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  1. My wife wants to buy green beans and roast coffee at home in small
    batches enough to make coffee for a few days at most. Apparently the
    health benefits of coffee are only available in the week that follows
    roasting (NOTE: This is not the subject of my post so please refrain
    from commenting on health benefits).

    So, the questions are as follows:

    1. Does she need special equipment or can you do this in the oven (or
    even say toaster oven)? I know you can buy a coffee roaster. What
    I'm asking is, is it necessary, or just a nice-to-have with no
    particular benefits?

    2. Can the green beans be kept frozen until they are ready to use?

    3. Any special tips?

    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at home
    if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that does not
    bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at home, I will
    ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    --

    "Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

    Dostoevski, The Idiot

  2. Michel Boucher wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at home
    if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that does not
    bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at home, I will
    ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    Patio Potatoes

    4 potatoes, sliced
    1 envelope dry onion soup mix
    1 pint sour cream
    4 tablespoons milk

    Mix soup, milk and sour cream. Place potato slices on foil and cover
    with sour cream mix. Close foil securely. Grill 45 to 50 minutes.

    --
    Best
    Greg :-)

  3. We roast our coffee in an old hot-air popcorn popper using this method:

    https://id38.securedata.net/sweetmarias/airpopmethod.html

    No need to freeze the beans, we just keep them in bags in the pantry.

    BE WARNED: once you have had truly fresh coffee, you will not be able
    to go back to grocery store coffee!

    https://id38.securedata.net/sweetmarias/coffee.central.costarica.html#laMagnolia
    is my favorite coffee, I just ordered another 10 lbs less than five
    minutes ago.

    Robyn

  4. Michel Boucher said:


    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at home
    if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that does not
    bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at home, I will
    ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    --

    "Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

    Dostoevski, The Idiot

    How can you ignore a comment without reading it first?

  5. djs0302 said:
    Michel Boucher said:


    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at home
    if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that does not
    bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at home, I will
    ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    Dostoevski, the Idiot

    How can you ignore a comment without reading it first?

    His middle name is Dostoevski.

    Sheldon

  6. Michel Boucher said:

    My wife wants to buy green beans and roast coffee at home in small
    batches enough to make coffee for a few days at most. Apparently the
    health benefits of coffee are only available in the week that follows
    roasting (NOTE: This is not the subject of my post so please refrain
    from commenting on health benefits).

    So, the questions are as follows:

    1. Does she need special equipment or can you do this in the oven (or
    even say toaster oven)? I know you can buy a coffee roaster. What
    I'm asking is, is it necessary, or just a nice-to-have with no
    particular benefits?

    2. Can the green beans be kept frozen until they are ready to use?

    3. Any special tips?

    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at home
    if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that does not
    bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at home, I will
    ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    Try here for some starter information
    http://www2.lucidcafe.com/lucidcafe/homeroast1.html

    Ken.

  7. Michel Boucher said:

    My wife wants to buy green beans and roast coffee at home in small
    batches enough to make coffee for a few days at most. Apparently the
    health benefits of coffee are only available in the week that follows
    roasting (NOTE: This is not the subject of my post so please refrain
    from commenting on health benefits).

    So, the questions are as follows:

    1. Does she need special equipment or can you do this in the oven (or
    even say toaster oven)? I know you can buy a coffee roaster. What
    I'm asking is, is it necessary, or just a nice-to-have with no
    particular benefits?

    2. Can the green beans be kept frozen until they are ready to use?

    3. Any special tips?

    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at home
    if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that does not
    bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at home, I will
    ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    Try here for some starter information
    http://www2.lucidcafe.com/lucidcafe/homeroast1.html

    Ken.

  8. "Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at home
    if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that does not
    bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at home, I will
    ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    We don't roast coffee but my wife grinds her own. I buy her good coffee,
    but I don't drink but two cups a year. I prefer tea. While I drink Ceylon
    tea, green tea has better health benefits I'm told. No roasting involved so
    it makes that morning pick-me-up even easier. Healthier too. White tea is
    OK, but too mild for my taste. Would you know if the health benefits are
    better or not?

  9. "Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

    Quoted message said:

    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at home
    if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that does not
    bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at home, I will
    ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    I have a question.

