Clarkson at it again.

Simon Mason said:

From yesterday's Sun:

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zsun3.htm

his e-mail address is [email hidden] in case anyone
wants to respond to his excellent points!

Actually, I agree with most of them but you've got to remember, it was
written for the Sun. Hardly worth getting excited about.

Tim

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:12:41 +0100 someone who may be "Simon Mason"
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His first four "points" simply demonstrate that he is either an
idiot, or is pretending to be an idiot.

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David Hansen said:

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:12:41 +0100 someone who may be "Simon Mason"
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

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http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zsun3.htm

His first four "points" simply demonstrate that he is either an
idiot, or is pretending to be an idiot.

Bully, more like.

Why is it that it is perfectly all right for cars to pass a slow moving
cyclist but not all right for a cyclist to pass slow moving cars?

Though I did enjoy seeing him getting beaten by a marathon runner over
the marathon course in last weeks TG.

...d

Simon Mason came up with the following;:

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From yesterday's Sun:

Heheheheh, so it hardly matters then, really. 😉

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In message <[email hidden]>

Simon Mason said:

From yesterday's Sun:

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zsun3.htm

his e-mail address is [email hidden] in case anyone wants to
respond to his excellent points!

Conspirering and Incitement to cause a criminal offence.
Threatening behaviour.

And I pay my council tax, which pays for the road I ride on.

Martin.

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Simon Mason came up with the following;:

Quoted message said:

From yesterday's Sun:

Heheheheh, so it hardly matters then, really. 😉

Other than the fact that it's the biggest selling newspaper in the UK, yes
it doesn't matter ;-)

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In message <[email hidden]>, Martin Dann
<[email hidden]> writes

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In message <[email hidden]>

Simon Mason said:

From yesterday's Sun:

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zsun3.htm

his e-mail address is [email hidden] in case anyone wants to
respond to his excellent points!

Conspirering and Incitement to cause a criminal offence.
Threatening behaviour.

And I pay my council tax, which pays for the road I ride on.

Martin.

The fact remains that the majority of roads in this country were built
before the invention of the internal combustion engine. Road tax may
help pay for the upkeep and repair of them, but if there wasn't so much
traffic on the road they wouldn't need to be repaired so often. I
strongly object to his contention that cyclists are "guests" of
motorists who have paid for the roads. This sort of mentality is
becoming more widespread unfortunately. What about horses, and vintage
cars exempt from Road Tax- are they "guests" too who should get out of
they way of speeding morons like Clarkson and get what they deserve if
carved up?

I used to think Clarkson was funny, but now I think he is just a jerk
--
David Bentley

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:12:41 +0100, "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

From yesterday's Sun:

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zsun3.htm

his e-mail address is [email hidden] in case anyone wants to
respond to his excellent points!

Point five is good.

Simon Mason said:

Other than the fact that it's the biggest selling newspaper in the UK, yes
it doesn't matter ;-)

With an especially strong readership amongst WVM.

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

"David Bentley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message I

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strongly object to his contention that cyclists are "guests" of motorists
who have paid for the roads. This sort of mentality is becoming more
widespread unfortunately. What about horses, and vintage cars exempt from
Road Tax- are they "guests" too who should get out of they way of
speeding morons like Clarkson and get what they deserve if carved up?

Here's part of my reply to him:

4)
Do not curse at motorists - we "own" the road.

Well, as I said, I have a car, which I usually leave at home. Since I cycle
6000 miles a year, I am not wearing out the 6000 miles worth of road I have
paid for. Whereas someone like yourself is wearing out far more road than a
normal punter. So if anything - you owe *me* money! Besides, I can ride on
the road without paying anything whereas car drivers need to buy a special
licence every year to do so.

2) Do not pull up to the front of junctions.

Can't agree with you here. If I'd have wanted to sit at the back of a queue
of traffic breathing in diesel smoke, I'd have used my car. Besides, why do
you think a lot of junctions now have a green "cycle box" at the head of the
queue? So we aren't held up by flaming cars!

