Coker Reliability



Chuck Webb wrote:
> *Just to stay somewhat on topic...i've had my standard Coker for about
> 4 years now. It doesn't get ridden on any real tough terrain, but it
> has worn out two tires with no rim problems. I'd love to have the
> airfoil rim, but like others have said, i probably won't upgrade until
> i fold the stock one. One thing, though, i wouldn't recommend trying
> to use brakes on the stock rim. I tried it for a little while, but my
> rim has such a bulge at the weld that it is impossible to
> modulate...sent me flying too many times!
>
> Chuck *


I put a slight bend in my stock steel Coker rim one week before I got my
Airfoil wheel back from the wheel builder. That was almost perfect
timing. :)

I bent my stock Coker rim on a bad mount. I mounted, was off balance to
the side, and did a slight side hop to recover. It was only a slight
bend and was still rideable afterwards. I took it to a local bike shop
that specialized in unusual bikes and he was able to bend it back true.
The wheel works, but I don't trust it any more. I expect it to bend
again in the same spot.

The stock Coker wheel is weak. The steel rim can't take very much spoke
tension so the spokes have to be loose. The stock hub is very narrow
which doesn't help matters any. The stock wheel works, but given the
opportunity it will bend. It's a wheel failure waiting to happen.

The Airfoil is an immensely better rim. It's stronger. You can tension
the spokes to very high tension and it won't buckle. It's stronger.
Did I mention it's stronger. I'm willing to ride mine down stairs and
go on single track with no fears that the wheel is going to fail.

Put the Airfoil rim on a w-i-d-e hub and difference between it and the
stock wheel is dramatic. With a strong wheel build and a wide hub the
rim does not flex even when pedaling hard up a hill. That means that
the rim will not rub the brake pads when climbing. The wheel is solid.
It gives you confidence to ride it harder. But the cost of such a wheel
is more than the entire stock Coker.


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Mikefule wrote:
> *
> My question which started all this was (facetiously) whether US pounds
> were the same weight as UK pounds. *



In the US a pound is something you use to move stubborn things, whereas
in the UK a pound is something you use to pursuede shopkeepers to give
stuff up. It's perhaps a subtle difference.

Oh, weight. Nevermind.

:) :) :)


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cyberbellum wrote:
> *In the US a pound is something you use to move stubborn things*

Do you mean -foot-/pounds, when you kick something?;) :D


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Chuck Webb wrote:
> *
>
> Now I'm really confused! All that Stone stuff had me going, and now
> we have to figure out the weight of "heavy water." Normal water is
> about 8.34 lbs/US gal, but i guess we'll have to ask Harper about
> heavy water.
>
> *



Heavy water is D2O rather than H2O. D, deuterium, is an isotope of
hydrogen, H, that behaves chemically the same but has twice the atomic
mass. This is because it has a neutron and a proton in its nucleus
rather than just a proton. Oxygen, common to both D2O and H2O molecules,
has an atomic mass of 16. The total atomic mass within a D2O molecule is
20 and within an H2O molecule is 18. Heavy water is 20/18, 10/9, or 1.11
times as heavy as water.

Sorry about being off topic. I thought you might really be curious.


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harper wrote:
> *
>
> Heavy water is D2O rather than H2O. D, deuterium, is an isotope of
> hydrogen, H, that behaves chemically the same but has twice the atomic
> mass. This is because it has a neutron and a proton in its nucleus
> rather than just a proton. Oxygen, common to both D2O and H2O
> molecules, has an atomic mass of 16. The total atomic mass within a
> D2O molecule is 20 and within an H2O molecule is 18. Heavy water is
> 20/18, 10/9, or 1.11 times as heavy as water.
>
> *



Funny, I was just thinking the same thing ;)


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brian.slater wrote:
> *Do you mean -foot-/pounds, when you kick something?;) :D *



Ohhh! People in advanced states of confusion really torque me off!! :)
:)

(Bada-boom!)


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On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 01:34:01 -0500, "Mikefule" wrote:

>Klaas Bil wrote:
>> *That is my point. 149 lbs should be 10 stone 9, not 10 stone 6. More
>> proof that the imperial system is confusing even to the English - as
>> if we need more proof.
>>
>> Klaas Bil *

>
>
>149 pounds **is** 10 stone 9.

Yes, the "should be" in my response is shorthand for "should have been
clarified by Sarah as".

>clearly a system of 1/14 and 1/16 is not decimal.

Thanks for a new sig line.

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cyberbellum wrote:
> *
>
> Ohhh! People in advanced states of confusion really torque me off!!
> :) :)
>
> (Bada-boom!) *



I wrenched my side from laughing so hard at that one


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rather than just a proton. Oxygen, common to both D2O and H2O molecules,
has an atomic mass of 16. The total atomic mass within a D2O molecule is
20 and within an H2O molecule is 18. Heavy water is 20/18, 10/9, or 1.11
times as heavy as water." - Harper's response to 'Hi Greg, how are
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Stone (st)
A traditional British unit of weight, rarely used in the U.S. Originally
the stone varied in size, both from place to place and according to the
nature of the item being weighed. A stone of sugar was traditionally 8
pounds, while a stone of wool could be as much as 24 pounds. Eventually
the stone was standardized at 14 pounds avoirdupois or approximately
6.350 29 kilograms -- a convenient size because it makes the stone equal
to exactly 1/2 quarter or 1/8 hundredweight. Today the stone is used
mostly for stating the weight of persons or animals. No -s is added for
the plural.

From 'A Dictionary of Units of Measurement'
(http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictS.html), a very nice and through
dictionary. Anybody know the definition of "nice" that I'm using?

Just trying to reduce the confusion a little.:D


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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 23:43:12 -0500, "brian.slater" wrote:

>Anybody know the definition of "nice" that I'm using?


Maybe "done with delicacy and skill"? (from rhymezone.com). But why?

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cyberbellum wrote:
> *
> Twisted! :) *

You guys are nuts! I think you each have a screw loose. *bolts before
being struck*

...this is a crazy -thread-...


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brian.slater wrote:
> *Anybody know the definition of "nice" that I'm using?
> *

An archaic form meaning "extremely accurate.":cool:


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