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I smell a California Coker MUni Weekend😄

I will start saving extra wheel sets now.

Coker MUni is extremely addicting as well as the best ride and most fun
you can have on one wheel.

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Hit up Scott Wallis. He's running a Dave Stockton wheelset on his Coker
on our local trails and isn't [censored]-footing around with it either. I
don't know what cranks he's got on it though.

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vivalargo said:

maybe there's some way to string a Airfoil rim to a Profile hub or
something since the other hubs are garbage--like tin.

If I remember correctly, 'Trevor' (http://www.tlb.org/) has an Airfoil
laced to a Profile hub.

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vivalargo said:

It's totally possible to ride fairly technical single tracks on the
Coker but the limiting factor is gear--unless there's gear I haven't
heard of. I slapped some Black Widow 175's on and bent them (slightly)
on a measly two foot drop. Rolling hops (drops) seem to be are okay.
But I'm not much of a Coker dude so far as knowledge and experience
goes--maybe there's some way to string a Airfoil rim to a Profile hub
or something since the other hubs are garbage--like tin.

Don't know what the outter envelop is here but I reckon to find out
tomorrow with the OC crew.

JL

I'm using the 'PDC modified Kooka cranks'
(http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51014) with my Coker
now. They're drilled for 130, 150, 170. The Kooka cranks are strong.
If you can find some, get them.

The Black Widows aren't that strong for more aggressive muni riding.
An inexpensive alternative would be Sugino tandem cranks. They are
available in 170 or 175. The captain's right crank on a tandem has no
spider. So you get a RH captain's crank and pair it with a matching LH
normal crank. You can get the Sugino cranks from any bike shop that
has the QBC catalog. Price is $15-$20 for each crank (so $30-$40 for
the pair). 'Alfred E. Bike' (http://aebike.com/index.cfm) has them in
their online catalog (search the catalog for "tandem"😉. They're better
than the Black Widow's, but still not the strongest cranks around.

The problem with a Profile hub is that the hub is too narrow. The
wheel build will not be very strong. You need a wide hub.

The other problem will be keeping the wheel true. I regularly knock my
Coker wheel out of true doing XC muni with it. It will go out of true
and rub the brake. A Stockton wheel build would do better (mine is a
local wheel build). But the big wheel can only take so much before it
will go out of true.

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when i get my coker i'll ride it till it dies, then i'll get an airfoil,
then i'll get koxx hub and cranks. i'll get the hub widened by anther
20mm and it'll be sweet

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irvinegr said:

haha i just thaught it was funny the title is "3th movie"

pixystix6 said:

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kh moment hub, zoo ffw cranks.

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It would be great if Kris Holm would make a wide hub version of his new
moment hubs for cokers. I wonder what his minimum number of hubs whould
be for it to be cost efective.

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Tellurider said:

It would be great if Kris Holm would make a wide hub version of his new
moment hubs for cokers. I wonder what his minimum number of hubs whould
be for it to be cost efective.

Which would open him up to demands for more crank lengths. He can't
win. Give us something and we want more. 🙂

A wide Moment hub with a suitable selection of crank sizes would be
most excellent.

Then we'll need suitable frames that fit the 42mm bearing size.

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He does indeed have profiles, but I think it's on the steel rim.

phlegm said:

If I remember correctly, 'Trevor' (http://www.tlb.org/) has an Airfoil
laced to a Profile hub.

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I saw two guys with KH/Onza hubs built in to seemingly otherwise
standard cokers at Unicon, they said they'd done it just to get a hub
with wider flanges to get the wheel stronger.

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I agree with John, you need a wider hub than a profile or even the KH
(this is about 6mm wider than the profile if my figures are right).
This is 25mm narrower than the UDC special wide flange hub!

For road work I have a narrow hub (UDC wide flange hub) but for off
road I switch in the UDC special wide flange hub. The wheel needs it
for races like the Mountain Mayhem.

I think that it was Tom Miller who was cutting and widening the Suzue
hubs. It may be worth asking him to manufacture a wide flange splined
hub. It should work quite well, especially since the hub material is
CrMo and will cope better with the welding better than the Susue
hardened standard steel.

Roger

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Then we'll need suitable frames that fit the 42mm bearing size./QUOTE said:

You can get bearings to fit almost any combination. I bet there are
bearings that would fit the KH Moment with a 40mm OD.

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Tellurider said:

You can get bearings to fit almost any combination. I bet there are
bearings that would fit the KH Moment with a 40mm OD.

Simple answer to this one is not at the moment and I dont think that
there ever will be any. The bearings are already very special low
profile and would normally be 47mm diameter.

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Why not simply cut a KH moment hub and sleeve it in the manner of
widened Suzue hubs? Should be no more difficult than widening a Suzue.
KH moment cranks come in a pretty good range of sizes - 125, 137, 150
and 165mm - certainly enough selection for offroad cokering!

Standard coker frames will accept both 40mm and 42mm bearing sizes,
though many custom frames won't.

I have a widened Suzue hub for sale if anyone is interested. 'Photo
here' (http://www.laosunitour.org/images/Tony/IMG_4068.jpg). Make me an
offer.

Vivalargo - Kookas are good for offroad cokering, as JC mentioned.
They're just kinda hard to find.

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rogeratunicycledotcom said:

Simple answer to this one is not at the moment and I dont think that
there ever will be any. The bearings are already very special low
profile and would normally be 47mm diameter.

Roger

Then make the frames to fit a 47mm OD bearing and include a shim so the
frame could be used with 42mm or 40mm bearings.

If the Moment hub and KH frame requires a special custom bearing size,
why not just make the frame to fit a standard bearing? 47mm bearing
holders on a frame would seem reasonable. Being able to use stock
bearings that are more durable would be a win win.

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rogeratunicycledotcom said:

Simple answer to this one is not at the moment and I dont think that
there ever will be any. The bearings are already very special low
profile and would normally be 47mm diameter.

Roger

That's too bad.

It does look like a fat spindle and it would be heavy if it was much
wider.

The UDC coker hub is heavy enough and it works well if you have good
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rogeratunicycledotcom said:

Simple answer to this one is not at the moment and I dont think that
there ever will be any. The bearings are already very special low
profile and would normally be 47mm diameter.

Roger

That's too bad.

It does look like a fat spindle and it would be heavy if it was much
wider.

The UDC coker hub is heavy enough and it works well if you have good
cranks.

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Tellurider said:

It does look like a fat spindle and it would be heavy if it was much
wider.

The UDC coker hub is heavy enough and it works well if you have good
cranks.

for what it's worth, the moment hub is hollow. people seem to be
forgetting that with isis, you have a huge range of (strong) cranks and
sizes to choose from.

maybe we need a new coker frame to accomidate kh size bearings?

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Offroad cokering is really good fun. My airfoil / extra wide hub /
slick tyre combo is holding up fine so far. I have 150mm ProWheel
alloy cranks installed which give me a decent amount of torque on any
inclines of gnarly bits.

For added fun, I often do offroad stuff in the dark :-)

With the coker it's really fun to blast round gnarly trails and
singletrack - this kind of riding has the bonus of not putting *too*
much strain on the hub / cranks / wheel. I guess if I was going to go
off lots of drops I might want a smaller wheel and splined hub, but
there isn't really that kind of terrain in this area :-(

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