    First, background information:
    The subject line says to read the NOTEs carefully. This plural "s" denotes
    notes (hey, is that a pun?) I only see one note.

    Now the question:
    Should there be more than one note since the subject lines says NOTEs?

    So, your one note is duly noted, but other notes, if they exist, are missing
    and not noted. Unless the subject line is a typo and there should be only
    one note, the one that has been noticed noted.

  10. "Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My wife wants to buy green beans and roast coffee at home in small
    batches enough to make coffee for a few days at most. Apparently the
    health benefits of coffee are only available in the week that follows
    roasting (NOTE: This is not the subject of my post so please refrain
    from commenting on health benefits).

    So, the questions are as follows:

    1. Does she need special equipment or can you do this in the oven (or
    even say toaster oven)? I know you can buy a coffee roaster. What
    I'm asking is, is it necessary, or just a nice-to-have with no
    particular benefits?

    Get a air popper (for popcorn). It's the easiest and cheapest way to roast
    your own beans. Oven or toaster oven wouldn't work very well. You'll end up
    with very uneven roasts.

    Quoted message said:

    2. Can the green beans be kept frozen until they are ready to use?

    It's not necessary, IMO. When they're green they keep for a LONG time.

    Quoted message said:

    3. Any special tips?

    http://sweetmarias.com/ - read the Home Roasting Basics section.

    Quoted message said:


    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at home
    if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that does not
    bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at home, I will
    ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    I love home roasted coffee. Do it outside, if your able, though. The smell
    and the smoke is quite something. And don't drink it the same day you
    roast! Have fun : )

    -Jay

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Michel Boucher said:

    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at home
    if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that does not
    bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at home, I will
    ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    You're new here, aren't you?

    :-)

    My father tried roasting coffee at home. What *hasn't* my father tried?
    He used the oven, as I remember. It did smell up the house, but I
    didn't think it was unpleasant.

    At the last rfc cookin that I went to, somebody (MoMo?) brought a little
    ceramic coffee roaster and roasted some beans. I don't do coffee in the
    evening, so didn't have any. It did smell up the house, though.

    --
    Dan Abel
    [email hidden]
    Petaluma, California, USA

  12. Hope Adorned Me said:

    "Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My wife wants to buy green beans and roast coffee at home in small
    batches enough to make coffee for a few days at most. Apparently the
    health benefits of coffee are only available in the week that follows
    roasting (NOTE: This is not the subject of my post so please refrain
    from commenting on health benefits).

    So, the questions are as follows:

    1. Does she need special equipment or can you do this in the oven (or
    even say toaster oven)? I know you can buy a coffee roaster. What
    I'm asking is, is it necessary, or just a nice-to-have with no
    particular benefits?

    Get a air popper (for popcorn). It's the easiest and cheapest way to roast
    your own beans. Oven or toaster oven wouldn't work very well. You'll end up
    with very uneven roasts.

    How long do you roast it for using this method? I feel another food
    experiment coming on and might just have to go digging in the garage for
    that old air popper.

  13. Michel Boucher said:

    My wife wants to buy green beans and roast coffee at home in small
    batches enough to make coffee for a few days at most. Apparently the
    health benefits of coffee are only available in the week that follows
    roasting (NOTE: This is not the subject of my post so please refrain
    from commenting on health benefits).

    So, the questions are as follows:

    1. Does she need special equipment or can you do this in the oven (or
    even say toaster oven)? I know you can buy a coffee roaster. What
    I'm asking is, is it necessary, or just a nice-to-have with no
    particular benefits?

    You can get small coffee roasters that will roast about 55 gm of coffee
    at a time. We have one called Fresh Roast. A jiffy-pop (stove top, hand
    cranked popcorjn popper) wil also work. As you turn the crank handle,
    you will continually keep the beans in motion in order to get an even
    roast. The benefit of the coffee roaster is more even heating, it
    allows you to adjust for roast color, has a glass roasting chamber so
    you can visually check roast color, and it also separates the "silvers"
    the outside paper thin "hull" from the roasted beans. If you do it in
    the oven, you are going to have to continually stir the beans to keep
    the air flowing around them and then sift out the silvers from the
    finished beans.
    You can also roast in a fcast iron frying pan on the stove top, you
    need to get it red hot, smoking before you put the beans in it and then
    stir like crazy until they are the desired roast color. They are ready
    when they are shiny/oily looking.

