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  1. Hi everyone,

    I'm currently enrolled in college and I want to finally learn how to cook
    for myself. I can only handle the basics: boiling ramen noodles,
    scrambling eggs, making a ham and cheese sandwich. I've always been
    meaning to enter the realm of actual cooking, but I'm either too busy or
    lazy...

    My question: what are some of the easier dishes to make, especially for
    someone with no experience such as myself? I'm thinking something without
    too many steps or ingredients, but is actually something to be proud of.
    And more importantly, something that would encourage me to dig deeper into
    cooking.

    Thanks for any help. I hope that I can at least say that I've cooked a
    decent dish before I graduate.

    -Patrick R.
    UC Berkeley

  2. Patrick Rodriguez said:

    Hi everyone,

    I'm currently enrolled in college and I want to finally learn how to
    cook for myself. I can only handle the basics: boiling ramen noodles,
    scrambling eggs, making a ham and cheese sandwich. I've always been
    meaning to enter the realm of actual cooking, but I'm either too busy
    or lazy...

    My question: what are some of the easier dishes to make, especially
    for someone with no experience such as myself? I'm thinking something
    without too many steps or ingredients, but is actually something to
    be proud of. And more importantly, something that would encourage me
    to dig deeper into cooking.

    Thanks for any help. I hope that I can at least say that I've cooked a
    decent dish before I graduate.

    -Patrick R.
    UC Berkeley

    This is admirable but I need more info, Patrick. What cooking facilities do
    you have available? Are you living in a dorm or in a place with a full
    kitchen - that is, stovetop and oven? Microwave? Are you limited to a
    cookplate? Or a cookplate and a toaster oven? Do you have a full set of
    pots & pans (including baking dishes) or just a pot and a skillet?

    What do you like to eat? What sort of "dish" would you like to prepare?
    Are you vegetarian? Do you want to learn about 'ethnic' cooking, such as
    Mexican, Italian, Asian? Or just some good ol' U.S. "home cooking" like
    meatloaf and mashed potatoes?

    Jill

  3. No matter what you end up cooking, it would help to have a copy of "Joy of
    Cooking". Besides recipes, it's got general overviews of a multitude of
    ingredients which will teach you to select, use and store things you may not
    familiar with. For a new cook, the book's almost worthwhile for those things
    alone.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Patrick Rodriguez said:

    Hi everyone,

    I'm currently enrolled in college and I want to finally learn how to cook
    for myself. I can only handle the basics: boiling ramen noodles,
    scrambling eggs, making a ham and cheese sandwich. I've always been
    meaning to enter the realm of actual cooking, but I'm either too busy or
    lazy...

    My question: what are some of the easier dishes to make, especially for
    someone with no experience such as myself? I'm thinking something without
    too many steps or ingredients, but is actually something to be proud of.
    And more importantly, something that would encourage me to dig deeper into
    cooking.

    Thanks for any help. I hope that I can at least say that I've cooked a
    decent dish before I graduate.

    -Patrick R.
    UC Berkeley

    Stir fry. :-)
    There are fresh frozen veggie mixes ready to go that make it easier.
    Add sliced meat and some cocktail shrimp and you are good to go!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  5. "Patrick Rodriguez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi everyone,

    I'm currently enrolled in college and I want to finally learn how to cook
    for myself. I can only handle the basics: boiling ramen noodles,
    scrambling eggs, making a ham and cheese sandwich. I've always been
    meaning to enter the realm of actual cooking, but I'm either too busy or
    lazy...

    My question: what are some of the easier dishes to make, especially for
    someone with no experience such as myself? I'm thinking something without
    too many steps or ingredients, but is actually something to be proud of.
    And more importantly, something that would encourage me to dig deeper into
    cooking.

    Thanks for any help. I hope that I can at least say that I've cooked a
    decent dish before I graduate.

    Brings back memories - I had to cook or starve.

