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  1. Original post
    Bob
    Archived post
    #1

    Poor Chung flails about trying desperately to create new
    insults and new disparagement and never sees that it
    reflects a brighter light than it casts. Today, he posts
    these pieces in separate notes. Not in reply to anything,
    just as gratuitous attacks, as comment merely to insult with
    no direct antecedents - insult for its own sake.

    So who's obsessed? Who's compulsive? No reason to mention
    it but he does, in many of the same words, to the same
    silly ends.

    Chung said:

    Knowledge and IQ are not synonymous. Simply have a gander
    at Bob Pastorio muttering obsessively in the corner over
    there. Then there is Gollum skulking in Finland.

    And Chung said:

    What is your view on why people are so fearful about
    being the slightest bit hungry (so much so that it can
    become an irrational obsession as evident in Bob Pastorio
    who continues to mutter obsessively in the dark corner
    over there)?

    NOTE: I've never said anything about hunger that would lead
    to anything like these unbalanced rants. My attitude
    is that if people want to be hungry, it's up to them.
    If they don't, that's up to them, too. Chung sure
    likes all the forms of the word "obsession."
    Projection...?

    And Chung said:

    There are folks who are truly fearful. You have only to
    read the negative testimonials on the 2PD approach
    webpage (heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp) to find
    multiple examples of this irrational fear. Some of
    these folks are seemingly so struck with this fear (Bob
    Pastorio for example) than they would risk their own
    livelihood by posting libelous and defamatory remarks
    (heartmdphd.comlibel.asp) to oppose
    anything they perceive as a threat to their state of
    never being hungry.

    In Chung's wacko fright-wig world, refutation is a
    manifestation of fear. The "negative testimonials" are a
    sign of fear. I love that expression - "negative
    testimonials" - and it says so much about Chung and his dervish-
    like spinning. Negative testimonials are sorta like
    "positive destruction" or "subtractive support." I love the
    way this guy abuses the language. <LOL>

    Alternative thoughts are a manifestation of fear.
    Substantive scientific contradiction is a manifestation of
    fear. Detailing his quackery is a manifestation of fear.
    Defining his charlatanry is a manifestation of fear. Listing
    his blunders with nutritional facts is a manifestation of
    fear. Demolishing his assertions about caloric usage is a
    manifestation of fear. Doing anything that Chung dislikes is
    a manifestation of fear. Chung's two big words are "truth"
    and "fear." His truthfulness is no longer subject to
    discussion since his fake credentials have been removed from
    the AMA site. They were simply untruthful. Period. No one
    else here talks so much about fear, probably because no one
    else here is so fearful. Otherwise, why would he hold such a
    panicky, desperate need to repeat his mantra that he has
    life eternal? Why else would he try to frantically to
    reassure himself?

    Can we say "projection...?

    Bob

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  2. Smoke
    Archived post
    #2

    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Poor Chung flails about trying desperately to create new
    insults and new disparagement and never sees that it
    reflects a brighter light than it casts. Today, he posts
    these pieces in separate notes. Not in reply to anything,
    just as gratuitous attacks, as comment merely to insult
    with no direct antecedents - insult for its own sake.

    So who's obsessed? Who's compulsive? No reason to mention
    it but he does, in many of the same words, to the same
    silly ends.

    Chung said:

    Knowledge and IQ are not synonymous. Simply have a
    gander at Bob Pastorio muttering obsessively in the
    corner over there. Then there is Gollum skulking in
    Finland.

    And Chung said:

    What is your view on why people are so fearful about
    being the slightest bit hungry (so much so that it can
    become an irrational obsession as evident in Bob
    Pastorio who continues to mutter obsessively in the
    dark corner over there)?

    NOTE: I've never said anything about hunger that would
    lead to anything like these unbalanced rants. My
    attitude is that if people want to be hungry, it's
    up to them. If they don't, that's up to them, too.
    Chung sure likes all the forms of the word
    "obsession." Projection...?

