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  1. I'm 16 and I plan on starting a new hobby of cycling with the purchase of a road bike. I've been reading around for just the past few days on bike basics and one thing I want cleared up is how clipless pedals work, and possibly what model you use?

    Special shoes clip into special pedals in order to allow more power per stroke, I know that much. Is it easy to clip on, or must you fiddle around with the pedal to find the right side and connection? I assume it is easy to take off, or at least easier than the old-fashioned straps. One .pdf manual for a shimano pedal said you have to do some twisting action in a particular direction to slip them off, which probably would become second nature over time.

    I plan on using the bike for practical purposes too, like riding to campus and back, and I'd rather not change shoes every time I get off the bike. That is what interested me in the Shimano SH-MO20 footwear. The pedals I am interested in are the PD-A515s or the more pricey PD-R535s.

    Opinions? Comments?

    xeu

    PS. Just in case it matters, I plan on getting a Giant model (the cheapest composite available, which I believe is the TCR Composite 2). I want something that is conservative in appearance and price. If you know of a different model or brand that could better meet this goal, please mention that too.

  2. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by xeu
    I'm 16 and I plan on starting a new hobby of cycling with the purchase of a road bike. I've been reading around for just the past few days on bike basics and one thing I want cleared up is how clipless pedals work, and possibly what model you use?

    Special shoes clip into special pedals in order to allow more power per stroke, I know that much. Is it easy to clip on, or must you fiddle around with the pedal to find the right side and connection? I assume it is easy to take off, or at least easier than the old-fashioned straps. One .pdf manual for a shimano pedal said you have to do some twisting action in a particular direction to slip them off, which probably would become second nature over time.

    I plan on using the bike for practical purposes too, like riding to campus and back, and I'd rather not change shoes every time I get off the bike. That is what interested me in the Shimano SH-MO20 footwear. The pedals I am interested in are the PD-A515s or the more pricey PD-R535s.

    Opinions? Comments?

    xeu

    PS. Just in case it matters, I plan on getting a Giant model (the cheapest composite available, which I believe is the TCR Composite 2). I want something that is conservative in appearance and price. If you know of a different model or brand that could better meet this goal, please mention that too.

    Some advice based on my personal experience and what I've learned from other riders:

    A good start is to check out whether there are any compatibility issues; the cleat has to fit into the mount located at the bottom of the shoe.

    Don't rule out any options without a careful consideration. In addition to SPD, SPD-R and SPD-SL there are pedaling systems available from Time, Look, Speedplay, Crankbothers, Miche, Bebop etc.

    The idea of clipless pedals is to attach your shoes to the pedals for better pedaling efficiency. Secondly, (or more importantly) your feet maintain the correct position even if you're fatigued or riding on rough road surface. To step in just press on your foot against the pedal (in slight angle). To release, twist your heel outwards. Multi-release cleats allow several methods of release.

    The ease of use depends on the pedals, some are easy step into, some are easier to release. Some (cleats) offer float (free movement), some don't.

    Many of the pedals allow you to adjust the spring tension, some even the amount of movement needed for the release. The more tension, the more you need to use force. SPD dual-function pedals (platform on one side, clipless on another) may cause some fiddling because the platform-side turns on top by default. No matter what pedals you use, it takes some time to get used to them. On your first ride (you really should practise first) with the pedals, make sure you have all the time and space you need for releasing. After few rides, you should already feel quite comfortable.

    Pick shoes that fit your feet. Pay attention especially to the sole width. I'd recommend a pair of true road/mtb shoes if you're off the bike just occasionally. Recreational shoes introduce more flexible bottom (worse for cycling, easier for walking) and approach-style looks. For conservative appearance, take a look at models with darkish colours. Opt for quality. If you do cycling as a method of exercising rather than commuting, don't mind the appearance but the functionality.

  3. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by xeu
    I'm 16 and I plan on starting a new hobby of cycling with the purchase of a road bike. I've been reading around for just the past few days on bike basics and one thing I want cleared up is how clipless pedals work, and possibly what model you use?