    My suggestions-
    First, get a basic cookbook like Betty Crocker - nothing fancy. You look
    up a lot of stuff even after years of cooking.
    Second, get grounded in WORKING WITH the basics, which means sauces and
    noodles/rice and meat/fish. Its a lot easier than you think, since most of
    that cooking uses the basic mix (see below) If you can cook ramen, you can
    cook any noodle or rice (instructions are on the packages).
    The frying, boiling, and steaming are straightforward actions- you can't
    screw it up too badly if you follow the cookbook - and these ingredients and
    methods have easy tells, like smoke and black, or pale floppy veggies. An
    iron pan or a grill and beer forgives a lot of sins.

    two things to get up to speed in an hour.

    1)- first 30 minutes:
    Make a medium white sauce a couple times and don't be afraid to toss the
    result. Gives a sense of what gives, teaches you that the heat in the food
    has to come thru the pan and it doesn't come thru at your speed when you
    turn up the heat, it comes thru at its speed (WARNING -milk tends to blacken
    the bottom of the pan of sloppy stirrers and impatient cooks).
    White sauce comes in thin, medium, thick, and croquette. It is the base
    for gravy, hot dishes, "puddings", etc. You can quickly cover a lot of
    mistakes by adding them in emergencies, they are bases for your own flavored
    sauces, you get an early feel for the chemistry, and it lets loose some
    creativity.
    They all are basically liquid (cup), fat (tablespoon - tbs) , and
    thickener (tbs). The easy one is white sauce, in 1-1-1 (thin), 1-2-2
    (medium), 1-3-3 (thick), and 1-4-4 (croquette) ratios, i.e., 1 cup milk
    added to 1, or 2 or 3 or 4 tbs each of flour and butter.
    Heat the butter in a pan over medium heat, add flour and heat it, then
    add milk "slowly and rapidly" to keep the temp up so you don't get a cool
    flour-milk mix (which makes lumps) - that is, a little milk in will make the
    mix a lump, adding a bit more to the heated lump makes a looser lump, a bit
    more to the heated loose lump makes a slurry, etc.
    Variations -Brown the butter for a different flavor, fry onions in the
    butter for an onion sauce, add pepper for a pepper sauce, add nutmeg for a
    scandinavian sauce, etc., etc.
    Save the last batch.

    2) Second 30 minutes -
    Fry a pound (maybe two cups) of hamburger to crumble in half cup
    increments - don't use lean until you have experience on cooking lean meat -
    drain off the fat instead after cooking.
    Start with a cold pan and oil and meat, then remove it and set it aside
    and put the next half-cup into the heated pan, then at a higher and lower
    heat. Use half cups. Fry/cook/saute each of that amount using the different
    heats and look at the result.

    3) boil some noodles for 3-10 minutes. Or make some toast for 2 minutes. Or
    boil some rice for 20 minutes. Or if you have 45 minutes, boil some
    potatoes.

    Now that you have a feel for two of the basic processes of cooking - you
    now can flavor the white sauce before you add it to the meat - pick your
    flavor and add it to the sauce first - onion? pepper? nutmeg? canned drained
    tomato pieces? canned mushrooms? Mix well.
    Pour it over the drained noodles/whatever - serve with a sprinkle of
    paprika or parsley or whatever on top.

    You can vary this basic approach and ingredients to get stroganoff to SOS
    to french sauces. Use meats/other from beef tips to veal to chicken to ham
    to dried beef to mushrooms to onions to spam to combos of them all . Oils
    from butter to beef fat to chicken fat to flavored veggie oils. Liquids
    from milk to water-wine to coffee.

    4) cook a few breakfasts of eggs, toast, coffee, and bacon. It teaches
    timing and multi-tasking.

    It's a lot like swimming - you try a basic stroke, and then work at it until
    first you don't drown, then you work at it some more so you can stay afloat
    and actually move, and then after a fair amount of practicc, you can stay in
    the lanes and move pretty fast. Same stroke as ever and its the same one we
    all use, its just that after a bit of practice, YOU are able to use it

    fwiw.

    Quoted message said:


    -Patrick R.
    UC Berkeley

  6. Very simple roast chicken.

    First, go out and buy a probe thermometer. It will allow you to cook
    many things perfectly the first time.

    First and a half, turn on the oven to 350 degrees.

    Second. get a whole chicken. Unwrap it. Look under the skin at both
    ends and remove anything that doesn't look like it is attached (hearts,
    livers, necks, packets of sauce). While you are doing this, remove any
    excess chunks of fat. Rinse the chicken inside and out, and pat dry
    with a paper towel. Let the chicken air dry for a few minutes.

