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  1. chicagotribune.comchi 0405180043may18,1,4385160.story

    BIVALVE BEVERAGES IN THE NEWS

    Why is it consumers clam up when it comes to Clamato?

    By Matthew Kauffman

    May 18, 2004

    If it weren't for the tens of millions of gallons that
    people voluntarily consume every year, you'd swear the stuff
    was a "Saturday Night Live" joke: a bottled drink that
    combines tomatoes and spices "and a great clam taste."

    Clams. Now that's refreshment!

    Welcome to the improbable world of Clamato, which
    stands alone in the supremely narrow "seafood blends"
    beverage category.

    Clamato has been around 35 years and it has shelf space in
    virtually every supermarket in America. Despite its
    ubiquity, Clamato has not caught on with the nation's vast
    Anglo market, although it has long been a popular choice
    among U.S. Hispanics.

    And therein lies a thorny challenge for Clamato's maker,
    Stamford, Conn.-based Mott's Inc.

    Clamato plays a distant second to V8 in the "red juice"
    category, but it's eager to gain market share. To get there,
    should Mott's try to knock down what it dryly calls "the
    clam barrier" and go after the 98 percent of Anglo consumers
    who snub the product?

    Or should the company devote its marketing resources to
    expanding its hold on the core Hispanic market, which,
    although smaller, has shown its affinity for Clamato?

    Seven years ago, marketers at Mott's made their choice. And
    they chose wrong.

    Clamato's brand managers never had a clear sense of why
    there is such a strong ethnic split on Clamato, and they
    tend to play down one widely rumored explanation: Clamato's
    underground reputation as an aphrodisiac in some Hispanic
    communities.

    "That could play a role," said Georg Rasinski, Clamato's
    senior brand manager. "But I think it's the taste profile in
    general, and then being based on tomatoes. I mean, for
    Mexicans, tomatoes are just part of their diet.

    "I think it's the seafood/tomato combination," he continues.
    "Have you had ceviche? The seafood cocktail? That's a little
    bit where this product plays
    in. You see it all along the beaches. People drink it a lot
    in Acapulco. It's just part of the palate of the
    Latino, I think."

    But if that completely explained Clamato's appeal, then the
    product ought to do equally well with Italians, who know a
    thing or two about combining tomatoes and seafood.

    Whatever the reason for the Anglo clam barrier, Mott's
    figured in 1997 that if skeptical U.S. consumers would just
    try Clamato, they'd be hooked. So the company adopted a light-
    hearted campaign, with the ill-conceived tagline: "Great
    Taste. 99.9 percent Clam-Free."

    But consumers, of course, weren't turned off by Clamato
    because it had too much clamminess. The psychological
    barrier was that it contained clam juice at all. Telling
    Anglo consumers that Clamato didn't have all that much of
    the ingredient that grossed them out was no way to move the
    merchandise.

    And by trying to minimize the clam content, Mott's focus on
    fish might have only bolstered the barrier.

    "When you look at it now," Rasinski says candidly of the $14
    million campaign, "you wonder why we did that."

    Saying adios to market

    But the company learned from its missteps, and in 2000,
    Mott's said "adios" to the general market, dumped its big ad
    agency in favor of a small Latino shop and developed Spanish-
    language ads for television, radio and billboards in key
    Hispanic markets around the country.

    It worked, boosting sales by hundreds of thousands of cases
    and winning accolades for its architect, marketing director
    Omar Garcia, who developed advertising campaigns positioning
    Clamato as a fun social-occasion drink.

    He also built a small cadre of field marketing managers who
    still work directly with small grocers in Hispanic markets,
    arranging in-store promotions as well as samplings at mass
    events in the community.

    Mott's also has extended the line in the last two years,
    developing Clamato Campestre, with roasted garlic, cilantro
    and Worcestershire sauce; and more recently, Clamato
    Energia, which competes in the popular energy drink category
    led by Red Bull.

    Rasinski has followed Garcia's lead, and last week he
    launched a new Spanish-language ad campaign with the tagline
    "Anima tu Dia" ("Liven up your day"😉 to position Clamato as
    an "any time" drink.

