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  1. All,

    A quick question on working clipless pedals. I finally got
    shoes/cleat for my SPD pedals and tried around parking lot a
    couple of times. I set the tension to the lowest, but I'm
    still having a hard time releasing it. Only reliable way to
    get off it is to lift my heel and then twist out. If I have
    my foot flat or pressed down, it takes a struggle to get it
    off. I'm thinking the problem could be either that the
    binding has too much float, or my ankle does not have enough
    lateral flexiblity to overcome the float when the foot is
    flat. Does anybody have suggestion that I could try to
    remedy the problem?

    Thanks in advance. tk

  2. "TK Sung" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    A quick question on working clipless pedals. I finally got
    shoes/cleat for my SPD pedals and tried around parking lot
    a couple of times. I set the tension to the lowest, but
    I'm still having a hard time releasing it.

    Are you using the cleats that came with the pedals? Did you
    install them with the correct orientation? Are the pedals
    Shimano or a clone?

  3. Not sure if I am reading this wrong, but it sounds to me,
    everything is working as it should. The only way to get out
    of clips is to twist you heal out to release.

    Maybe I am reading this wrong. Curt

    "TK Sung" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    All,

    A quick question on working clipless pedals. I finally got
    shoes/cleat


    for

    Quoted message said:

    my SPD pedals and tried around parking lot a couple of
    times. I set the tension to the lowest, but I'm still
    having a hard time releasing it.


    Only

    Quoted message said:

    reliable way to get off it is to lift my heel and then
    twist out. If I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    my foot flat or pressed down, it takes a struggle to get
    it off. I'm thinking the problem could be either that the
    binding has too much float,


    or

    Quoted message said:

    my ankle does not have enough lateral flexiblity to
    overcome the float


    when

    Quoted message said:

    the foot is flat. Does anybody have suggestion that I
    could try to remedy the problem?

    Thanks in advance. tk

  4. They are working as they are supposed to. That IS how you
    release - twist your heel to the right and pull out.

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  5. I agree with the previous posts, and would add that the more
    tense and nervous you become, the harder it is to release. I
    know it's easier said than done, but try not to think about
    what you're doing as you try to release!

    As someone else said, check that you have the right cleats
    for your pedals. Also, it's not unknown for shoe soles to
    foul the pedal body. Usually you'd notice this on engaging
    the cleat with the pedal - it will be hard to lock
    in. You can check whether this is a problem by locking
    the shoe to the pedal without having your foot in
    the shoe (if you see what I mean!). It may be
    possible to trim the sole with a sharp knife if this
    proves to be an issue.

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  6. After using spd cleats for 4 years, I still cannot move my
    left heel outward to release my left shoe. I always move my
    heel inward on the left side to release. Have you tried
    doing that?

    Bill

  7. "Ken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "TK Sung" <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Are you using the cleats that came with the pedals? Did
    you install them with the correct orientation? Are the
    pedals Shimano or a clone?


    No, no cleat came with the pedals. I bought them with the
    shoes. I installed it so that my toe will point as far
    inward as possible so that I could twist out the
    farthest. The pedals are Shimano 5xx, I think, that came
    with Giant OCR 2.

  8. "curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Not sure if I am reading this wrong, but it sounds to me,
    everything is working as it should. The only way to get
    out of clips is to twist you


    heal

    Quoted message said:

    out to release.


    But would that cause problem when climbing or in emergency
    situation? I'd think I'll be pressing my foot down in
    either situation, and the bindings won't release easy if I
    do that. I have to reduce the pressure by lifting the heel
    to release.

  9. TK Sung said:

    "curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Not sure if I am reading this wrong, but it sounds to me,
    everything is working as it should. The only way to get
    out of clips is to twist you heal out to release.


    But would that cause problem when climbing or in emergency
    situation? I'd think I'll be pressing my foot down in
    either situation, and the bindings won't release easy if I
    do that. I have to reduce the pressure by lifting the heel
    to release.

    Are you wearing road shoes or mtb? Sounds like the shoes'
    soles are "rubbing" against the pedal body and making
    unclipping difficult; hence lifting the heel makes it a
    bit easier.

    You might try shaving some rubber off around the cleats if
    that's the case.

    Also, try lubing the cleats before each ride for a
    while...and PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE! They might just need
    to "wear in" somewhat to become easier to release.

    Finally, if all else fails, read the directions that came
    with the pedals. You might have the cleats installed funkily
    (today's fun {non?} word), or even wrong.

    Bill "find a grassy field and fall over a few times" S.

