
World Domination?
Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

Tony Raven said:

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yellow

I agree. Yellow is the new black. These fashion judgements are critical
in getting a bike.

Tony ;-)

I vote yellow, too!

I didn't want my bike to be yellow. I wanted a nice deep blue or
something. But not yellow.

I love it's yellowness now. It's bright. It means my yellow cycling
tops aren't just bright yellow for visibility, they match the bike too.
And I never wear yellow - it's just too bright, loud, brash. Fade
into the background colours are me... but...

Yellow (with black bits). Wasp colours. I like to think there's a
subconcious reaction deep inside other road users's brains when they see
that combination - probably less that and more 'oh my god it's a
fatbirdonnabike in YELLOW!' reaction, but hey ;-)

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Velvet