    Today, although Clamato has just 6 percent of the "red
    juice" category, it has a 27 percent share among Hispanic
    consumers in the United States, and that number has grown
    nearly 20 percent in the last four years.

    Breaking through the barrier

    But Mott's is still haunted by the clam barrier, and there
    ought to be some way to break through it. While Clamato is
    strong in Mexico and parts of Central America, it is also a
    huge seller in Canada, thanks to a twist of fate decades
    ago. Shortly before Clamato was developed, bartender Walter
    Chell was asked to invent a drink to celebrate the opening
    of a restaurant. He came up with a concoction that combined
    Vodka, tomato juice, Worcestershire sauce and mashed clams,
    with a celery stick garnish.

    It's called the Bloody Caesar. And while it has been
    described derisively (on this side of the border) as the
    illegitimate offspring of a Bloody Mary and Manhattan Clam
    Chowder, it is essentially the National Cocktail of Canada,
    with 250 million mixed every year, in a population barely
    one-tenth that of the United States. Clam barrier? What
    clam barrier?

    Mott's tried to export the Bloody Caesar to the United
    States a few years ago, but the effort fizzled. Still,
    Garcia hasn't given up on the non-Hispanic U.S. market, and
    he's mindful that in food, as in dance and music, U.S.
    Anglos have been warming to Latin culture in recent years.
    Clamato, he said, one day might try to ride that wave to
    finally break through.

    "I have this idea in the back of my mind: OK, Latin is cool.
    When are we going to take advantage of that?" he said. "At
    this point in time, we still feel like there's sufficient
    growth in the Latino market. But that could be one of the
    angles to go after the general market."

    </

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    BIVALVE BEVERAGES IN THE NEWS

    Why is it consumers clam up when it comes to Clamato?

    <snippage>

    Damn, I love Clamato! It's right there in the juice ghetto,
    along with prune and carrot juices, but I grab a bottle
    every shopping trip. Admittedly, it's not as fresh as V-8,
    but it's different enough to warrant me buying both.

    Jack Mottsovalvolene

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    BIVALVE BEVERAGES IN THE NEWS

    Why is it consumers clam up when it comes to Clamato?

    By Matthew Kauffman

    May 18, 2004

    If it weren't for the tens of millions of gallons that
    people voluntarily consume every year, you'd swear the
    stuff was a "Saturday Night Live"


    joke:

    Quoted message said:

    a bottled drink that combines tomatoes and spices "and a
    great clam


    taste."

    Quoted message said:


    Clams. Now that's refreshment!

    Welcome to the improbable world of Clamato, which stands
    alone in the supremely narrow "seafood blends" beverage
    category.

    Clamato has been around 35 years and it has shelf space in
    virtually every supermarket in America. Despite its
    ubiquity, Clamato has not caught on


    with

    Quoted message said:

    the nation's vast Anglo market, although it has long been
    a popular choice among U.S. Hispanics.

    And therein lies a thorny challenge for Clamato's maker,
    Stamford, Conn.-based Mott's Inc.

    Clamato plays a distant second to V8 in the "red juice"
    category, but it's eager to gain market share. To get
    there, should Mott's try to knock down what it dryly calls
    "the clam barrier" and go after the 98 percent of


    Anglo

    Quoted message said:

    consumers who snub the product?

    Or should the company devote its marketing resources to
    expanding its hold on the core Hispanic market, which,
    although smaller, has shown its


    affinity

    Quoted message said:

    for Clamato?

    Seven years ago, marketers at Mott's made their choice.
    And they chose wrong.

    Clamato's brand managers never had a clear sense of why
    there is such a strong ethnic split on Clamato, and they
    tend to play down one widely rumored explanation:
    Clamato's underground reputation as an aphrodisiac in some
    Hispanic communities.

    "That could play a role," said Georg Rasinski, Clamato's
    senior brand manager. "But I think it's the taste profile
    in general, and then being based on tomatoes. I mean, for
    Mexicans, tomatoes are just part of their diet.

    "I think it's the seafood/tomato combination," he
    continues. "Have you had ceviche? The seafood cocktail?
    That's a little bit where this product


    plays

    Quoted message said:

    in. You see it all along the beaches. People drink it a
    lot in Acapulco. It's just part of the palate of the
    Latino, I think."

