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Dr. Jai Maharaj · 2003-12-16T10:01:15+00:00

In article , Being spiritual and scientific are mutually exclusive. Regards, Andrew No, being spiritual and scientific are not mutually exclusive. Religion is important in numerous facets of life. To illustrate its vital place in the modern world, as one example, here are excerpts from TIME of June 24, 1996, which I posted in 1996: [Excerpts] [...] "A 1995 study at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center found that one of the best predictors of survival among 232 heart-surgery patients was the degree to which the patients said they drew comfort and strength from religious faith. Those who did not had more than three times the death rate of those who did. "A survey of 30 years of research on blood pressure levels showed that churchgoers have lower blood pressure than non-churchgoers -- 5 mm lower, according to [Dr. David] Larson, even when adjusted to account for smoking and other risk factors. [...] [End of Excerpts] - "Faith and Healing," TIME, June 24, 1996. Jai Maharaj http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti

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Dr. Jai Maharaj
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16 December 2003, 10:01 UTC #1

In article <[email hidden]>,
Abusive Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Being spiritual and scientific are mutually exclusive. Regards, Andrew
No, being spiritual and scientific are not mutually exclusive. Religion is important in numerous
facets of life. To illustrate its vital place in the modern world, as one example, here are excerpts
from TIME of June 24, 1996, which I posted in 1996:
[Excerpts] [...] "A 1995 study at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center found that one of the best
predictors of survival among 232 heart-surgery patients was the degree to which the patients said
they drew comfort and strength from religious faith. Those who did not had more than three times the
death rate of those who did.
"A survey of 30 years of research on blood pressure levels showed that churchgoers have lower
blood pressure than non-churchgoers -- 5 mm lower, according to [Dr. David] Larson, even when
adjusted to account for smoking and other risk factors. [...] [End of Excerpts]
- "Faith and Healing," TIME, June 24, 1996.
Jai Maharaj mantra.comjai Om Shanti

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Kurt Ullman
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16 December 2003, 10:01 UTC #2

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Dr. Jai
Maharaj) said:
In article <[email hidden]>, "Abusive Dr. Andrew B. Chung"
Quoted message said:

(snip ,much drivel).
You do know of course that focussing on both Drs. Chung and Harris, you
are in real danger of losing your amateur status as a net-kook and stalker.
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Only in America......do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Latin
meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning "habitual uncontrollable purposeless gestures." --Pennyaline in
sci.med.nursing

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Robert McCarty
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16 December 2003, 10:01 UTC #3

See below
Dr. Jai Maharaj said:
In article <[email hidden]>, "Abusive Dr. Andrew B. Chung"
Quoted message said:

Being spiritual and scientific are mutually exclusive. Regards, Andrew
No, being spiritual and scientific are not mutually exclusive. Religion is important in numerous
facets of life. To illustrate its vital place in the modern world, as one example, here are
excerpts from TIME of June 24, 1996, which I posted in 1996:
[Excerpts] [...] "A 1995 study at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center found that one of the best
predictors of survival among 232 heart-surgery patients was the degree to which the patients said
they drew comfort and strength from religious faith. Those who did not had more than three times
the death rate of those who did.
"A survey of 30 years of research on blood pressure levels showed that churchgoers have lower
blood pressure than non-churchgoers -- 5 mm lower, according to [Dr. David] Larson, even when
adjusted to account for smoking and other risk factors. [...] [End of Excerpts]
- "Faith and Healing," TIME, June 24, 1996.
Jai Maharaj mantra.comjai Om Shanti
Being "SPIRITUAL" and accepting a Religion such as that given by Muhm'd are as far apart as
the ends of the Universes! Being "spiritual" does NOT include a "religion" as a natural follow-
on! B-0b1 !

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Dr. Andrew B. C
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16 December 2003, 10:01 UTC #4

Dr. Jai Maharaj said:
In article <[email hidden]>, "Abusive Dr. Andrew B. Chung"
Quoted message said:

Being spiritual and scientific are mutually exclusive. Regards, Andrew
No, being spiritual and scientific are not mutually exclusive.
The latter resides in the heart (soul) and the former in the brain.
Quoted message said:
Religion is important in numerous facets of life.
The soul (heart) is important.
Quoted message said:
To illustrate its vital place in the modern world, as one example, here are excerpts from TIME of
June 24, 1996, which I posted in 1996:
Quoted message said:

[Excerpts] [...] "A 1995 study at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center found that one of the best
predictors of survival among 232 heart-surgery patients was the degree to which the patients said
they drew comfort and strength from religious faith. Those who did not had more than three times
the death rate of those who did.
Yes, the soul is important.
Quoted message said:

"A survey of 30 years of research on blood pressure levels showed that churchgoers have lower
blood pressure than non-churchgoers -- 5 mm lower, according to [Dr. David] Larson, even when
adjusted to account for smoking and other risk factors. [...] [End of Excerpts]
- "Faith and Healing," TIME, June 24, 1996.
Yes, a healthy soul promotes a healthy body.
Where's the misinformation?
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

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Dr. Jai Maharaj
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16 December 2003, 10:01 UTC #5

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Kurt Ullman) posted:
Quoted message said:
In article <[email hidden]>,
Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:
Quoted message said:
In article <[email hidden]>, "Abusive Dr. Andrew B. Chung"
Quoted message said:

