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  1. eurosport.comsport Lng0 Spo18 Sto531638.shtml

  2. There's no specific mention of the direction of the trafficking. But Poland is the hub and Western
    European countries the source....

    So from the report one might as well assume filanthropical purposes, i.e. deprived Eastern European
    orphans or in-laws, as usual.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Robert Chung said:

    eurosport.comsport Lng0 Spo18 Sto531638.shtml

    You might think that if you were in a position like trainer for a pro bike racing team, you would
    think twice about how it looks having a relative working in a pharmaceutical lab.

    --
    tanx, Howard

    Said you hit Roddy Piper, and didn't get a hassle, Promised your girl filet mignon, then took
    her to White Castle! LL Cool J

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  4. cyclingnews.comnews.php the latest news.....

  5. "Howard Kveck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    In article said:


    eurosport.comsport Lng0 Spo18 Sto531638.sht ml

    Quoted message said:


    You might think that if you were in a position like trainer for a pro bike racing team, you
    would think twice about how it looks having a relative working in a pharmaceutical lab.

    Meaning what? So what if they thought twice, and then what would you expect? I mean come on...what
    do "we" expect from these guys?

    I see no indication of any impropriety in that situation.

    Quoted message said:


    --
    tanx, Howard

    Said you hit Roddy Piper, and didn't get a hassle, Promised your girl filet mignon, then took
    her to White Castle! LL Cool J

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  6. Nick Burns said:

    "Howard Kveck" wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You might think that if you were in a position like trainer for a pro bike racing team, you would
    think twice about how it looks having a relative working in a pharmaceutical lab.

    I see no indication of any impropriety in that situation.

    You familiar with weapons of mass destruction-related program activities? This is doping-related
    program activity.

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Nick Burns said:

    "Howard Kveck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YOURhoward-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    In article said:


    eurosport.comsport Lng0 Spo18 Sto531638.sht ml

    Quoted message said:


    You might think that if you were in a position like trainer for a pro bike racing team, you
    would think twice about how it looks having a relative working in a pharmaceutical lab.

    Meaning what? So what if they thought twice, and then what would you expect? I mean come on...what
    do "we" expect from these guys?

    I see no indication of any impropriety in that situation.

    Cops and prosecutors seem to think that cycling is overrun with dope, so when they see that one
    of the trainers for a big team has a close relative who -could possibly- supply that trainer with
    dope, the alarms probably go off. It's a 'appearance' thing, Chris. Perhaps this goes beyond
    appearances, however (from the linked article):

    "A search of Madejak's home -- as well as tapped telephone lines -- identify the Cofidis trainer
    as the hub of a "vast" drug trafficking ring based in Eastern Europe and particularly Poland, the
    home country of both Madejak and Rutkiewicz.

    A daughter of Madejak, employed in a pharmaceutical laboratory in the Paris region, has also
    been taken into custody, suspected of furnishing and running doping products from Belgium, Italy
    and Spain "

    Btw, Chris, I thought that if you were going to reply to a message that was more than ten days
    old, you had do it through "Cycling Forums" (just to maintain their record)... Though I have
    noticed you've been somewhat MIA lately.

    --
    tanx, Howard

    "We're not laughing -at- you, we're laughing -with- you..) "But... I'm not
    laughing???" Happiness

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  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Robert Chung said:
    Nick Burns said:

    "Howard Kveck" wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You might think that if you were in a position like trainer for a pro bike racing team, you
    would think twice about how it looks having a relative working in a pharmaceutical lab.

    I see no indication of any impropriety in that situation.

    You familiar with weapons of mass destruction-related program activities? This is doping-related
    program activity.

    OK, are those known knowns, known unknowns or unknown unknowns?

    --
    tanx, Howard

    "We're not laughing -at- you, we're laughing -with- you..) "But... I'm not
    laughing???" Happiness

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  9. Howard Kveck said:
    In article said:
    Nick Burns said:

    "Howard Kveck" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    > You might think that if you were in a position like trainer for a pro bike racing team, you
    > would think twice about how it looks having a relative working in a pharmaceutical lab.

    I see no indication of any impropriety in that situation.

    You familiar with weapons of mass destruction-related program activities? This is doping-related
    program activity.

    OK, are those known knowns, known unknowns or unknown unknowns?

    I'll try to figure that part out after I finish getting my brain around this progression: 10 months
    ago: Weapons of mass destruction. 7 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction programs. 3 months ago:
    Weapons of mass destruction-related programs. this month: Weapons of mass destruction-related
    program activity.

    You know those "what's next in this series" questions?

  10. Robert Chung said:

    I'll try to figure that part out after I finish getting my brain around this progression: 10
    months ago: Weapons of mass destruction. 7 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction programs. 3
    months ago: Weapons of mass destruction-related programs. this month: Weapons of mass destruction-
    related program activity.

    You know those "what's next in this series" questions?

    On your side: probably a Congressional inquiry. On the other side of the pond: Royal Commission.

  11. Robert Chung said:

    I'll try to figure that part out after I finish getting my brain around this progression: 10
    months ago: Weapons of mass destruction. 7 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction programs. 3
    months ago: Weapons of mass destruction-related programs. this month: Weapons of mass destruction-
    related program activity.

    Quoted message said:

    You know those "what's next in this series" questions?