    But if that completely explained Clamato's appeal, then
    the product ought


    to

    Quoted message said:

    do equally well with Italians, who know a thing or two
    about combining tomatoes and seafood.

    Whatever the reason for the Anglo clam barrier, Mott's
    figured in 1997


    that

    Quoted message said:

    if skeptical U.S. consumers would just try Clamato, they'd
    be hooked. So


    the

    Quoted message said:

    company adopted a light-hearted campaign, with the ill-
    conceived tagline: "Great Taste. 99.9 percent Clam-Free."

    But consumers, of course, weren't turned off by Clamato
    because it had too much clamminess. The psychological
    barrier was that it contained clam


    juice

    Quoted message said:

    at all. Telling Anglo consumers that Clamato didn't have
    all that much of the ingredient that grossed them out was
    no way to move the merchandise.

    And by trying to minimize the clam content, Mott's focus
    on fish might


    have

    Quoted message said:

    only bolstered the barrier.

    "When you look at it now," Rasinski says candidly of the
    $14 million campaign, "you wonder why we did that."

    Saying adios to market

    But the company learned from its missteps, and in 2000,
    Mott's said


    "adios"

    Quoted message said:

    to the general market, dumped its big ad agency in favor
    of a small Latino shop and developed Spanish-language ads
    for television, radio and


    billboards

    Quoted message said:

    in key Hispanic markets around the country.

    It worked, boosting sales by hundreds of thousands of
    cases and winning accolades for its architect, marketing
    director Omar Garcia, who developed advertising campaigns
    positioning Clamato as a fun social-occasion drink.

    He also built a small cadre of field marketing managers
    who still work directly with small grocers in Hispanic
    markets, arranging in-store promotions as well as
    samplings at mass events in the community.

    Mott's also has extended the line in the last two years,
    developing


    Clamato

    Quoted message said:

    Campestre, with roasted garlic, cilantro and
    Worcestershire sauce; and


    more

    Quoted message said:

    recently, Clamato Energia, which competes in the popular
    energy drink category led by Red Bull.

    Rasinski has followed Garcia's lead, and last week he
    launched a new Spanish-language ad campaign with the
    tagline "Anima tu Dia" ("Liven up


    your

    Quoted message said:

    day"😉 to position Clamato as an "any time" drink.

    Today, although Clamato has just 6 percent of the "red
    juice" category, it has a 27 percent share among Hispanic
    consumers in the United States, and that number has grown
    nearly 20 percent in the last four years.

    Breaking through the barrier

    But Mott's is still haunted by the clam barrier, and there
    ought to be


    some

    Quoted message said:

    way to break through it. While Clamato is strong in Mexico
    and parts of Central America, it is also a huge seller in
    Canada, thanks to a twist of fate decades ago. Shortly
    before Clamato was developed, bartender Walter Chell was
    asked to invent a drink to celebrate the opening of a


    restaurant.

    Quoted message said:

    He came up with a concoction that combined Vodka, tomato
    juice, Worcestershire sauce and mashed clams, with a
    celery stick garnish.

    It's called the Bloody Caesar. And while it has been
    described derisively (on this side of the border) as the
    illegitimate offspring of a Bloody


    Mary

    Quoted message said:

    and Manhattan Clam Chowder, it is essentially the National
    Cocktail of Canada, with 250 million mixed every year, in
    a population barely


    one-tenth

    Quoted message said:

    that of the United States. Clam barrier? What clam
    barrier?

    Mott's tried to export the Bloody Caesar to the United
    States a few years ago, but the effort fizzled. Still,
    Garcia hasn't given up on the non-Hispanic U.S. market,
    and he's mindful that in food, as in dance and music, U.S.
    Anglos have been warming to Latin culture in recent years.
    Clamato, he said, one day might try to ride that wave to
    finally break through.

    "I have this idea in the back of my mind: OK, Latin is
    cool. When are we going to take advantage of that?" he
    said. "At this point in time, we


    still

    Quoted message said:

    feel like there's sufficient growth in the Latino market.
    But that could


    be

    Quoted message said:

    one of the angles to go after the general market."

    Is it just me - I have a hell of time getting Clamato juice
    opened - ? It's sealed so damn tight.

