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  1. Just got back from my first real coker crash. I was trying to look over
    my shoulder to see where the dog was, when next thing, i'm flying down
    the path like superman. (Sort of like the high speed chase on the
    speeders in the forrest in Star Wars) From where the uke ended up, to
    where I finally stopped, was about 16 feet!!
    Assuming the uke's inertia carried it, at least, say 4 feet from the
    point of UPD, I was airborn for like 20 feet!!!

    Anyway, the seat came a bit loose at the bolts, but otherwise survived
    perfectly, and other than a few tiny cuts, and some bruises, I lost no
    skin - which is sort of amazing - but good.

    I'd been planning to get some protective gear - but now I'm _really_
    planning to do so.

    Can anyone recommend which bits of the body are most often injured in a
    coker crash? And which brands/retailers are the best?
    I'm 6'7" if that makes any difference.

    Also, how do you freemount a coker?

    And of what value is a brake on a 36" beast?

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  2. Congratulations! That sounds like an awesome crash!

    The most important piece of protective gear (aside from a helmet) is
    wristguards. Broken or sprained wrists are the most likely serious
    injuries you'll recieve.

    Freemounting is tough on a coker. Lots and lots of practice.

    Brakes are useful for steep and long downhills, especially with shorter
    cranks. I have some on mine and I rarely use them. Save your money for
    now. If you need them in the future, you'll know.

    Good luck!

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  3. Tall_Dave said:

    *
    Can anyone recommend which bits of the body are most often injured in
    a coker crash?

    Also, how do you freemount a coker?

    And of what value is a brake on a 36" beast? *

    I've had one major crash on the Coker and the bit I injured was my
    shoulder. It's several months later and it still doesn't feel right. I
    don't know if it's practical to be wearing shoulder pads though.

    I'd recommend a Helmet and gloves a the two most important safety items.
    Maybe wristguards although I don't use them. Shin guards if you are
    riding off road. And also important are good shoes without laces- you
    can end up spinning very fast on a Coker and the last thing you'd want
    is your laces wrapping itself around the axle. (And I find having to
    tuck the laces away every time a bit of a hassle.) I use Salomon trail
    running shoes- they have a kevlar fastening system that tucks away
    neatly.

    A good rolling mount takes a bit of practice- but that's what I use to
    mount the Coker with. And it's great for off-road or uphill situations.
    Otherwise, an alternative mount is to grab the wheel with one hand and
    pull yourself up onto the seat.

    I don't use a brake- but I think it will be quite useful for off-road
    and also for steep downhills with short cranks. I'd stick with long
    cranks for now until you get more familiar with the Coker.

    Ken

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  4. im 6'4, and i find the large 4x4 knee and shin guards by sixsixone
    already wayyy too small. just something to think about

    i suppose someone of your stature would mount a coker the same way most
    people would mount a trials... 🙂

    -grant

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  5. When on the Coker (on pavement) I use helmet, Harbinger
    glove/wristguards, 661 DJ knee and elbow pads. I took a fairly fast UPD
    once that I was not able to "run out" of and slid on my elbows and
    knees. Without the pads, my joints woukd have looked like hamburger
    :eek: I don't use my 661 4x4's with the Coker bacause I usually get
    spit far away from the pedals. The 661 DJ (dirt jumper) pads offer
    excellent knee and elbow protection and they're almost giving them away
    here:

    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/sub.aspx?i=354

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    If you ain't crashing, you ain't going fast enough!!!!!!!!!!!

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  6. I almost forgot to congratulate you on your attempt at high speed
    levitation😄

    BTW, here's a response I posted to your other thread in Product Reviews
    explaining a method for freemounting the beast. It works pretty well
    for me:

    I am a little short-changed in the inseam department, so freemounting a
    Coker proved to be a challenge for me initially. Here's how I freemount
    my Coker:
    With the pedals at 2 and 8 o'clock, I place my foot on the rear pedal
    and reach over the saddle with my right hand to grab hold of the wheel.
    Then I give the Coker a slight push as I jump onto the saddle while
    pulling against the wheel with my hand to give myself a little more
    "lift" as I plant my other foot on the forward pedal. This helps to get
    a little momentum to start that big wheel rolling.

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  7. Free mounting is easy.

    You can roll back, standard mount, or I prefer a rolling step on/ hop on
    mount.

    If you roll the wheel forward slowly, you step/hop on when the pedals
    are in the correct position, and the wheel's intertia will bring you
    right up. 🙂

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  8. Nice.

    You'll find 'running out' of UPDs more and more impossible as you enter
    mach speed (Coker-I). The topic of coker specific protection has been
    addressed earlier, and I'm sticking with my answer that a helmet, shoes,
    and wrist guards are required. (I've slid a long way on concrete, on the
    toes of my shoes and wrist-guards, unscathed.)

    A brake is useful on *any* downhill after you've ridden a greater
    distance than usual. During a normal ride, I do not use it. During the
    MS150, I used it on every down hill, after the rain stopped. I have also
    found it useful for very steep hills. It takes some planned practise to
    successfully use a brake on any unicycle.

    I no longer can do a 'rolling mount', since I put on the shorter cranks.
    Idling is harder as well. Holding/pulling the wheel is good for starting
    on hills or in a crowd, but I usually mount it like a regular uni, with
    the pedals nearly horizontal.

    Jerry

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  9. Tall_Dave said:

    *From where the uke ended up, to where I finally stopped, was about 16
    feet!!*


    Uke? It sounds like you're about to throw up. We mostly just call them
    unicycles. Or Cokers. Or unis. Some people say yikes, but then I say,
    "Aren't there any better comic book exclamations?" 😄

    Protection, in order of importance:
    1. Helmet
    2. Hands/wrists
    3. Knees
    After that it gets more a matter of preference; those are the three
    biggies. Perhaps add feet if you're riding real fast all the time.

    Mounting:
    I use what would be called a static mount. I roll the unicycle forward,
    but when the rear pedal comes about level, the unicycle stops while I
    continue forward, up and onto the wheel. Don't start pedaling until your
    balance point gets ahead of the axle. With practice you can do it nice
    and slow with no problems. I use the same mount on my 45" wheel.

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  10. I always wear wrist guards whether I am going down to the shops or
    riding over 100 miles. Falling from the height you do on a Coker tends
    to be hard on the wrists (I broke my Scafoid falling off my Coker at
    almost 20mph). Helmets I wear if I am going fast, or off road - I have
    fallen many times and never come near to landing on my head. I would
    have said do wear one though, even if it never gets used.
    Again with knees and legs, I don't wear any knee or leg protection and
    have never hurt my knees. I seam to be unusual with this, it is where
    most people seam to do damage (Alan's knees are certainly a mess from
    his falls!). So would recommend protecting these if you can. XL leg
    armour is certainly not easy to find at the moment. The Kris Holm ones
    were great while we had them, but.... not sure what I can advise here.
    The other area I do get hurt a lot though in falls is my hip. I always
    get deep painful grazes on my hip. Padded down hill shorts would help
    this... although I can not find any I like and fit so can not be sure of
    this.

    Roger

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