    And Chung said:

    There are folks who are truly fearful. You have only to
    read the negative testimonials on the 2PD approach
    webpage (heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp) to find
    multiple examples of this irrational fear. Some of
    these folks are seemingly so struck with this fear (Bob
    Pastorio for example) than they would risk their own
    livelihood by posting libelous and defamatory remarks
    (heartmdphd.comlibel.asp) to oppose
    anything they perceive as a threat to their state of
    never being hungry.

    In Chung's wacko fright-wig world, refutation is a
    manifestation of fear. The "negative testimonials" are a
    sign of fear. I love that expression - "negative
    testimonials" - and it says so much about Chung and his
    dervish-like spinning. Negative testimonials are sorta
    like "positive destruction" or "subtractive support." I
    love the way this guy abuses the language. <LOL>

    Alternative thoughts are a manifestation of fear.
    Substantive scientific contradiction is a manifestation of
    fear. Detailing his quackery is a manifestation of fear.
    Defining his charlatanry is a manifestation of fear.
    Listing his blunders with nutritional facts is a
    manifestation of fear. Demolishing his assertions about
    caloric usage is a manifestation of fear. Doing anything
    that Chung dislikes is a manifestation of fear. Chung's
    two big words are "truth" and "fear." His truthfulness is
    no longer subject to discussion since his fake credentials
    have been removed from the AMA site. They were simply
    untruthful. Period. No one else here talks so much about
    fear, probably because no one else here is so fearful.
    Otherwise, why would he hold such a panicky, desperate
    need to repeat his mantra that he has life eternal? Why
    else would he try to frantically to reassure himself?

    Can we say "projection...?

    Bob

    No doubt he is an Obsessive-Compulsive and in need of help.
    Religion doesn't come natural to "born again's", they have
    to work at it, some being totally consuming by it to the
    point that they lose all family and friends that are not as
    consumed as themself. I have seen this happen to a person I
    once knew, considered a good bloke, a good worker and
    provider for his family..enter religion. He ate but one meal
    a day (and forced his family to do the same) and sold
    everthing piece of furniture in his house, all of his
    child's toys, everthing...why? To cut a long story short, he
    ended up with no family or friends, even his church friends
    abandoned him, last I saw of him he was living in an
    unfurnished room with only a blanket, his bible and food
    vouchers, he was unwashed, unshaved and unemployable. I
    worked with this person, he had a wife and daughter, he
    owned a house, now nothing thanks to a Obsessive-Compulsive
    disorder he refused to acknowlege he had.

    I am not sugesting that Dr Chung is going to end up this
    way, far from it, but he does have the symptoms.

    Smoke

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  3. listener
    Archived post
    #3
    Smoke said:


    I am not sugesting that Dr Chung is going to end up this
    way, far from it, but he does have the symptoms.

    Smoke

    Quoted message said:

    Dr. Chung has OCD - Obsessive Christian Disorder and Bob has
    OCD - Obsessive Chung Disorder.

    E.

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  4. Dr. Andrew B. C
    Archived post
    #4
    Smoke said:


    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Poor Chung flails about trying desperately to create new
    insults and new disparagement and never sees that it
    reflects a brighter light than it casts. Today, he posts
    these pieces in separate notes. Not in reply to
    anything, just as gratuitous attacks, as comment merely
    to insult with no direct antecedents - insult for its
    own sake.

    So who's obsessed? Who's compulsive? No reason to
    mention it but he does, in many of the same words, to
    the same silly ends.

    Chung said:

    Knowledge and IQ are not synonymous. Simply have a
    gander at Bob Pastorio muttering obsessively in the
    corner over there. Then there is Gollum skulking in
    Finland.

    And Chung said:

    What is your view on why people are so fearful about
    being the slightest bit hungry (so much so that it
    can become an irrational obsession as evident in Bob
    Pastorio who continues to mutter obsessively in the
    dark corner over there)?

    NOTE: I've never said anything about hunger that would
    lead to anything like these unbalanced rants. My
    attitude is that if people want to be hungry, it's
    up to them. If they don't, that's up to them, too.
    Chung sure likes all the forms of the word
    "obsession." Projection...?