    Quoted message said:

    2. Can the green beans be kept frozen until they are ready to use?

    Unless you are buying more than a years worth of beans at a time, they
    do not need to be frozen. Just keep them in an airtight container.

    Quoted message said:


    3. Any special tips?

    As soon as your beans are shiny (that's the oil) on the outside, get
    them off the heat and into a colander to cool down. When they are
    cooled and the silvers are separated out, store in an airtight
    container.

    SD

  14. ~patches~ said:
    Hope Adorned Me said:

    "Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My wife wants to buy green beans and roast coffee at home in small
    batches enough to make coffee for a few days at most. Apparently the
    health benefits of coffee are only available in the week that follows
    roasting (NOTE: This is not the subject of my post so please refrain
    from commenting on health benefits).

    So, the questions are as follows:

    1. Does she need special equipment or can you do this in the oven (or
    even say toaster oven)? I know you can buy a coffee roaster. What
    I'm asking is, is it necessary, or just a nice-to-have with no
    particular benefits?

    Get a air popper (for popcorn). It's the easiest and cheapest way to roast
    your own beans. Oven or toaster oven wouldn't work very well. You'll end up
    with very uneven roasts.

    How long do you roast it for using this method? I feel another food
    experiment coming on and might just have to go digging in the garage for
    that old air popper.

    You roast until the beans are oily/shiny looking. The degree of
    darkness is up to you. They can come out of the roaster/popper anywhere
    between light and shiny to dark, espresson roast, nearly charred.
    Lenght of time depends on how hot you popcorn popper gets.

    SD

  15. "Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My wife wants to buy green beans and roast coffee at home in small
    batches enough to make coffee for a few days at most. Apparently the
    health benefits of coffee are only available in the week that follows
    roasting (NOTE: This is not the subject of my post so please refrain
    from commenting on health benefits).

    So, the questions are as follows:

    1. Does she need special equipment or can you do this in the oven (or
    even say toaster oven)? I know you can buy a coffee roaster. What
    I'm asking is, is it necessary, or just a nice-to-have with no
    particular benefits?

    2. Can the green beans be kept frozen until they are ready to use?

    3. Any special tips?

    ========

    The only comments I can make is that we home roast and love it. The taste
    is superior to the stuff sold in the stores!

    We roast ours in an old air-popcorn popper. Works perfectly.

    There are quite a few wonderful sites that sell different types of beans
    which really adds to the excitement of home-roasting. IOE, buy several
    different beans in 1# quantities to find what you like. Just as some people
    swear by "x" brand (Folgers, Maxwell House, Starbucks, etc.) different beans
    and different roasts (dark, city, light, etc.) will yield different
    tastes... Experiment and have fun.

    --
    Syssi

  16. "djs0302" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Michel Boucher said:


    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at
    home if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that
    does not bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at
    home, I will ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    --

    "Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

    Dostoevski, The Idiot

    How can you ignore a comment without reading it first?

    I didn't say I wouldn't read it. What I meant was that I wouldn't
    respond to it. Of course, I am responding to this, but only for the
    purpose of clarification. Grrrr....

    --

    "Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

    Dostoevski, The Idiot

  17. "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Would you know if the health benefits are better or not?

    2. Fresh Roasted Beans

    High quality coffee beans are a lot like high quality grapes, they're
    a crucial ingredient, but by no means guarantee a high-quality end
    product. Great tasting coffee also relies on how soon the coffee is
    brewed and consumed after roasting. For coffee to be fresh, and best,
    it must be consumed within five days after roasting, three hours of
    grinding, and fifteen minutes of brewing. The first sign that coffee
    is stale is a bitter taste.

    http://www.merchantsofgreencoffee.com/all_about_coffee.html

    And as for health benefits:

    http://www.merchantsofgreencoffee.com/news_community.html

    --

    "Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

    Dostoevski, The Idiot

  18. Dan Abel said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Michel Boucher said:

    NOTE: I am not interested in your opinion on roasting coffee at home
    if you have never done it, so if you post a comment that does not
    bear on your personal experience with roasting coffee at home, I will
    ignore it. You have been warned :-)

    You're new here, aren't you?

