CN Meltdown

It is a denial of service attack!!!

Or maybe there are lots of people all over the globe trying
to access it all at once?

"Sierraman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Jt2dnZ-S7sTd13fdRVn-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Anyone else been having trouble getting into CN? I
couldn't get in all

day.

Quoted message said:

Of course doing a trace shows quite a few hops and it
timed out before I could complete the trace. Quite a few
routers, might be a few bottlenecks along the way, but it
looks like I will have to wait till late night to

read

Quoted message said:

up on the Giroess and that other race, ah... the one with
Lance in it.

Giri? Italian tours? Tours of Italy? Please not "Giroess",
where did you get that? I thought it was some kind of
network protocol I had not heard of until I realized what
you were trying to say.

Quoted message said:

Tracing route to cyclingnews.com [210.10.97.10] over a
maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out. 2 130 ms 130 ms 130 ms
641181067.sierratel.com [64.118.106.7] 3 130 ms 130 ms
140 ms 641181061.sierratel.com [64.118.106.1] 4 130 ms
130 ms 130 ms 6411898241.sierratel.com [64.118.98.241] 5
140 ms 131 ms 130 ms 6411898226.sierratel.com
[64.118.98.226] 6 140 ms 141 ms 120 ms sl-gw25-stk-4-0-
TS1.sprintlink.net
[160.81.8.137 ] 7 131 ms 140 ms 140 ms sl-bb20-stk-8-
1.sprintlink.net
[144.232.4.217]8 140 ms 130 ms 130 ms sl-bb20-sj-9-
0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.20.99]9 140 ms 141 ms 130 ms sl-st20-pa-15-
2.sprintlink.net

[144.232.9.8]

Quoted message said:

10 140 ms 141 ms 120 ms sl-newzeal-1-0.sprintlink.net
[144.223.243.18]11 290 ms 290 ms 291 ms 202.37.246.202 12
290 ms 291 ms 280 ms 202.37.245.253 13 290
ms 291 ms 290 ms 202.37.246.250 14 291 ms
290 ms 280 ms so-3-0-
3.cre1.syd.connect.com.au
[202.10.4.11]15 310 ms 321 ms 320 ms so-1-1-
0.cre1.mel.connect.com.au
[202.10..38] 16 310 ms 311 ms 310 ms
as2.cre1.ade.connect.com.au [202.10.0.225] 17 320
ms 321 ms 310 ms pos1-0.bdr2.ade.connect.com.au

[144.232.9.9]

Quoted message said:

18 320 ms 311 ms 320 ms fastethernet0-
0.cor3.ade.connect.com.au
[203.63.
113.67]19 320 ms 321 ms 330 ms ix140944-
1.gw.connect.com.au [210.8.6.237] 20 * * * Request
timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * *
Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 *
* * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed
out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request
timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

I think that Cyclingnews should plan for these huge events
(at least for the Tour!!!) and either rent some equipment or
buy a few strategically placed servers in important markets
(the US, Europe and ???) with dedicated connections back to
Australia (or is the Australian-French connection also a
problem?. That way the client PCs (ours) are only having to
get to one or two key places that are nice and fat. It seems
kind of nuts to have a global media outlet with excellent
market penetration throughout the world but is only serviced
in Australia (notorious for Internet bottlenecks and traffic
problems). Heck, even the Tour official site in France has
capacity problems even though France has much better
connectivity than Australia. Content wise Cyclingnews is THE
BEST site and has been for several years. They need to beef
up their distribution for this key event (at least). Maybe
they can set up a small server (or cluster) for the live
updates and have it served up from Europe instead of taking
it back to Australia first?

I hope the ads are up and working (I think those are
distributed like I suggest for the live updates).

Jeff, whaddya think about this?

Chris said:

Giri? Italian tours? Tours of Italy? Please not "Giroess",
where did you get that?

I think that the -ess was a feminine ending rather than
a plural...

Duh!!!!!!! Don't you realize they are a little busy
right now??

On 7/5/04 11:44 PM, in article Jt2dnZ-S7sTd13fdRVn-

Quoted post said:

Anyone else been having trouble getting into CN? I
couldn't get in all day. Of course doing a trace shows
quite a few hops and it timed out before I could complete
the trace. Quite a few routers, might be a few bottlenecks
along the way, but it looks like I will have to wait till
late night to read up on the Giroess and that other race,
ah... the one with Lance in it.

