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  1. The weather just started to turn nice here in Indiana, so I went on a 6 mile
    ride on my Coker. I averaged between 9-10 miles/hour, but I had to stop at
    the 4 mile mark to recover from "penis numbness".

    I'm concerned that if I go on longer rides, I'll do some damage. Any
    thoughts?

    I converted my saddle to an air saddle with an innertube. It's pretty
    comfortable, but when I try to go faster than 10 MPH it gets bouncy. Any
    ideas on that?

    Thanks!

    KokomoJuggler

    P.S.
    I'm getting better at mounting. I went the whole ride w/ freemounts. (I
    stopped once for traffic, once for a break, and once when I fell down and
    skinned by hand and knee. I'll be shopping for knee and wrist protection)

  2. sounds like you have too much air in your air seat.

    are you using the original foam from the seat? use the foam along with
    the airtube (which really doesn't have much air in it at all, in my
    case)

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  3. Try throwing some cornstarch in your shorts before your ride, or
    applying a product called Vaseline Creamy (looks like Nivea cold cream,
    found at Walmart in the skin cream section)

    This will solve chaffing issues, and maybe it'll solve the numbness as a
    side effect?

    You can buy rail adapters to tilt the seat forward which may hel as
    well, but I like to start with the cheapest solution first (most times)

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  4. Kokomo Juggler said:

    *I'm concerned that if I go on longer rides, I'll do some damage. Any
    thoughts?*

    I don't think you'll do any damage. Just get off for a couple minutes
    when you get numb, then get back on.

    I have almost exactly the same situation numbness wise (I'm on a KH
    saddle). About 1/2 hour into the ride I get numb; I get off for about
    90 seconds, and get back on. After the first 1/2 hour, I get numb about
    every 20 minutes, so I repeat the 90second break again roughly every 20
    minutes.

    I think this is typical. I think better riders go longer, but still
    have the same basic problem.

    I've a Coker distance riding friend, BigWheelTex, (he's riding a two day
    180+ mile ride this weekend) who really likes the rail adapter he got
    for his KH equiped Coker. He tilts the seat way up in the front so his
    weight is more on his buttocks. Claims it substantially improves his
    butt/crotch endurance.

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  5. Numbness is a sign of loss of blood circulation.

    Short term this is of no consequence.

    Long term regular numbness will cause damage from cell death due to lack
    of blood flow and build up of by products in the cells, which are being
    starved. How serious this can be over time I am not aware of. But it is
    a known fact that racing cyclists have problems due to saddle damage on
    their ‘underneath’ be it from bruising or numbness caused by the loss of
    blood circulation.

    So be aware!

    I think someone should design a more chair like seat for long distance
    unicycling, which will provide a good degree of support for the large
    fleshy areas rather than the small narrow section between them. Perhaps
    you could adapt a large bike seat? Would that work?

    JJ

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  6. Boy, I must be pretty lucky...I can't seem to picture any time I've ever
    gone numb.

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  7. Kokomo Juggler said:

    *I converted my saddle to an air saddle with an innertube. It's
    pretty
    comfortable, but when I try to go faster than 10 MPH it gets bouncy.
    Any
    ideas on that?
    *

    Maybe less air. Also you might have the seat a bit high, you need it
    slightly lower for the fatter seat.

    There's also something about learning to sit on the saddle so that it
    doesn't hurt. After a while you'll get so you can ride for hours without
    a break.

    Joe

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  8. As far as the bounciness goes, that's pedalling technique. Concentrate
    on spinning your feet in perfect circles, when you get better technique,
    you will no longer be bouncy. With good technique, I can go about 11
    mph on my 700c with 125 mm cranks. Crank length has a lot to do wtih it
    too.

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  9. Stand up on the pedals every so often and give yourself a stretch. I
    usually take a walk every few miles, whether I need it or not. Bike
    shorts help, but they feel funny.
    carjug

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  10. they look it as well! but so does a unicycle so I don't suppose it
    really matters all that much

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  11. I've found the trick is to do something befor you go numb--such as
    standing up on the peddles every five or ten minutes, even for a few
    strokes. If you wait till you're totally numb, the numbness will return
    quickly (at least for me) and you'll probably have to dismount for the
    feeling to return.

    Coming from road cycling--which I still do--I don't find cycling shorts
    weird at all. You can get stylish trunks with bike liners, but they
    rarely have as many pannels as top grade road shorts, so I go with the
    later owing to their thickness where it counts (I'm on a KH seat with
    rail-adaptors).

    JL

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  12. I rode a Giraffe in a parade for an hour and a half once. It broke

    one of my nerves and I couldn’t lift my right foot up (at the ankle)

    for 6 months. I had to have 3 MRIs and 3 X-Rays and

    physical therapy but it came back eventually. I tripped over my

    foot a lot though because it just dangled there

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  13. KcTheAcy said:

    *I rode a Giraffe in a parade for an hour and a half once. It broke

    one of my nerves and I couldn’t lift my right foot up (at the ankle)

    for 6 months. I had to have 3 MRIs and 2 X-Rays and

    physical therapy but it came back eventually. I tripped over my

    foot a lot though because it just dangled there *

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  14. KcTheAcy said:

    *I rode a Giraffe in a parade for an hour and a half once. It broke

    one of my nerves and I couldn’t lift my right foot up (at the ankle)

    for 6 months. I had to have 3 MRIs and 2 X-Rays and

    physical therapy but it came back eventually. I tripped over my

    foot a lot though because it just dangled there *

    Dude! . . . . are you serious?
    What exactly happened, so I can avoid it?