    :-)

    No.. by making the above statement.. he's used newsgroups or lurked
    before.. I might have not made that kind of statement, but expected
    replies from people who've never roasted their own coffee or even
    drink coffee, but have theories.... or "my brother-in-law's friend's
    cousin said.."
    Chuck (SC)

    Quoted message said:

    My father tried roasting coffee at home. What *hasn't* my father tried?
    He used the oven, as I remember. It did smell up the house, but I
    didn't think it was unpleasant.

    At the last rfc cookin that I went to, somebody (MoMo?) brought a little
    ceramic coffee roaster and roasted some beans. I don't do coffee in the
    evening, so didn't have any. It did smell up the house, though.

  19. "SD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    You can get small coffee roasters that will roast about 55 gm of coffee
    at a time. We have one called Fresh Roast. A jiffy-pop (stove top, hand
    cranked popcorjn popper) wil also work. As you turn the crank handle,
    you will continually keep the beans in motion in order to get an even
    roast. The benefit of the coffee roaster is more even heating, it
    allows you to adjust for roast color, has a glass roasting chamber so
    you can visually check roast color, and it also separates the "silvers"
    the outside paper thin "hull" from the roasted beans. If you do it in
    the oven, you are going to have to continually stir the beans to keep
    the air flowing around them and then sift out the silvers from the
    finished beans.
    You can also roast in a fcast iron frying pan on the stove top, you
    need to get it red hot, smoking before you put the beans in it and then
    stir like crazy until they are the desired roast color. They are ready
    when they are shiny/oily looking.

    Rather than going by colour exclusively, I find it more reliable to check
    for 'doneness' according to first crack, second crack etc. As the beans
    roast, they will begin to make loud popping sounds. The first one of these
    sounds signifies "First Crack" and usually occurs 2-3 minutes into roasting.
    About 2 minutes after that, you will hear the Second Crack begin. This
    means the coffee is fairly dark already. STOP NOW if you don't want a super
    dark roast. I like to stop mine about a minute or so after first crack.
    The beans continue to roast for some time while they are cooling so it is
    important not to overdo it.

    With experience, you'll be able to know how your beans are doing by smell,
    sound AND colour.

    Using colour as your only marker is tricky as every variety of bean will
    produce a slightly different colour even when roasted at the same
    temperature.

    I find that waiting until the beans are dark and shiny before removing them
    from the roaster produces a burnt bean as they do not stop roasting
    immediately after they're removed from the roaster.

    I STRONGLY reccommend reading the sweet maria's website before roasting.
    It's an amazing guide for first time roasters.

    They also have a pictoral guide for bean roast colour which includes
    aromatic and sound cues for coffee roasting.
    http://sweetmarias.com/roasted.pict-guide.html

    Quoted message said:

    As soon as your beans are shiny (that's the oil) on the outside, get
    them off the heat and into a colander to cool down. When they are
    cooled and the silvers are separated out, store in an airtight
    container.

    They should be stored in a container that will release the gas for at LEAST
    four hours after roasting. Otherwise, the beans will not degas properly and
    may taste something nasty.

    I usually pop them in whatever container they will ultimately end up in but
    leave the lid off over night or for at least 6-8 hours.

    -Jay

    (by the way, Hello to the newsgroup!)

  20. Michel Boucher said:

    My wife wants to buy green beans and roast coffee at home in small
    batches enough to make coffee for a few days at most.

    Roasting your own coffee yields a superior food experience at LESS
    cost. This very weekend, go out and look for an old Westbend Poppery
    I or II at garage sales and/or thrift stores and you'll have
    everything you need (sans beans) to roast your own coffee. Takes
    about 8-12 mins to roast a batch that will last 2 or 3 days. One
    thing: fresh roasted coffee is better after it's aged a day or so.

    http://www.ineedcoffee.com/05/poppery/
    http://www.sweetmarias.com/airpopmethod.html
    http://my.execpc.com/~n9zes/homeroast/roast.html

    Whatever method/roaster you decide on, just do it. If you're a real
    coffee lover, you'll never regret it.

    nb

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