    Conspiracy to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Then we can prosecute the offenders (or anyone, really) under the RICO (Racketering Influenced and
    Corrupt Organizations) act. Triple penalties all around! Except for Enron, MCI, et al that is.

  12. Benjamin Weiner said:
    Robert Chung said:

    I'll try to figure that part out after I finish getting my brain around this progression: 10
    months ago: Weapons of mass destruction. 7 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction programs. 3
    months ago: Weapons of mass destruction-related programs. this month: Weapons of mass destruction-
    related program activity.

    Quoted message said:

    You know those "what's next in this series" questions?

    Conspiracy to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Next: Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

  13. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Benjamin Weiner said:
    Robert Chung said:

    I'll try to figure that part out after I finish getting my brain around this progression: 10
    months ago: Weapons of mass destruction. 7 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction programs. 3
    months ago: Weapons of mass destruction-related programs. this month: Weapons of mass destruction-
    related program activity.

    Quoted message said:

    You know those "what's next in this series" questions?

    Conspiracy to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Next: Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity and failure to
    communicate.

  14. Robert Chung said:
    Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Quoted message said:

    Robert Chung <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > I'll try to figure that part out after I finish getting my brain around this progression: 10
    > months ago: Weapons of mass destruction. 7 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction programs. 3
    > months ago: Weapons of mass destruction-related programs. this month: Weapons of mass destruction-
    > related program activity.

    > You know those "what's next in this series" questions?

    Conspiracy to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Next: Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Quoted message said:

    Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity and failure
    to communicate.

    Operating an intended conspiracy to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity
    without DMV-approved license, registration, and proof of insurance.

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Robert Chung said:
    Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Benjamin Weiner said:

    Robert Chung <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > I'll try to figure that part out after I finish getting my brain around this progression: 10
    > months ago: Weapons of mass destruction. 7 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction programs. 3
    > months ago: Weapons of mass destruction-related programs. this month: Weapons of mass destruction-
    > related program activity.

    > You know those "what's next in this series" questions?

    Conspiracy to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Next: Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity and failure
    to communicate.

    Are there hard-boiled eggs involved in this now? Are hard-boiled eggs considered a weapon of mass
    destruction?

    --
    tanx, Howard

    "We're not laughing -at- you, we're laughing -with- you..) "But... I'm not
    laughing???" Happiness

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  16. Howard Kveck said:
    Robert Chung said:
    Ewoud Dronkert said:

    On 1 Feb 2004 14:33:07 -0700, Benjamin Weiner wrote:
    > Robert Chung <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> I'll try to figure that part out after I finish getting my brain around this progression: 10
    >> months ago: Weapons of mass destruction. 7 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction programs.
    >> 3 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction-related programs. this month: Weapons of mass destruction-
    >> related program activity.
    >
    >> You know those "what's next in this series" questions?
    >
    > Conspiracy to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Next: Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity and failure
    to communicate.

    Quoted message said:

    Are there hard-boiled eggs involved in this now? Are hard-boiled eggs considered a weapon of
    mass destruction?

    If they're al-Qaida eggs, most definitely:

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  17. Benjamin Weiner said:
    Robert Chung said:
    Ewoud Dronkert said:

    > Robert Chung <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> I'll try to figure that part out after I finish getting my brain around this progression: 10
    >> months ago: Weapons of mass destruction. 7 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction programs. 3
    >> months ago: Weapons of mass destruction-related programs. this month: Weapons of mass destruction-
    >> related program activity.
    >
    >> You know those "what's next in this series" questions?
    >
    > Conspiracy to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Next: Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Quoted message said:

    Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity and failure
    to communicate.

    Operating an intended conspiracy to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity
    without DMV-approved license, registration, and proof of insurance.

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  18. Robert Chung said:
    Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Benjamin Weiner said:

    Robert Chung <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >I'll try to figure that part out after I finish getting my brain around this progression: 10
    >months ago: Weapons of mass destruction. 7 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction programs. 3
    >months ago: Weapons of mass destruction-related programs. this month: Weapons of mass destruction-
    >related program activity.

    >You know those "what's next in this series" questions?

    Conspiracy to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Next: Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity and failure
    to communicate.

    No Weapon Left Behind.

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Stewart Fleming said:
    Robert Chung said:
    Ewoud Dronkert said:

    On 1 Feb 2004 14:33:07 -0700, Benjamin Weiner wrote:

    >Robert Chung <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>I'll try to figure that part out after I finish getting my brain around this progression: 10
    >>months ago: Weapons of mass destruction. 7 months ago: Weapons of mass destruction programs. 3
    >>months ago: Weapons of mass destruction-related programs. this month: Weapons of mass destruction-
    >>related program activity.
    >
    >>You know those "what's next in this series" questions?
    >
    >Conspiracy to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Next: Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.

    Intention to conspire to commit weapons of mass destruction-related program activity and failure
    to communicate.

    No Weapon Left Behind.

    "Although a rare occurrence, men who experience an erection for more than 4 hours should seek
    immediate medical attention."

    Oh, sorry, that would be weapons of ASS destruction-related program activities...

    --
    tanx, Howard

    "We're not laughing -at- you, we're laughing -with- you..) "But... I'm not
    laughing???" Happiness

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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