    Elaine

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    chicagotribune.comchi
    0405180043may18,1,4385160.story?coll=chi-leisuretempo-hed

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    BIVALVE BEVERAGES IN THE NEWS

    Why is it consumers clam up when it comes to Clamato?

    <snippage>

    Damn, I love Clamato!

    Yep. I have a 10oz virgin bloody ceaser at least every-other
    night. Worcestershire, habanero Tabasco, and Old Bay.

    Quoted message said:

    It's right there in the juice ghetto, along with prune and
    carrot juices but I grab a bottle every shopping trip.

    There's quite a few take-off brands now. HEB has one that
    not quite as tangy, but its more refreshing (no added
    thickeners). A mexican company called Sonrita has one too,
    sold in 12oz cans for $.25 (sometimes on sale 5/$1). Can't
    beat that price - it's usually what I buy lately since it's
    about 1/3rd the price of Genuine Clamato.

    Haven't seen the "Energia" yet, and I'm not fond of their
    Campadre, but the Spicy version is pretty good (it gets
    hotter the longer it sits on the shelves - I always pick the
    oldest one on the shelf - date code on neck of bottle).

    There's also Beefmato (also from Motts), though only one
    place in town carries that one.

    Friend of mine mixes them with beer (she's Mexican, of
    course). If I offer it to white people, they go - "ewww" -
    they've never even tried it. Just the name turns them off.
    Idiots, all of them.

    -sw

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    chicagotribune.comchi
    0405180043may18,1, 4385160.story?coll=chi-leisuretempo-hed

    Quoted message said:

    BIVALVE BEVERAGES IN THE NEWS

    Why is it consumers clam up when it comes to Clamato?

    <snippage>

    Damn, I love Clamato! It's right there in the juice
    ghetto, along with prune and carrot juices, but I grab a
    bottle every shopping trip. Admittedly, it's not as
    fresh as V-8, but it's different enough to warrant me
    buying both.

    Jack Mottsovalvolene

    So...You've been converted to a Ceasar Lover too? They Beat
    Bloody Marys, hands down. Another Great Canadian
    Invention....

    --
    Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on
    nothing but food and water.
    --------
    FIELDS, W. C.

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    chicagotribune.comchi
    0405180043may18,1, 4385160.story?coll=chi-leisuretempo-hed

    Quoted message said:

    BIVALVE BEVERAGES IN THE NEWS

    Why is it consumers clam up when it comes to Clamato?

    <snippage>

    Damn, I love Clamato! It's right there in the juice
    ghetto, along with prune and carrot juices, but I grab a
    bottle every shopping trip. Admittedly, it's not as
    fresh as V-8, but it's different enough to warrant me
    buying both.

    Jack Mottsovalvolene

    I love Clamato also. I almost always have a bottle of it in
    the fridge right next to the V8. I have not tried the
    Beefomato. Have you tried it?

    Michael
    --
    Deathbed statement...

    "Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
    December 12, 1968

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    0405180043may18,1, 43851 60.story?coll=chi-leisuretempo-
    hed

    Quoted message said:

    BIVALVE BEVERAGES IN THE NEWS

    Why is it consumers clam up when it comes to Clamato?

    By Matthew Kauffman

    May 18, 2004

    If it weren't for the tens of millions of gallons that
    people voluntarily consume every year, you'd swear the
    stuff was a "Saturday Night Live"


    joke:

    Quoted message said:

    a bottled drink that combines tomatoes and spices "and a
    great clam


    taste."

    Quoted message said:


    Clams. Now that's refreshment!

    Welcome to the improbable world of Clamato, which stands
    alone in the supremely narrow "seafood blends" beverage
    category.

    Clamato has been around 35 years and it has shelf space
    in virtually every supermarket in America. Despite its
    ubiquity, Clamato has not caught on


    with

    Quoted message said:

    the nation's vast Anglo market, although it has long been
    a popular choice among U.S. Hispanics.

    And therein lies a thorny challenge for Clamato's maker,
    Stamford, Conn.-based Mott's Inc.

    Clamato plays a distant second to V8 in the "red juice"
    category, but it's eager to gain market share. To get
    there, should Mott's try to knock down what it dryly
    calls "the clam barrier" and go after the 98 percent of


    Anglo

    Quoted message said:

    consumers who snub the product?