    And Chung said:

    There are folks who are truly fearful. You have only
    to read the negative testimonials on the 2PD approach
    webpage (heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp) to
    find multiple examples of this irrational fear. Some
    of these folks are seemingly so struck with this fear
    (Bob Pastorio for example) than they would risk their
    own livelihood by posting libelous and defamatory
    remarks (heartmdphd.comlibel.asp) to
    oppose anything they perceive as a threat to their
    state of never being hungry.

    In Chung's wacko fright-wig world, refutation is a
    manifestation of fear. The "negative testimonials" are a
    sign of fear. I love that expression - "negative
    testimonials" - and it says so much about Chung and his
    dervish-like spinning. Negative testimonials are sorta
    like "positive destruction" or "subtractive support." I
    love the way this guy abuses the language. <LOL>

    Alternative thoughts are a manifestation of fear.
    Substantive scientific contradiction is a manifestation
    of fear. Detailing his quackery is a manifestation of
    fear. Defining his charlatanry is a manifestation of
    fear. Listing his blunders with nutritional facts is a
    manifestation of fear. Demolishing his assertions about
    caloric usage is a manifestation of fear. Doing anything
    that Chung dislikes is a manifestation of fear. Chung's
    two big words are "truth" and "fear." His truthfulness
    is no longer subject to discussion since his fake
    credentials have been removed from the AMA site. They
    were simply untruthful. Period. No one else here talks
    so much about fear, probably because no one else here is
    so fearful. Otherwise, why would he hold such a panicky,
    desperate need to repeat his mantra that he has life
    eternal? Why else would he try to frantically to
    reassure himself?

    Can we say "projection...?

    Bob

    No doubt he is an Obsessive-Compulsive and in need of
    help. Religion doesn't come natural to "born again's",
    they have to work at it, some being totally consuming by
    it to the point that they lose all family and friends that
    are not as consumed as themself. I have seen this happen
    to a person I once knew, considered a good bloke, a good
    worker and provider for his family..enter religion. He ate
    but one meal a day (and forced his family to do the same)
    and sold everthing piece of furniture in his house, all of
    his child's toys, everthing...why? To cut a long story
    short, he ended up with no family or friends, even his
    church friends abandoned him, last I saw of him he was
    living in an unfurnished room with only a blanket, his
    bible and food vouchers, he was unwashed, unshaved and
    unemployable. I worked with this person, he had a wife and
    daughter, he owned a house, now nothing thanks to a Obsessive-
    Compulsive disorder he refused to acknowlege he had.

    I am not sugesting that Dr Chung is going to end up this
    way, far from it, but he does have the symptoms.

    Smoke

    Quoted message said:

    You are aptly named. One has to wonder what you are smoking.

    Nonetheless, you remain in my prayers, neighbor.

    May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior,
    someday, so that you too might have eternal life and the
    boundless riches of His everlasting kingdon.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
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    What is all this about?
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  5. Mosaic M_uns
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    #5
    Smoke said:

    Religion doesn't come natural to "born again's", they have
    to work at it,

    Incorrect but what the hell would you know about it anyway,
    Christ Hater?

    Quoted message said:

    some being totally consuming by it to the point that they
    lose all family and friends that are not as consumed as
    themself.

    I'd lose them all before I would lose Christ.
    antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960222.html Lift well,
    Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

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  6. Dr. Andrew B. C
    Archived post
    #6
    Quoted message said:


    Smoke said:


    I am not sugesting that Dr Chung is going to end up this
    way, far from it, but he does have the symptoms.

    Smoke

    Quoted message said:

    Dr. Chung has OCD - Obsessive Christian Disorder and Bob
    has OCD - Obsessive Chung Disorder.

    L.

    Thanks for the blessing :-)

    Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

    11"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and
    falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
    12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in
    heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who
    were before you.

    May God add His blessings to the writing of His Word here in
    SMC, in Christ's name.

    Amen.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
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    What is all this about?
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    Is this spam?
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  7. Smoke
    Archived post
    #7

    "Mosaic M_uns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Smoke said:

    Religion doesn't come natural to "born again's", they
    have to work at it,

    Incorrect but what the hell would you know about it
    anyway, Christ Hater?