  10. "TK Sung" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    All,

    A quick question on working clipless pedals. I finally got
    shoes/cleat for my SPD pedals and tried around parking lot
    a couple of times. I set the tension to the lowest, but
    I'm still having a hard time releasing it. Only reliable
    way to get off it is to lift my heel and then twist out.
    If I have my foot flat or pressed down, it takes a
    struggle to get it off. I'm thinking the problem could be
    either that the binding has too much float, or my ankle
    does not have enough lateral flexiblity to overcome the
    float when the foot is flat. Does anybody have suggestion
    that I could try to remedy the problem?

    Shimano makes 2 styles of SPD cleats, "single-release" and
    "multi-release". If you have the former, you might prefer
    the latter. Multi-release cleats disengage with either a
    twist or a roll. I find them much easier to use since the
    rolling motion is more natural for me.

    New pedals are sometimes difficult to en/disengage, I've
    good luck lubricating cleats. If your foot is loose in the
    shoe, disengaging can also be tough sometimes.

  11. "maxo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Can you adjust the float?


    Doesn't appear to be. It's Shimano M505 that came with the
    bike.

  12. S o r n i said:


    Are you wearing road shoes or mtb? Sounds like the shoes'
    soles are "rubbing" against the pedal body and making
    unclipping difficult; hence lifting the heel makes it a
    bit easier.

    You might try shaving some rubber off around the cleats if
    that's the case.

    I'll second this as a possible place to look. Made a huge
    difference on my first pair of clipless.

  13. " S o r n i" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Are you wearing road shoes or mtb?


    It's a mtb shoes. They told me it's just fine for road bike,
    so I took it since it was the most comfortable..

    Quoted message said:


    You might try shaving some rubber off around the cleats if
    that's the


    case.

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks, I'll try that. I examined the shoes, and I indeed
    see scratch marks on the inner tread near the cleat. It
    appears that the cleat also got rotated slightly, probably
    beacause I used so much force when I was struggling, mking
    it even more difficult to twist out. I'll fix those two and
    report back on Monday after 25 mi ride!

  14. "TK Sung" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    It appears that the cleat also got rotated slightly,
    probably beacause I used so much force when I was
    struggling, mking it even more difficult to twist out


    Um, never mind that. I got disoriented and confused lateral
    and medial motion, probably because I was playing with the
    shoes without my foot in it. The cleat is just fine.

  15. "Peter Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    If your foot is loose in the shoe, disengaging can also be
    tough sometimes.


    Thanks, I'll try to fully lace up my shoes next time. I just
    velcroed it without lacing it up when I was testing.

  16. " S o r n i" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Bill "find a grassy field and fall over a few times" S.


    Oh, and any suggestions how to do this with a road bike? I
    thought about it before, but road bikes don't go well on a
    grass. I suppose I still could do it since the objective
    is to fall..

  17. "Simon D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I agree with the previous posts, and would add that the
    more tense and nervous you become, the harder it is to
    release.


    Great, that is assuring :-)

  18. "TK Sung" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Ken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "TK Sung" <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Are you using the cleats that came with the pedals? Did
    you install them with the correct orientation? Are the
    pedals Shimano or a clone?


    No, no cleat came with the pedals. I bought them with the
    shoes. I installed it so that my toe will point as far
    inward as possible so that I could twist out the
    farthest. The pedals are Shimano 5xx, I think, that came
    with Giant OCR 2.

    Isn't this your problem? If I understand what you're saying,
    your logic is backwards. By setting the cleats up so that
    your toes point inwards, you've already used up most of the
    available motion in your ankle to kick your heel further
    out. To release, you'd practically have to turn your foot
    sideways (toes pointing inwards across the frame). Or if you
    prefer: no you don't have enough ankle flexibility. Apart
    from professional ballerinas, no one else does either.

    Try them "straight" and see if they work better. Then adjust
    in small increments to find the position that your knees and
    ankles are looking for. BTW, they may not be symmetrical.

    Peter Storey

  19. "Peter Storey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Isn't this your problem? If I understand what you're
    saying, your logic is backwards. By setting the cleats up
    so that your toes point inwards, you've already used up
    most of the available motion in your ankle to kick your
    heel further out.


    Sorry, I got it backwards. I meant toes pointing outwards,
    not inwards. There are enough float that this doesn't seem
    to be a problem.

  20. "Peter Storey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Isn't this your problem? If I understand what you're
    saying, your logic is backwards. By setting the cleats up
    so that your toes point inwards, you've already used up
    most of the available motion in your ankle to kick your
    heel further out.


    Sorry, I got it backwards. I meant toes pointing outwards,
    not inwards. There are enough float that this doesn't seem
    to be a problem.

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