    Or should the company devote its marketing resources to
    expanding its hold on the core Hispanic market, which,
    although smaller, has shown its


    affinity

    Quoted message said:

    for Clamato?

    Seven years ago, marketers at Mott's made their choice.
    And they chose wrong.

    Clamato's brand managers never had a clear sense of why
    there is such a strong ethnic split on Clamato, and they
    tend to play down one widely rumored explanation:
    Clamato's underground reputation as an aphrodisiac in
    some Hispanic communities.

    "That could play a role," said Georg Rasinski, Clamato's
    senior brand manager. "But I think it's the taste profile
    in general, and then being based on tomatoes. I mean, for
    Mexicans, tomatoes are just part of their diet.

    "I think it's the seafood/tomato combination," he
    continues. "Have you had ceviche? The seafood cocktail?
    That's a little bit where this product


    plays

    Quoted message said:

    in. You see it all along the beaches. People drink it a
    lot in Acapulco. It's just part of the palate of the
    Latino, I think."

    But if that completely explained Clamato's appeal, then
    the product ought


    to

    Quoted message said:

    do equally well with Italians, who know a thing or two
    about combining tomatoes and seafood.

    Whatever the reason for the Anglo clam barrier, Mott's
    figured in 1997


    that

    Quoted message said:

    if skeptical U.S. consumers would just try Clamato,
    they'd be hooked. So


    the

    Quoted message said:

    company adopted a light-hearted campaign, with the ill-
    conceived tagline: "Great Taste. 99.9 percent Clam-Free."

    But consumers, of course, weren't turned off by Clamato
    because it had too much clamminess. The psychological
    barrier was that it contained clam


    juice

    Quoted message said:

    at all. Telling Anglo consumers that Clamato didn't have
    all that much of the ingredient that grossed them out was
    no way to move the merchandise.

    And by trying to minimize the clam content, Mott's focus
    on fish might


    have

    Quoted message said:

    only bolstered the barrier.

    "When you look at it now," Rasinski says candidly of the
    $14 million campaign, "you wonder why we did that."

    Saying adios to market

    But the company learned from its missteps, and in 2000,
    Mott's said


    "adios"

    Quoted message said:

    to the general market, dumped its big ad agency in favor
    of a small Latino shop and developed Spanish-language ads
    for television, radio and


    billboards

    Quoted message said:

    in key Hispanic markets around the country.

    It worked, boosting sales by hundreds of thousands of
    cases and winning accolades for its architect, marketing
    director Omar Garcia, who developed advertising campaigns
    positioning Clamato as a fun social-occasion drink.

    He also built a small cadre of field marketing managers
    who still work directly with small grocers in Hispanic
    markets, arranging in-store promotions as well as
    samplings at mass events in the community.

    Mott's also has extended the line in the last two years,
    developing


    Clamato

    Quoted message said:

    Campestre, with roasted garlic, cilantro and
    Worcestershire sauce; and


    more

    Quoted message said:

    recently, Clamato Energia, which competes in the popular
    energy drink category led by Red Bull.

    Rasinski has followed Garcia's lead, and last week he
    launched a new Spanish-language ad campaign with the
    tagline "Anima tu Dia" ("Liven up


    your

    Quoted message said:

    day"😉 to position Clamato as an "any time" drink.

    Today, although Clamato has just 6 percent of the "red
    juice" category, it has a 27 percent share among Hispanic
    consumers in the United States, and that number has grown
    nearly 20 percent in the last four years.

    Breaking through the barrier

    But Mott's is still haunted by the clam barrier, and
    there ought to be


    some

    Quoted message said:

    way to break through it. While Clamato is strong in
    Mexico and parts of Central America, it is also a huge
    seller in Canada, thanks to a twist of fate decades ago.
    Shortly before Clamato was developed, bartender Walter
    Chell was asked to invent a drink to celebrate the
    opening of a


    restaurant.

    Quoted message said:

    He came up with a concoction that combined Vodka, tomato
    juice, Worcestershire sauce and mashed clams, with a
    celery stick garnish.