    Special shoes clip into special pedals in order to allow more power per stroke, I know that much. Is it easy to clip on, or must you fiddle around with the pedal to find the right side and connection? I assume it is easy to take off, or at least easier than the old-fashioned straps. One .pdf manual for a shimano pedal said you have to do some twisting action in a particular direction to slip them off, which probably would become second nature over time.

    I plan on using the bike for practical purposes too, like riding to campus and back, and I'd rather not change shoes every time I get off the bike. That is what interested me in the Shimano SH-MO20 footwear. The pedals I am interested in are the PD-A515s or the more pricey PD-R535s.

    Opinions? Comments?

    xeu

    PS. Just in case it matters, I plan on getting a Giant model (the cheapest composite available, which I believe is the TCR Composite 2). I want something that is conservative in appearance and price. If you know of a different model or brand that could better meet this goal, please mention that too.

    If you plan on walking around on the shoes, the Sh-M020 is a good choice. However, they are only spd compatible, which would leave you with the PD-515. I actually use the PD-515 now, but am upgrading to the R600, due to the purchase of a new Cannondale R2000:p .

    The Spd's a a good pedal to start out with, but if you really want to get serious, I would recommend a pure road cycling shoe and Spd-r's if you dont want to put out some heavy cash.

  4. Thanks for replying.

    isdsms,

    Apparently I didn't check compatability so as it stands I'll go for the 515's. How's your experience with them? You said your upgrading with the coming of a new bike so I assume its not because you didn't like the pedals. Are they solid, or too small for someone with big feet? Are they dual-function, or do they always flip right-side up?

    pysays,

    Right now I'm going for Shimano since I figure its a big brand and better quality than some of the others. I may change my mind when I actually go to the bike shop to buy some but right now they look good.

    The TCR Composite 2 is dark but even it is a little more elaborate than I want (maybe the silver version will look less showy). I'm also concerned about the price, which is over $2000. I guess thats the price you must pay for carbon...

    xeu

  5. I have 515s on my mountain bike at the moment (used to have them on my road bike too, until I switched to the R600 SPD-SLs.) They are cheap and indestructible, but heavy and no good in muddy conditions.

    Shimano have just recently replaced the 515s with the 520; this is a newer, lighter design (based on their flagship 959 model) at similar prices.

    For what it's worth, they have also just recently brought out an even cheaper SPD-SL (wide road cleat) pedal too. You can also find cheap LOOK pedals about too, from a number of mail-order places. These provide a much more stable pedalling platform (great for longer rides), but they aren't as walkable as a recessed cleat like SPD, Eggbeater, Time etc.

    I would not worry at all about quality from the major pedal (Shimano, LOOK, Crank Bros, Time, Speedplay) or shoe (Shimano, Carnac, Sidi, Specialized, etc.) manufacturers.

    BTW if you are going road biking, I would recommend buying a shoe that has a stiffer sole -- no matter what pedal type you end up buying. You will be much more efficient and comfortable over longer rides.

  6. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by rek
    I have 515s on my mountain bike at the moment (used to have them on my road bike too, until I switched to the R600 SPD-SLs.) They are cheap and indestructible, but heavy and no good in muddy conditions.

    Shimano have just recently replaced the 515s with the 520; this is a newer, lighter design (based on their flagship 959 model) at similar prices.

    For what it's worth, they have also just recently brought out an even cheaper SPD-SL (wide road cleat) pedal too. You can also find cheap LOOK pedals about too, from a number of mail-order places. These provide a much more stable pedalling platform (great for longer rides), but they aren't as walkable as a recessed cleat like SPD, Eggbeater, Time etc.

    I would not worry at all about quality from the major pedal (Shimano, LOOK, Crank Bros, Time, Speedplay) or shoe (Shimano, Carnac, Sidi, Specialized, etc.) manufacturers.

    BTW if you are going road biking, I would recommend buying a shoe that has a stiffer sole -- no matter what pedal type you end up buying. You will be much more efficient and comfortable over longer rides.

    Having shoes that I can walk around in is a must. In Shimano's case, SPD seems to be the only option. I like the MO20 design, and the 520s are real light on your wallet ($52 @ Amazon). If anybody has any more information on this model please pass it on : )

    xeu

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