    Third, find some sort of roasting pan. You can use the aluminum kind
    from the grocery store. Coarsely cut up some onions, carrots, and/or
    cellery and mound this up in the bottom of the pan. Put mister chicken
    on the pile of vegetables, breast side up (the legs will be pointing
    up).

    Fourth, rub the skin of the chicken with olive oil (or any cooking oil)
    and sprinkle with ~ 1 tsp of salt. Insert the probe thermometer into
    the thickest part of the breast. Make sure that you don't hit any bones

    Fifth, put the pan into the oven, and roast the chicken until the
    thermometer tells you it is 165 degrees F. If you are concerned about
    the placement of the thermometer, you can move it in and out a bit to
    find the coolest spot.

    Sixth. Take the chicken out of the oven and let it rest 10 minutes
    before eating.

    You can make roast chicken as simple or as fancy as you want, and
    while the chicken is cooking, you have plenty of time to make salad
    and/or
    vegetables to accompany your meal.

  7. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Very simple roast chicken.

    First, go out and buy a probe thermometer. It will allow you to cook
    many things perfectly the first time.

    First and a half, turn on the oven to 350 degrees.

    Second. get a whole chicken. Unwrap it. Look under the skin at both
    ends and remove anything that doesn't look like it is attached (hearts,
    livers, necks, packets of sauce).

    I don't know about the chickens in your stores, but here, the loose parts
    are inside the skeleton, not under the skin.

  8. Yes but (at least here) covering the skeleton is a big giant flap of
    loose skin and fat so they
    can get an extra pound of profit out of me.

    Point taken. Look under the big flap of loose skin in the front of the
    birdy, and take a
    look up its back end for extraneous stuff before cooking your bird.

  9. Patrick Rodriguez said:

    My question: what are some of the easier dishes to make, especially for
    someone with no experience such as myself? I'm thinking something without
    too many steps or ingredients, but is actually something to be proud of.
    And more importantly, something that would encourage me to dig deeper into
    cooking.

    Some links from the rec.food.cooking FAQ:

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://wywahoos.org/wahoos/cookbook/contents.htm
    "Introduction to Cooking for Graduate Students and Other First Time
    Kitchen Dwellers."

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/food/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    Victor

  10. On Fri 21 Oct 2005 02:02:14a, Patrick Rodriguez wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Hi everyone,

    I'm currently enrolled in college and I want to finally learn how to
    cook for myself. I can only handle the basics: boiling ramen noodles,
    scrambling eggs, making a ham and cheese sandwich. I've always been
    meaning to enter the realm of actual cooking, but I'm either too busy or
    lazy...

    My question: what are some of the easier dishes to make, especially for
    someone with no experience such as myself? I'm thinking something
    without too many steps or ingredients, but is actually something to be
    proud of. And more importantly, something that would encourage me to dig
    deeper into cooking.

    Thanks for any help. I hope that I can at least say that I've cooked a
    decent dish before I graduate.

    -Patrick R.
    UC Berkeley

    Here's an assortment of books on Amazon that will get you started.

    http://tinyurl.com/blu4v

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________

    http://tinypic.com/eikz78.jpg

    Meet Mr. Bailey

  11. Victor Sack said:
    Patrick Rodriguez said:

    My question: what are some of the easier dishes to make, especially
    for someone with no experience such as myself? I'm thinking
    something without too many steps or ingredients, but is actually
    something to be proud of. And more importantly, something that
    would encourage me to dig deeper into cooking.

    Some links from the rec.food.cooking FAQ:

    * http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/
    Cooking guide for beginner cooks.

    * http://wywahoos.org/wahoos/cookbook/contents.htm
    "Introduction to Cooking for Graduate Students and Other First
    Time Kitchen Dwellers."

    * http://www.azcentral.com/home/food/cooking101/
    Cooking 101.

    Note that cookbooks for children are a step up in difficulty from ones
    for college students. However, the pictures are better. (Note: This
    is not hyperbole.)

    Generally speaking, books for adults who have to learn in a hurry ("I
    know you were hired to teach English, but we need you to teach
    calculus"😉 are simpler than ones for children.