Tracing route to cyclingnews.com [210.10.97.10] over a
maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out. 2 130 ms 130 ms 130 ms
641181067.sierratel.com [64.118.106.7] 3 130 ms 130 ms
140 ms 641181061.sierratel.com [64.118.106.1] 4 130 ms
130 ms 130 ms 6411898241.sierratel.com [64.118.98.241] 5
140 ms 131 ms 130 ms 6411898226.sierratel.com
[64.118.98.226] 6 140 ms 141 ms 120 ms sl-gw25-stk-4-0-
TS1.sprintlink.net
[160.81.8.137 ] 7 131 ms 140 ms 140 ms sl-bb20-stk-8-
1.sprintlink.net
[144.232.4.217]8 140 ms 130 ms 130 ms sl-bb20-sj-9-
0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.20.99]9 140 ms 141 ms 130 ms sl-st20-pa-15-
2.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.8] 10 140 ms
141 ms 120 ms sl-newzeal-1-
0.sprintlink.net
[144.223.243.18]11 290 ms 290 ms 291 ms 202.37.246.202 12
290 ms 291 ms 280 ms 202.37.245.253 13 290
ms 291 ms 290 ms 202.37.246.250 14 291 ms
290 ms 280 ms so-3-0-
3.cre1.syd.connect.com.au
[202.10.4.11]15 310 ms 321 ms 320 ms so-1-1-
0.cre1.mel.connect.com.au
[202.10..38] 16 310 ms 311 ms 310 ms
as2.cre1.ade.connect.com.au [202.10.0.225] 17 320
ms 321 ms 310 ms pos1-0.bdr2.ade.connect.com.au
[202.10.4.86] 18 320 ms 311 ms 320 ms fastethernet0-
0.cor3.ade.connect.com.au
[203.63.
113.67]19 320 ms 321 ms 330 ms ix140944-
1.gw.connect.com.au [210.8.6.237] 20 * * * Request
timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * *
Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 *
* * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed
out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request
timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

It is a denial of service attack!!!

Or maybe there are lots of people all over the globe
trying to access it all at once?

"Sierraman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Jt2dnZ-S7sTd13fdRVn-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Anyone else been having trouble getting into CN? I
couldn't get in all

day.

Quoted message said:

Of course doing a trace shows quite a few hops and it
timed out before I could complete the trace. Quite a few
routers, might be a few bottlenecks along the way, but
it looks like I will have to wait till late night to

read

Quoted message said:

up on the Giroess and that other race, ah... the one
with Lance in it.

Giri? Italian tours? Tours of Italy? Please not "Giroess",
where did you get that? I thought it was some kind of
network protocol I had not heard of until I realized what
you were trying to say.

Quoted message said:

Tracing route to cyclingnews.com [210.10.97.10] over a
maximum of 30 hops:

[rest of traceroute snipped]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

I think that Cyclingnews should plan for these huge events
(at least for the Tour!!!)

You think it's bad now? Heck, wait for the TTT, mountain top
finishes of La Mongie, Plateau de Beille, l'Alpe d'Huez ITT,
Besançon ITT and final stage. You'll see saturation then.

I think they should move the server off that Tandy 1200 Jeff
has trussed up with bailing wire and bubble gum. Maybe live
dangerously and move up to a 60 MHz Pentium based system.

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You think it's bad now? Heck, wait for the TTT, mountain
top finishes of La Mongie, Plateau de Beille, l'Alpe
d'Huez ITT, Besançon ITT and final stage. You'll see
saturation then.

No, it was to do with our page construction, which we have
now made more efficient. I'm not saying there won't be any
problems, especially after our sysadmins decided to change
the servers in the middle of the Tour. Calm blue ocean.

Quoted message said:

I think they should move the server off that Tandy 1200
Jeff has trussed up with bailing wire and bubble gum.
Maybe live dangerously and move up to a 60 MHz Pentium
based system.

Way out of our budget. I'm going to unwrap the VIC 20 for
the really big stages. Actually in the not too distant
past, our server was a souped up 486(!) with a single ISDN
line as a pipe.

Jeff

Richard Adams said:

Quoted message said:

I think they should move the server off that Tandy 1200
Jeff has trussed up with bailing wire and bubble gum.
Maybe live dangerously and move up to a 60 MHz Pentium
based system.

Jeff Jones said:

Way out of our budget. I'm going to unwrap the VIC 20 for
the really big stages. Actually in the not too distant
past, our server was a souped up 486(!) with a single ISDN
line as a pipe.

You mean you haven't found an ethernet card for your
Sinclair ZX81 yet ?

"Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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You mean you haven't found an ethernet card for your
Sinclair ZX81 yet ?

What's the ethernet? Is that like the Internet or something?

Jeff

Jeff Jones said:

What's the ethernet? Is that like the Internet or
something?

No it's wireless internet, with packet routing through the
ether ietf.orgrfc1149.txtOpen ↗

"Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Jeff Jones said:

What's the ethernet? Is that like the Internet or
something?

No it's wireless internet, with packet routing through the
ether ietf.orgrfc1149.txtOpen ↗

We must look into these Avian carriers.

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Quoted message said:

No it's wireless internet, with packet routing through
the ether ietf.orgrfc1149.txtOpen ↗

Jeff Jones said:

We must look into these Avian carriers.

Actually bongo drums form a much cleaner and more reliable
transport layer (see
eagle.auc.caindex.htmlOpen ↗).

I wonder if they tried running SAMBA over bongo drums ?

Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Jeff Jones said:

What's the ethernet? Is that like the Internet or
something?

No it's wireless internet, with packet routing through the
ether ietf.orgrfc1149.txtOpen ↗

Not necessarily wireless, ethernet can be wire, fibre or
wireless (or probably even bucket brigade if you had enough
people to work out the protocol with.)

Richard Adams said:

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Jeff Jones said:

What's the ethernet? Is that like the Internet or
something?

No it's wireless internet, with packet routing through
the ether ietf.orgrfc1149.txtOpen ↗

Not necessarily wireless, ethernet can be wire, fibre or
wireless (or probably even bucket brigade if you had enough
people to work out the protocol with.)

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