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http://www.simonmason.karoo.net

Simon Mason said:

Here's part of my reply to him:

I just laughed my head off at (2) and said yeah right. How you going to
do that when you can't even beat a runner round London.

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

Simon Mason said:

From yesterday's Sun:

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zsun3.htm

The guy is obviously jealous of us cyclists,as we all have finely
toned,muscular physiques - not like his famous 'beer-gut hanging over
jeans' look.

David Bentley said:

The fact remains that the majority of roads in this country were built
before the invention of the internal combustion engine.

The majority of *routes* may have been established before the invention of
the internal combustion engine, but I think it's fair to say that virtually
every road, short of some dirt tracks, has been at least resurfaced, if not
rebuilt from the foundations up, in the last 100 years.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asphalt ...
-----------------
.... Tarmac is short for "tar-macadam", meaning a coating of tar (or bitumen)
on the surface of a macadamised road - this being the near-universal modern
method of road construction invented by John MacAdam near the end of the
18th Century. It involves laying a well-drained foundation of large stones,
overlaid with crushed rock, which is bound with gravel, watered, and
compacted to form a tough, durable roadway which can shed rainwater and
stand up to heavy traffic. ... By the end of the 19th Century, his methods
had been adopted all over the world. With the rise of the bicycle and the
motor car came the final refinment: spreading a thin layer of asphalt over
the surface of a macadised road to form "tar-macadam" or, as it is called
today, "tarmac".

-----------------

And http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-tarmac.htm ...
-----------------
.... Near the end of the 18th century, a man by the name of John MacAdam
first invented the method of "macadamizing" pavement by adding a layer of
crushed gravel to surface a road. However, over time the gravel tended to
grind and disintegrate. While it was fine for carriages and horses, newly
invented motor cars would turn up huge dust clouds and send rocks flying
from beneath their wheels.

Then, as luck would have it, British businessman E. Purnell Hooley was
passing a tarworks factory in 1901, when he reportedly noticed a barrel of
tar had spilled over the macadamized roadway. Someone had dumped gravel on
the tar to cover it, and in traveling over this section of road, Hooley
observed there was far less dust.

Based on this discovery, Hooley set out to make his own pavement mixture and
launched a company to sell it. The company was Tar Macadam, and after
changing hands in 1905, "Tarmac" became a huge success. ...

-----------------

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www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:24:31 +0100 someone who may be "Tim Downie"
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Actually, I agree with most of them

Really? So you approve of people driving over cyclists who "get in
the way"?

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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:43:50 GMT someone who may be David Bentley
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Road tax

There is no such thing.

There was once something that could be called Road Tax. It was
abolished in the Finance Act 1936.

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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:29:18 GMT someone who may be "Wally"
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The majority of *routes* may have been established before the invention of
the internal combustion engine, but I think it's fair to say that virtually
every road, short of some dirt tracks, has been at least resurfaced, if not
rebuilt from the foundations up, in the last 100 years.

And the people who campaigned for this first were cyclists.

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David Hansen said:

Quoted message said:

Actually, I agree with most of them

Really? So you approve of people driving over cyclists who "get in
the way"?

I think he was trying to be satirical.

I've emailed him and invited him to join me on one of the National
Standard courses I run for children.

Tony Raven said:

Simon Mason said:

Other than the fact that it's the biggest selling newspaper in the UK,
yes it doesn't matter ;-)

With an especially strong readership amongst WVM.

Most of whom probably jump from the picture on page 3 to the pictures on
the footy pages, largely ignoring the words inbetween.

By tomorrow those pages will be lining the slimy chips and battered
sausages of WVM lunches. I wonder how many of them make it beyond their
fifties...?

--
Chris

David Bentley said:

I used to think Clarkson was funny, but now I think he is just a jerk

Me too - proof there is no god because he's pretty wealthy on the back
of being a petrol head. Personally, I think he's a prize twunt; the day
he drives into a tree somewhere won't come soon enough for me...

--
Chris