    I know plenty, I am correct and I am not a Christ Hater.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    some being totally consuming by it to the point that they
    lose all family and friends that are not as consumed as
    themself.

    antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960222.html Lift well,
    Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

    Quoted message said:

    I'd lose them all before I would lose Christ.

    Then why bother having a family and how do they feel about
    playing second fiddle to a mythical entity. How do they like
    living in an environment where they may be discarded, dumped
    at a whim or fancy. Are you a "born again"? Are you living
    life according to the bible, let me answer for you - NO. Is
    there room in your religious blinkered life for good people
    that are non Christians.

    You present yourself as a Christian with Christian value's
    but you come across a foul mouthed barbarian, there is no
    love in your heart just a compulsiveness to feed your
    enormous ego. I suggest you are not a Christian - you post's
    betray you. Smoke

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  8. Smoke
    Archived post
    #8

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Smoke said:


    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Poor Chung flails about trying desperately to create
    new insults and new disparagement and never sees that
    it reflects a brighter light than it casts. Today, he
    posts these pieces in separate notes. Not in reply to
    anything, just as gratuitous attacks, as comment
    merely to insult with no direct antecedents - insult
    for its own sake.

    So who's obsessed? Who's compulsive? No reason to
    mention it but he does, in many of the same words, to
    the same silly ends.

    Chung wrote:
    > Knowledge and IQ are not synonymous. Simply have a
    > gander at Bob Pastorio muttering obsessively in the
    > corner over there. Then there is Gollum skulking in
    > Finland.

    And Chung wrote:
    > What is your view on why people are so fearful
    > about being the slightest bit hungry (so much so
    > that it can become an irrational obsession as
    > evident in Bob Pastorio who continues to mutter
    > obsessively in the dark corner over there)?

    NOTE: I've never said anything about hunger that would
    lead to anything like these unbalanced rants. My
    attitude is that if people want to be hungry,
    it's up to them. If they don't, that's up to
    them, too. Chung sure likes all the forms of the
    word "obsession." Projection...?

    And Chung wrote:
    > There are folks who are truly fearful. You have
    > only to read the negative testimonials on the 2PD
    > approach webpage
    > (heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp) to find
    > multiple examples of this irrational fear. Some of
    > these folks are seemingly so struck with this fear
    > (Bob Pastorio for example) than they would risk
    > their own livelihood by posting libelous and
    > defamatory remarks
    > (heartmdphd.comlibel.asp) to oppose
    > anything they perceive as a threat to their state
    > of never being hungry.

    In Chung's wacko fright-wig world, refutation is a
    manifestation of fear. The "negative testimonials" are
    a sign of fear. I love that expression - "negative
    testimonials" - and it says so much about Chung and
    his dervish-like spinning. Negative testimonials are
    sorta like "positive destruction" or "subtractive
    support." I love the way this guy abuses the language.
    <LOL>

    Alternative thoughts are a manifestation of fear.
    Substantive scientific contradiction is a
    manifestation of fear. Detailing his quackery is a
    manifestation of fear. Defining his charlatanry is a
    manifestation of fear. Listing his blunders with
    nutritional facts is a manifestation of fear.
    Demolishing his assertions about caloric usage is a
    manifestation of fear. Doing anything that Chung
    dislikes is a manifestation of fear. Chung's two big
    words are "truth" and "fear." His truthfulness is no
    longer subject to discussion since his fake
    credentials have been removed from the AMA site. They
    were simply untruthful. Period. No one else here talks
    so much about fear, probably because no one else here
    is so fearful. Otherwise, why would he hold such a
    panicky, desperate need to repeat his mantra that he
    has life eternal? Why else would he try to frantically
    to reassure himself?

    Can we say "projection...?