Being spiritual and scientific are mutually exclusive. Regards, Andrew
No, being spiritual and scientific are not mutually exclusive. Religion is important in numerous
facets of life. To illustrate its vital place in the modern world, as one example, here are
excerpts from TIME of June 24, 1996, which I posted in 1996:
[Excerpts] [...] "A 1995 study at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center found that one of the best
predictors of survival among 232 heart-surgery patients was the degree to which the patients said
they drew comfort and strength from religious faith. Those who did not had more than three times
the death rate of those who did.
"A survey of 30 years of research on blood pressure levels showed that churchgoers have lower
blood pressure than non-churchgoers -- 5 mm lower, according to [Dr. David] Larson, even when
adjusted to account for smoking and other risk factors. [...] [End of Excerpts]
- "Faith and Healing," TIME, June 24, 1996.
Jai Maharaj mantra.comjai Om Shanti

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Dr. Jai Maharaj
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16 December 2003, 10:01 UTC #6

In article <[email hidden]>,
Robert McCarty <[email hidden]> posted:
Quoted message said:

See below
Dr. Jai Maharaj said:
In article <[email hidden]>, "Abusive Dr. Andrew B. Chung"
Quoted message said:

Being spiritual and scientific are mutually exclusive. Regards, Andrew
No, being spiritual and scientific are not mutually exclusive. Religion is important in numerous
facets of life. To illustrate its vital place in the modern world, as one example, here are
excerpts from TIME of June 24, 1996, which I posted in 1996:
[Excerpts] [...] "A 1995 study at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center found that one of the best
predictors of survival among 232 heart-surgery patients was the degree to which the patients
said they drew comfort and strength from religious faith. Those who did not had more than three
times the death rate of those who did.
"A survey of 30 years of research on blood pressure levels showed that churchgoers have lower
blood pressure than non-churchgoers -- 5 mm lower, according to [Dr. David] Larson, even when
adjusted to account for smoking and other risk factors. [...] [End of Excerpts]
- "Faith and Healing," TIME, June 24, 1996.
Jai Maharaj mantra.comjai Om Shanti
Being "SPIRITUAL" and accepting a Religion such as that given by Muhm'd are as far apart as
the ends of the Universes! Being "spiritual" does NOT include a "religion" as a natural follow-
on! B-0b1 !
Facts about terrorist Islam and Muslims:
flex.comsatyamevajayate
Jai Maharaj mantra.comjai Om Shanti

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16 December 2003, 10:01 UTC #7

Robert McCarty said:
See below
cancersupporters.comcharter.html see " What is strictly prohibited on this
newsgroup?" J

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16 December 2003, 10:01 UTC #8

Kurt Ullman said:
In article said:
In article <[email hidden]>, "Abusive Dr. Andrew B. Chung"
Quoted message said:

(snip ,much drivel).
cancersupporters.comcharter.html see " What is strictly prohibited on this
newsgroup?" J

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Reginald Perrin
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16 December 2003, 10:01 UTC #9

[email hidden] (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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Date: 2003-06-24 14:58:37 PST
"Dr. Jai Maharaj" Information
This person's game is to use outdated articles to attract people to his website, where he sells
psychic services. What's most amusing is that many of the groups to which his messages are
crossposted do not exist. He plagues many USENET groups. His standard method of responding to an
attack on his credibility is to repost the original article or to post the sender's personal contact
information and threaten to report the sender to his/her ISP for spamming or making threats (the
very definition of irony).
Some info re: Jai Maharaj:
mantra.com Mantra Corporation
P. O. Box 1919 Honolulu HI, 96792-6919 US IP Address 206.126.0.13 [flex.com] Business Entity Name:
MANTRA CORPORATION Record Type: Master Name for a Domestic Profit Corporation File Number: 82087
D1 Status: Active Purpose: BUSINESS CONSULTING, MARKETING,ADVERTISING AND RELATED SERVICES Place
Incorporated: Hawaii UNITED STATES Incorporation Date: 11/30/1990 Mailing Address: P O BOX 1919
WAIANAE Hawaii 96792-6919 United States of America Officer Information STEVENS,JAY R (possibly
"Jai Maharaj"😉 MILLER,JOAN E (possibly "Harmony"😉
11/30/1990 Articles of Incorporation
Flex.com
11.31..0 - 206.126.15.255
P.O.Box 22481 Honolulu, HI 96823-2481 US
IP Address 206.126.0.13
Administrative Contact: Wong, Delgory K. [email hidden] +1-808-539-3790 ISP Flexnet, Inc. Flex
Information Network 808.732.8849 HAWAII Email: [email hidden] Hawaii's First Public Access
Internet Provider IP Address: 199.201.240.1
hindu.org Himalayan Academy *107 Kaholalele Road* Kapaa, HI 11111 US IP Address 64.75.159.118
Quite a few domains not worth mentioning here...
Links:
members.tripod.comindia10.html mantra.comholocaust
mathquest.com387198
jaimaharaj.reallysuckass.comindex.html
His "real" name is supposed to be Jay Stevens.
There is an anti-Jay newsgroup too: news:alt.flame.jay-stevens
But the best place to find Jay is news:alt.fan.jai-maharaj
A member of the "flame Jay Stevens" group is "Jose Mariachi", )another self-proclaimed
"doctor"?)..."Mariachi" web site could be another bogus cash grab remarkably similar to Stevens'
site, mantra.com.
Here's a Jai FAQ [long] geocities.comjay faq.html
and a shorter version: vic.comjai.maharaj.miniFAQ
He made Kook of the Month for June of 1995 here: lart.comwhiners.html

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