Cold Coffee Maker

Dee Randall said:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3DB0000DCYS1/ref%3Dnosim/jwalkassociateA/002-2072856-1218429

Has anyone tried or know the advantages of this coffee maker?
Looks quite interesting to me.
Dee Dee

Go over to alt.coffee where these have been discussed ad naseum. The
only possible reason to use one is to lower the acidity to the lowest
level possible. Their copy says that.

If you want to do this, use a glass container and a large filter
cone/melitta to filter the resulting liquid. Cost - a tenth of this. One
pound of coffee, nine cups of water, overnight. Use the money saved to
buy coffee from a local roaster and get better coffee yet.

One very misleading statement made is about undesirable oils. Got news,
its that oil that moves the flavor around. Not that store bought ground
coffees have that much to begin with.

jim

Dee Randall said:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3DB0000DCYS1/ref%3Dnosim/jwalkas
sociateA/002-2072856-1218429

Has anyone tried or know the advantages of this coffee maker?
Looks quite interesting to me.
Dee Dee

No advantage that I can see. These devices make truly insipid coffee.

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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3DB0000DCYS1/ref%3Dnosim/jwalkassociateA/002-2072856-1218429

Has anyone tried or know the advantages of this coffee maker?
Looks quite interesting to me.
Dee Dee

My parents had one of these -- the old ones, that is -- when I was a kid. I
think they only used it once or twice, and I have no idea where they got it
or why. They weren't they types to go for gadgets. Maybe someone gave it to
them. As a kid, I was fascinated by it. Maybe it reminded me of some mad
scientist experiment.

So now I have the thing, and I think I used it once. I don't remember if the
taste was any better or worse than regular coffee, but I must not have been
overwhelmed if I didn't make another batch right away.

The advantage I can see is if you regularly need odd amounts of coffee. Like
if you normally need just one or two cups, but then you might have times
when you need lots of coffee for entertaining, and you'd need several pots
to serve everyone. And/or if everyone in the house wants different strengths
of coffee. With the liquid stuff, you can make as much as you need, the
strengths you need. I suppose it would be good for iced coffee, too, since
it's already cold. Or if you tend to use coffee in recipes.

Oddly enough, I can see that it might be useful for someone who doesn't use
a lot of coffee and doesn't want a coffeemaker sitting around, but who
doesn't want to serve instant coffee. So they could make a batch, freeze the
stuff in ice cube trays, and be ready for coffee any time.

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Quoted message said:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3DB0000DCYS1/ref%3Dnosim/jwalkassociateA/002-2072856-1218429

Has anyone tried or know the advantages of this coffee maker?
Looks quite interesting to me.
Dee Dee

My parents had one of these -- the old ones, that is -- when I was a kid.
I think they only used it once or twice, and I have no idea where they got
it or why. They weren't they types to go for gadgets. Maybe someone gave
it to them. As a kid, I was fascinated by it. Maybe it reminded me of some
mad scientist experiment.

So now I have the thing, and I think I used it once. I don't remember if
the taste was any better or worse than regular coffee, but I must not have
been overwhelmed if I didn't make another batch right away.

The advantage I can see is if you regularly need odd amounts of coffee.
Like if you normally need just one or two cups, but then you might have
times when you need lots of coffee for entertaining, and you'd need
several pots to serve everyone. And/or if everyone in the house wants
different strengths of coffee. With the liquid stuff, you can make as much
as you need, the strengths you need. I suppose it would be good for iced
coffee, too, since it's already cold. Or if you tend to use coffee in
recipes.

Oddly enough, I can see that it might be useful for someone who doesn't
use a lot of coffee and doesn't want a coffeemaker sitting around, but who
doesn't want to serve instant coffee. So they could make a batch, freeze
the stuff in ice cube trays, and be ready for coffee any time.

Thanks for your thoughtful response. I appreciate it.

There are also some who have debated the safety of sun tea sit because of
certain changes in tea after so many hours. It would be hard to know if the
same applies to coffee used in this format. I bring this up because of
these considerations, although I'm not soliciting comments for myself
regarding this subject, as I know pretty much by now who bends which way on
rfc in these types of dialogue.
Thanks so much,
Dee Dee

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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3DB0000DCYS1/ref%3Dnosim/jwalkassociateA/002-2072856-1218429

Has anyone tried or know the advantages of this coffee maker?
Looks quite interesting to me.
Dee Dee

My parents had one of these -- the old ones, that is -- when I was a kid. I
think they only used it once or twice, and I have no idea where they got it
or why. They weren't they types to go for gadgets. Maybe someone gave it to
them. As a kid, I was fascinated by it. Maybe it reminded me of some mad
scientist experiment.

So now I have the thing, and I think I used it once. I don't remember if the
taste was any better or worse than regular coffee, but I must not have been
overwhelmed if I didn't make another batch right away.

The advantage I can see is if you regularly need odd amounts of coffee. Like
if you normally need just one or two cups, but then you might have times
when you need lots of coffee for entertaining, and you'd need several pots
to serve everyone. And/or if everyone in the house wants different strengths
of coffee. With the liquid stuff, you can make as much as you need, the
strengths you need. I suppose it would be good for iced coffee, too, since
it's already cold. Or if you tend to use coffee in recipes.

To handle people who want different strengths, keep an additional
container with very hot water nearby. They can dilute to their taste.

What aggravates me where there are coffee services, is the clown who
makes a half-strength pot instead of pouring a half cup of regular
strength and adding an equal amount of hot water from the water device
standing right there. You end up throwing the remains of the pot out and
have a [censored] half dose of coffee grounds going to waste.

jim

JimLane said:

To handle people who want different strengths, keep an additional
container with very hot water nearby. They can dilute to their taste.

Nodding head in agreement! I hate weak coffee, but if others want it
weak, they should be proved with piping hot water to dilute it to
their taste.

sf said:

JimLane said:

To handle people who want different strengths, keep an additional
container with very hot water nearby. They can dilute to their taste.

Nodding head in agreement! I hate weak coffee, but if others want it
weak, they should be proved with piping hot water to dilute it to
their taste.

Strength isn't the problem. Most of the esters and oils that are a coffee's
distinctive taste will not go into solution at room temperature and will
remain in the grounds. Cold extraction only gets about 1/3 of the flavor
components to the cup.

Bubbabob said:

sf said:

JimLane said:

To handle people who want different strengths, keep an additional
container with very hot water nearby. They can dilute to their taste.

Nodding head in agreement! I hate weak coffee, but if others want it
weak, they should be proved with piping hot water to dilute it to
their taste.

Strength isn't the problem. Most of the esters and oils that are a coffee's
distinctive taste will not go into solution at room temperature and will
remain in the grounds. Cold extraction only gets about 1/3 of the flavor
components to the cup.

You are both wrong and right, bb.

This subtopic is about how this cold coffee concentrate made it easier
to get varying strengths in the cup for those who don't want it full
strength. I showed it was just as easy with regular brewed full strength
coffee by having hot water nearby.

About the flavor components, you are bang on.