    It's called the Bloody Caesar. And while it has been
    described derisively (on this side of the border) as the
    illegitimate offspring of a Bloody


    Mary

    Quoted message said:

    and Manhattan Clam Chowder, it is essentially the
    National Cocktail of Canada, with 250 million mixed every
    year, in a population barely


    one-tenth

    Quoted message said:

    that of the United States. Clam barrier? What clam
    barrier?

    Mott's tried to export the Bloody Caesar to the United
    States a few years ago, but the effort fizzled. Still,
    Garcia hasn't given up on the non-Hispanic U.S. market,
    and he's mindful that in food, as in dance and music,
    U.S. Anglos have been warming to Latin culture in recent
    years. Clamato, he said, one day might try to ride that
    wave to finally break through.

    "I have this idea in the back of my mind: OK, Latin is
    cool. When are we going to take advantage of that?" he
    said. "At this point in time, we


    still

    Quoted message said:

    feel like there's sufficient growth in the Latino market.
    But that could


    be

    Quoted message said:

    one of the angles to go after the general market."

    Is it just me - I have a hell of time getting Clamato
    juice opened - ? It's sealed so damn tight.

    Elaine

    Ya' need a clam shucker to pry that lid off. Those shells
    are hard to pry off the lid 😉

    Michael

    --
    Deathbed statement...

    "Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
    December 12, 1968

  8. Jack Schidt® said:

    "Gregory Morrow"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    hlink.net...

    Quoted message said:


    chicagotribune.comchi
    0405180043may18,1,4385160.story?coll=chi-leisuretempo-hed

    Quoted message said:


    BIVALVE BEVERAGES IN THE NEWS

    Why is it consumers clam up when it comes to Clamato?

    <snippage>

    Damn, I love Clamato! It's right there in the juice
    ghetto, along with prune and carrot juices, but I grab a
    bottle every shopping trip. Admittedly, it's not as
    fresh as V-8, but it's different enough to warrant me
    buying both.

    Jack Mottsovalvolene


    Works even better with a shot of vodka.
    --
    Alan

    "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the relig-
    ion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home."
    -- James Michener

  9. "Jack Schidt®" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Damn, I love Clamato! It's right there in the juice
    ghetto,


    along with

    Quoted message said:

    prune and carrot juices, but I grab a bottle every
    shopping


    trip.

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    Admittedly, it's not as fresh as V-8, but it's
    different enough


    to warrant

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    me buying both.

    There was a V-8 Clam on the market years ago. I loved it,
    but I may have been the only one who did, since it went
    away. But V-8 mixed with clam juice is a fair substitute.

    --
    barry in indy

  10. On Tue, 18 May 2004 21:58:55 -0000, Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not>

    Quoted message said:

    I have not tried the Beefomato. Have you tried it?

    It's not as good a Clamato, IMO.

    -sw

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    Friend of mine mixes them with beer (she's Mexican, of
    course). If I offer it to white people, they go - "ewww" -
    they've never even tried it. Just the name turns them off.
    Idiots, all of them.

    -sw

    As you are stevie.

    --
    StocksRus®

  12. Steve Wertz said:

    Friend of mine mixes them with beer (she's Mexican, of
    course). If I offer it to white people, they go - "ewww" -
    they've never even tried it. Just the name turns them off.
    Idiots, all of them.

    -sw

    Variation of "Red Beer."

    jim

  13. barry in indy said:

    There was a V-8 Clam on the market years ago. I loved it,
    but I may have been the only one who did, since it went
    away. But V-8 mixed with clam juice is a fair substitute.

    V* is too grainy/pulpy and thick for me. I like the
    smoothness of the Clamato. Clamato is only 34% juice though.

    -sw

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    BIVALVE BEVERAGES IN THE NEWS

    Why is it consumers clam up when it comes to Clamato?

    <snippage>

    Damn, I love Clamato!

    Yep. I have a 10oz virgin bloody ceaser at least every-
    other night. Worcestershire, habanero Tabasco, and
    Old Bay.

    Quoted message said:

    It's right there in the juice ghetto, along with
    prune and carrot juices but I grab a bottle every
    shopping trip.

    There's quite a few take-off brands now. HEB has one that
    not quite as tangy, but its more refreshing (no added
    thickeners). A mexican company called Sonrita has one too,
    sold in 12oz cans for $.25 (sometimes on sale 5/$1). Can't
    beat that price - it's usually what I buy lately since
    it's about 1/3rd the price of Genuine Clamato.