    /been having trouble with my ankles lately when riding

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  15. KcTheAcy said:

    *I rode a Giraffe in a parade for an hour and a half once. It broke
    one of my nerves and I couldn’t lift my right foot up (at the ankle)
    for 6 months.*


    Ouch. Riding a giraffe in a parade is one of those situations where you
    don't have a lot of options about getting on and off. That's why I don't
    like to ride mine in parades. I prefer my big wheel.

    It's when you ride for a long time without dismounts and with little or
    no shifting around in the seat that you risk the pinching off of vital
    fluids or nerves. I wonder if KcTheAcy really *broke* a nerve or just
    *killed* it by leaving it pinched for too long. Same difference I
    guess.

    I have experienced some severe numbness (and painful urination) in my
    early days of riding, on a rock-hard Schwinn seat. But I haven't
    experienced anything like what happened to me during that first year in
    the many years since.

    So after you've got the best possible seat, the right shorts, the right
    seat height, etc., I think it's still important to not sit in the same
    position on the seat for too long. I "adjust myself" around
    occasionally, shifting a little forward, a little back, or otherwise
    moving the pressure points around.

    Good advice on the air seat. It wasn't clear from your post if the
    numbness happened with the air seat or before. But yes, air seats should
    have very low pressure in them. What you want to avoid is having the
    high point in the center. The ultimate seats have a high part on each
    side, and are lower or softer in the center. Re-arrange your innertube
    if necessary.

    Seat height: yes, make sure the height doesn't have you reaching too
    far. This is probably not your problem, because if you're reaching too
    far it usually means you're bobbing side to side as you pedal, so you
    likely won't pinch off your fluids.

    Make sure you're not sitting on your penis.

    Okay, make sure you've got yourself "arranged" comfortably. Wear cycling
    shorts. If you're wearing something else, you are more than likely
    sitting on one or more seams, which create nasty pressure points.

    Get a handlebar. I have one on my Coker now and can't imagine doing any
    long distance riding without one now. For me it's 16 miles to work and
    back, so I love my handle. Mine was made by Paul Wyganowski. I didn't
    find any of these custom jobs listed on Unicycle.com, but you can use a
    simpler handle from George Barnes
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=576).

    I'm attaching a picture of mine. I'm not using it as it was originally
    intended. I've stuck some bar-ends onto what was intended as a front
    bumper. I like getting into the slight "tuck" I get down there. Someday
    I'll get a set designed for me, which will offer a more aerodynamic
    position, and an actual rack on the back.

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  16. Kokomo Juggler said:

    The weather just started to turn nice here in Indiana, so I went on a 6 mile
    ride on my Coker. I averaged between 9-10 miles/hour, but I had to stop at
    the 4 mile mark to recover from "penis numbness".

    I found that switching to excellent cycling shorts eliminated this
    problem for me. I won't ride any significant distance without my
    Pearlizumi Microsensor shorts, which have a channel running down the
    middle of the chamois to provide relief. There are also less
    expensive, but still pricy, shorts with contoured chamois.

    Ken


  17. Quoted message said:

    -Originally posted by johnfoss:-

    *Make sure you're not sitting on your penis.*

    🙄

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  18. Sofa said:

    Boy, I must be pretty lucky...I can't seem to picture any time I've ever
    gone numb.

    Boy, we must be pretty lucky that you didn't post those attempts at a
    picture :-)

    Seriously, the issue of numbness and possible damage has (of course)
    been discussed before on rsu. Search for 'penile' (which is the
    adjective of penis). But there's a lot of good info in this thread
    too.

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  19. Thanks for all the replies. I forgot to mention that I am using bicycling
    shorts with chamous (is that spelled right?). They are about 30 years old,
    from my high school days. Perhaps there are better ones available now.

    What is a "rail adaptor" ?

    I'm looking for a cheap handle. I'm thinking of something that attaches to
    the seat post.

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    Quoted message said:
    Kokomo Juggler said:

    The weather just started to turn nice here in Indiana, so I went on a 6


    mile

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    ride on my Coker. I averaged between 9-10 miles/hour, but I had to stop


    at

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    the 4 mile mark to recover from "penis numbness".

    I found that switching to excellent cycling shorts eliminated this
    problem for me. I won't ride any significant distance without my
    Pearlizumi Microsensor shorts, which have a channel running down the
    middle of the chamois to provide relief. There are also less
    expensive, but still pricy, shorts with contoured chamois.

    Ken

  20. a rail adapter basically turns the bottom of your uni seat into the same
    thing as the bottom of a bike seat.....with rails.

    This fits into the same type of seat post as a bike...you have a HUGE
    range of tilt adjustability you could tilt it beyond riding position up
    or down, and any spot in between

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