    --
    Dan Goodman
    Journal http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood/
    Clutterers Anonymous unofficial community
    http://www.livejournal.com/community/clutterers_anon/
    Decluttering http://decluttering.blogspot.com
    Predictions and Politics http://dsgood.blogspot.com
    All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies.
    John Arbuthnot (1667-1735), Scottish writer, physician.

  12. A common troll.

    --
    Best
    Greg

    "Patrick Rodriguez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi everyone,

    I'm currently enrolled in college and I want to finally learn how to cook
    for myself. I can only handle the basics: boiling ramen noodles,
    scrambling eggs, making a ham and cheese sandwich. I've always been
    meaning to enter the realm of actual cooking, but I'm either too busy or
    lazy...

    My question: what are some of the easier dishes to make, especially for
    someone with no experience such as myself? I'm thinking something without
    too many steps or ingredients, but is actually something to be proud of.
    And more importantly, something that would encourage me to dig deeper into
    cooking.

    Thanks for any help. I hope that I can at least say that I've cooked a
    decent dish before I graduate.

    -Patrick R.
    UC Berkeley

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Gregory Morrow"

    Quoted message said:

    A common troll.

    --
    Best
    Greg

    I don't think so...
    This is all too common of a request,
    and it's a reasonable one.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  14. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Gregory Morrow"

    Quoted message said:

    A common troll.

    --
    Best
    Greg

    I don't think so...
    This is all too common of a request,
    and it's a reasonable one.
    --
    Om.

    But the folks who ask never come back to read the replies. Why bother to
    reply?

    kili

  15. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Gregory Morrow"

    Quoted message said:

    A common troll.

    --
    Best
    Greg

    I don't think so...
    This is all too common of a request,
    and it's a reasonable one.

    There's another way to look at it: It's laziness, and a special kind that's
    rampant nowadays for some reason. I have some theories which explain this
    disease, but it's too early to elaborate. Not enough coffee yet. But,
    briefly, it involves TV and the internet, and an inability or unwillingness
    to follow printed instructions.

    The OP said "but I'm either too busy or lazy...", and "I hope that I can at
    least say that I've cooked a decent dish before I graduate." Admissions of
    laziness, and total lack of confidence.

    You (and I mean specifically YOU) can probably think of 3 dishes to suggest
    to a new cook, which, if instructions were followed, would turn out fine.
    Example: Apple crisp. Anyone who couldn't successfully make it should
    probably not be operating anything more complicated than an electric
    toothbruth, not to mention a motor vehicle. How difficult is it to go to a
    book store, browse until an interesting book is discovered, take it home,
    and follow the instructions???

  16. "Doug Kanter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Gregory Morrow"

    Quoted message said:

    A common troll.

    --
    Best
    Greg

    I don't think so...
    This is all too common of a request,
    and it's a reasonable one.

    There's another way to look at it: It's laziness, and a special kind


    that's

    Quoted message said:

    rampant nowadays for some reason. I have some theories which explain this
    disease, but it's too early to elaborate. Not enough coffee yet. But,
    briefly, it involves TV and the internet, and an inability or


    unwillingness

    Quoted message said:

    to follow printed instructions.

    The OP said "but I'm either too busy or lazy...", and "I hope that I can


    at

    Quoted message said:

    least say that I've cooked a decent dish before I graduate." Admissions of
    laziness, and total lack of confidence.

    You (and I mean specifically YOU) can probably think of 3 dishes to


    suggest

    Quoted message said:

    to a new cook, which, if instructions were followed, would turn out fine.
    Example: Apple crisp. Anyone who couldn't successfully make it should
    probably not be operating anything more complicated than an electric
    toothbruth, not to mention a motor vehicle.

    Quoted message said:

    How difficult is it to go to a
    book store, browse until an interesting book is discovered, take it home,
    and follow the instructions???

    Sadly, IMHO that is a skill not taught, nor accepted in the age of Rush
    Limbaugh, where The Everyman can use his common sense in brain surgery,
    social engineering, and political discourse - even though he has no
    experience in medicine, he hasn't any concept of social diversity above
    "me-them", nor does he have empathy or recognizes even one of the 13 logical
    fallacies.