    Haven't seen the "Energia" yet, and I'm not fond of their
    Campadre, but the Spicy version is pretty good (it gets
    hotter the longer it sits on the shelves - I always pick
    the oldest one on the shelf - date code on neck of
    bottle).

    There's also Beefmato (also from Motts), though only one
    place in town carries that one.

    Friend of mine mixes them with beer (she's Mexican, of
    course). If I offer it to white people, they go - "ewww" -
    they've never even tried it. Just the name turns them off.
    Idiots, all of them.

    -sw

    I see none of those other brands around here but maybe if I
    look in a latino grocery I might have better luck.

    As for mixing with beer, I think the Mott's site gives a
    recipe for making a 'red beer' with clamato. Doesn't sound
    bad to me at all.

    Jack Clambier

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    Why is it consumers clam up when it comes to Clamato?

    <snippage>

    Damn, I love Clamato! It's right there in the juice
    ghetto, along with prune and carrot juices, but I grab a
    bottle every shopping trip. Admittedly, it's not as
    fresh as V-8, but it's different enough to warrant me
    buying both.

    Jack Mottsovalvolene

    So...You've been converted to a Ceasar Lover too? They
    Beat Bloody Marys, hands down. Another Great Canadian
    Invention....

    Yeah, you frostbacks are on the cutting edge, as always! ;-P

    Jack Trudeau

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    Why is it consumers clam up when it comes to Clamato?

    <snippage>

    Damn, I love Clamato! It's right there in the juice
    ghetto, along with prune and carrot juices, but I grab a
    bottle every shopping trip. Admittedly, it's not as
    fresh as V-8, but it's different enough to warrant me
    buying both.

    Jack Mottsovalvolene

    I love Clamato also. I almost always have a bottle of it
    in the fridge right next to the V8. I have not tried the
    Beefomato. Have you tried it?

    Michael
    --

    I did a long time ago but haven't seen it anywhere to
    refresh my memory of
    it.

    Jack Lost

  17. JimLane said:
    Steve Wertz said:

    Friend of mine mixes them with beer (she's Mexican, of
    course). If I offer it to white people, they go - "ewww"
    - they've never even tried it. Just the name turns them
    off. Idiots, all of them.

    Variation of "Red Beer."

    I'm not too fond of the Clamato and beer - I'd drink way too
    much Clamato that way. Clamato is a sippin drink; Beer is
    for chugging.

    -sw

  18. Quoted message said:

    I love Clamato also. I almost always have a bottle of it
    in the fridge


    :> right next to the V8. I have not tried the Beefomato.
    :> Have you tried it?
    :>
    :> Michael
    :> --

    : I did a long time ago but haven't seen it anywhere to
    : refresh my memory of
    : it.

    I definitely like Beefamato better than Clamato, but haven't
    seen it anywhere for the past 15 years or so either. It's
    not listed on the Mott's website either.

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    :> I love Clamato also. I almost always have a bottle of
    :> it in the fridge right next to the V8. I have not tried
    :> the Beefomato. Have you tried


    it?

    Quoted message said:

    :>
    :> Michael
    :> --

    : I did a long time ago but haven't seen it anywhere to
    : refresh my memory


    of

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    : it.

    I definitely like Beefamato better than Clamato, but
    haven't seen it anywhere for the past 15 years or so
    either. It's not listed on the Mott's website either.

    I could go for a frosty glass of Porkamato right about now.
    Hell, even a glass of Livermato would hit the spot.

    Jack Jugodecarne

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    :> I love Clamato also. I almost always have a bottle of it
    :> in the fridge right next to the V8. I have not tried the
    :> Beefomato. Have you tried it?
    :>
    :> Michael
    :> --

    : I did a long time ago but haven't seen it anywhere to
    : refresh my memory of it.

    I definitely like Beefamato better than Clamato, but
    haven't seen it anywhere for the past 15 years or so
    either. It's not listed on the Mott's website either.

    Here it sits right next to the Clamato at Dierberg's Market.

    Michael

    --
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    "Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
    December 12, 1968

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