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Coker wheels, Tacos, BMX hubs

spincycle · 2006-11-09T07:07:40+00:00

I'm a newbie, but am already thinking about my 2nd uni. I was into the 29"s but a friend said, "You have to try a Coker!" So I did and loved it. Then started reading all the ins and outs of rims/spokes/hubs on the forums: steel v. aluminum, heavy v. light, Airfoils and Stocktons, etc. But when I started thinking about rims collapsing it made me think back to my youth (a long time ago) when the first BMX bikes came out -- they didn't have skinny spokes, they had big 5 or 7 spoke aluminum/alloy rims, sometimes with intricate patterns. This made me wonder why someone is not doing the same with the Coker. Couldn't a similar type of rim be built that would be super-strong and look cool? (Obviously it would require an equally strong hub). If the issue is weight, I'm guessing that a bmx-type rim would weigh more, but no more than a steel rim (which some people prefer for the extra mass, and thus momentum it generates) while being way stronger, maybe even stronger than the "Strongest Wheel". Interested in hearing thoughts/comments. jim -- spincycle ------------------------------------------------------------------------ spincycle's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13693 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/54725

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spincycle
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9 November 2006, 07:07 UTC #1

I'm a newbie, but am already thinking about my 2nd uni. I was into the
29"s but a friend said, "You have to try a Coker!" So I did and loved
it. Then started reading all the ins and outs of rims/spokes/hubs on
the forums: steel v. aluminum, heavy v. light, Airfoils and Stocktons,
etc.
But when I started thinking about rims collapsing it made me think back
to my youth (a long time ago) when the first BMX bikes came out -- they
didn't have skinny spokes, they had big 5 or 7 spoke aluminum/alloy
rims, sometimes with intricate patterns.
This made me wonder why someone is not doing the same with the Coker.
Couldn't a similar type of rim be built that would be super-strong and
look cool? (Obviously it would require an equally strong hub).
If the issue is weight, I'm guessing that a bmx-type rim would weigh
more, but no more than a steel rim (which some people prefer for the
extra mass, and thus momentum it generates) while being way stronger,
maybe even stronger than the "Strongest Wheel".
Interested in hearing thoughts/comments.
jim
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rob.northcott
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9 November 2006, 09:21 UTC #2

A well-built spoked wheel is actually extremely strong, certainly for
its weight. It does have to be well-built though to get the best out
of it.
I would guess the "mag" style cast wheels would have to be much heavier
than a spoked wheel before they would be stronger. If they were
produced in large enough quantities (unlikely with coker wheels) they
could probably be cheaper than a spoked wheel by a top builder like
Dave Stockton, but I'm not convinced they would be better than an
average spoked wheel - apart from the unusual look.
Spoked wheels also have the advantage that any slight misalignment can
be easily adjusted out - quite important on such a big wheel.
Sorry to be so pessimistic, but I'm not convinced - there's a reason
those BMX wheels died out.
Rob
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TonyMelton
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9 November 2006, 09:38 UTC #3

I agree with Rob those plastic BMX wheels were crappy and heavy and
their demise was well deserved. A 36" plastic spoked wheel would be so
heavy it would be awful to ride.
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blackbike
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9 November 2006, 09:43 UTC #4

TonyMelton said:
I agree with Rob those plastic BMX wheels were crappy and heavy and
their demise was well deserved. A 36" plastic spoked wheel would be so
heavy it would be awful to ride.
and a plastic wheel would make it look like a kids toy.
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spincycle
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12 November 2006, 03:50 UTC #5

You all make good points. Thanks.
One note, I wasn't thinking of the plastic version of the BMX wheels,
but rather the allow version. Nevertheless, I can see why spokes are
better.
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gordito8me
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12 November 2006, 03:53 UTC #6

or a carbon fibre time trial style wheel!
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bcwheelriderguyhehehehehe
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12 November 2006, 04:13 UTC #7

Do you think we are talking to Donald Trump here^^?🙄
Those things aare freakin pricy
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dudewithasock said:
Yeah, and they have more estrogen than me, too. Now *that* takes guts.
iridemymuni said:

hey evan i've got the same blue nipples as you !!!!!
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this may be off topic, but my trouser snake is called:
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blackbike
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12 November 2006, 04:48 UTC #8

ive seen a carbon fibre time trial wheel for 4 grand
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mornish
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12 November 2006, 16:04 UTC #9

blackbike said:
ive seen a carbon fibre time trial wheel for 4 grand
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mscalisi said:
wait...invisible AND pink?
Evan Byrne said:
Are you planing war against a iceberg or something?
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kington99
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12 November 2006, 16:14 UTC #10

gordito8me said:
or a carbon fibre time trial style wheel!
The thing is unicyclists do rely to a certain extent on the flex in the
spokes, solid carbon wheels will be incredibly stiff, this is why
bicyclists don't use solid CF wheels for road use, only time trial.
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domesticated ape
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12 November 2006, 17:30 UTC #11

spincycle said:
You all make good points. Thanks.
One note, I wasn't thinking of the plastic version of the BMX wheels,
but rather the alloy version. Nevertheless, I can see why spokes are
better.
Got any pics of these?
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