    As someone once said, "Common sense is the lazy man's excuse for lack of
    knowledge"

    Do you really believe Ann Coulter goes to a book store, reads it, and
    follows the instructions - any written instructions? She uses her common
    sense, just like Torquemada did.

    Quoted message said:
  17. "hob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Doug Kanter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Gregory Morrow"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > A common troll.
    >
    > --
    > Best
    > Greg

    I don't think so...
    This is all too common of a request,
    and it's a reasonable one.

    There's another way to look at it: It's laziness, and a special kind


    that's

    Quoted message said:

    rampant nowadays for some reason. I have some theories which explain this
    disease, but it's too early to elaborate. Not enough coffee yet. But,
    briefly, it involves TV and the internet, and an inability or


    unwillingness

    Quoted message said:

    to follow printed instructions.

    The OP said "but I'm either too busy or lazy...", and "I hope that I can


    at

    Quoted message said:

    least say that I've cooked a decent dish before I graduate." Admissions
    of
    laziness, and total lack of confidence.

    You (and I mean specifically YOU) can probably think of 3 dishes to


    suggest

    Quoted message said:

    to a new cook, which, if instructions were followed, would turn out fine.
    Example: Apple crisp. Anyone who couldn't successfully make it should
    probably not be operating anything more complicated than an electric
    toothbruth, not to mention a motor vehicle.

    Quoted message said:

    How difficult is it to go to a
    book store, browse until an interesting book is discovered, take it home,
    and follow the instructions???

    Sadly, IMHO that is a skill not taught, nor accepted in the age of Rush
    Limbaugh, where The Everyman can use his common sense in brain surgery,
    social engineering, and political discourse - even though he has no
    experience in medicine, he hasn't any concept of social diversity above
    "me-them", nor does he have empathy or recognizes even one of the 13
    logical
    fallacies.

    Proof of this is the fact that my college roomate and I were able to buy a
    couple of cookbooks and make some pretty good things, using minimal utensils
    and a hot plate. (Illegal hot plates, of course. We had to bribe the R.A.
    with food, and a promise to unplug the hot plate and hide it as soon as it
    cooled down). We asked questions at the cooking supply store, where we found
    a guy who I suspect was amused by two hippies who kept walking in and buying
    tools just to make a particular dish (the right way to buy tools anyway).

    We were clueless, but we managed some miracles.

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    kilikini said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Gregory Morrow"

    Quoted message said:

    A common troll.

    --
    Best
    Greg

    I don't think so...
    This is all too common of a request,
    and it's a reasonable one.
    --
    Om.

    But the folks who ask never come back to read the replies. Why bother to
    reply?

    kili

    Because they are college students? ;-)
    Generally lazy and inconsiderate.

    You are right. Why bother answering them?
    They can google for old threads......

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Doug Kanter said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Gregory Morrow"

    Quoted message said:

    A common troll.

    --
    Best
    Greg

    I don't think so...
    This is all too common of a request,
    and it's a reasonable one.

    There's another way to look at it: It's laziness, and a special kind that's
    rampant nowadays for some reason. I have some theories which explain this
    disease, but it's too early to elaborate. Not enough coffee yet. But,
    briefly, it involves TV and the internet, and an inability or unwillingness
    to follow printed instructions.

    The OP said "but I'm either too busy or lazy...", and "I hope that I can at
    least say that I've cooked a decent dish before I graduate." Admissions of
    laziness, and total lack of confidence.

    You (and I mean specifically YOU) can probably think of 3 dishes to suggest
    to a new cook, which, if instructions were followed, would turn out fine.
    Example: Apple crisp. Anyone who couldn't successfully make it should
    probably not be operating anything more complicated than an electric
    toothbruth, not to mention a motor vehicle. How difficult is it to go to a
    book store, browse until an interesting book is discovered, take it home,
    and follow the instructions???

    Because I've been cooking long enough, I no longer need to steenkin'
    specific, written recipes? ;-)

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    I don't think so...
    This is all too common of a request,
    and it's a reasonable one.

    So do you have any recipes from Europe?

    :-)

    --
    Dan Abel
    [email hidden]
    Petaluma, California, USA

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