    Bob

    No doubt he is an Obsessive-Compulsive and in need of
    help. Religion doesn't come natural to "born again's",
    they have to work at


    it,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some being totally consuming by it to the point that
    they lose all


    family

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and friends that are not as consumed as themself. I
    have seen this happen to a person I once knew,
    considered a good


    bloke, a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    good worker and provider for his family..enter religion.
    He ate but one meal a day (and forced his family to do
    the same) and


    sold

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    everthing piece of furniture in his house, all of his
    child's toys, everthing...why? To cut a long story
    short, he ended up with no family or friends, even


    his

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    church friends abandoned him, last I saw of him he was
    living in an unfurnished room with only a blanket, his
    bible and food vouchers, he


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    unwashed, unshaved and unemployable. I worked with this
    person, he had a wife and daughter, he owned a house,


    now

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nothing thanks to a Obsessive-Compulsive disorder he
    refused to


    acknowlege

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he had.

    I am not sugesting that Dr Chung is going to end up this
    way, far from


    it,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but he does have the symptoms.

    Smoke

    Quoted message said:

    You are aptly named. One has to wonder what you are
    smoking.

    Don't smoke.

    Quoted message said:


    Nonetheless, you remain in my prayers, neighbor.

    Not working, pray harder.

    Quoted message said:


    May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior,
    someday, so that you too might have eternal life and the
    boundless riches of His everlasting kingdon.

    Not likely.

    Quoted message said:

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    ** Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam? makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

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  9. Smoke
    Archived post
    #9

    snip

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some being totally consuming by it to the point that they
    lose all family and friends that are not as consumed as
    themself.

    I'd lose them all before I would lose Christ.

    In Judges 11:29-39 After the Holy Spirit came over
    Jephhthah, your God made a deal with Jephthah! Jephthah
    asked that if he was able to have victory in the battle with
    the Ammonites he would make an burned offering of the first
    person that came out of his house when he returned home in
    victory. Your Bible then says in verse 11:32, "And the Lord
    Gave him victory."

    And when he returned home from battle, Jephthah's little
    daughter came running out of the house to hug her daddy's
    neck not knowing that it was her that would now be killed
    and her little body burned and offered up to God as the
    sacrifice that was promised and agreed to. It did in fact
    happen, according to your own Bible, and your God did in
    fact accept this sacrifice of a little girl. Your God could
    have sent the hand of an angel to stop Jephthah as he did
    with Isaac....but that did not happen to this poor little
    girl. God accepted his payment for victory over the
    Ammorites! Read the story for yourselves......(G36.REL)

    How far would you go MU?

    Smoke

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  10. Mosaic M_uns
    Archived post
    #10

    On Fri, 21 May 2004 09:22:45 +1000, "Smoke" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some being totally consuming by it to the point that
    they lose all family and friends that are not as
    consumed as themself.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'd lose them all before I would lose Christ.

    Then why bother having a family and how do they feel about
    playing second fiddle to a mythical entity.

    Mythical only to you.
    antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960222.html Lift well,
    Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

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  11. Mosaic M_uns
    Archived post
    #11
    Smoke said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'd lose them all before I would lose Christ.

    In Judges 11:29-39 After the Holy Spirit came over
    Jephhthah, your God made a deal with Jephthah! Jephthah
    asked that if he was able to have victory in the battle
    with the Ammonites he would make an burned offering of the
    first person that came out of his house when he returned
    home in victory. Your Bible then says in verse 11:32, "And
    the Lord Gave him victory."

    And when he returned home from battle, Jephthah's little
    daughter came running out of the house to hug her daddy's
    neck not knowing that it was her that would now be killed
    and her little body burned and offered up to God as the
    sacrifice that was promised and agreed to. It did in fact
    happen, according to your own Bible, and your God did in
    fact accept this sacrifice of a little girl. Your God could
    have sent the hand of an angel to stop Jephthah as he did
    with Isaac....but that did not happen to this poor little
    girl. God accepted his payment for victory over the
    Ammorites! Read the story for yourselves......(G36.REL)

    Quoted message said:

    How far would you go MU?

    As far as Christ leads me to.
    antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960222.html Lift well,
    Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

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  12. Dr. Andrew B. C
    Archived post
    #12
    Smoke said:


    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Smoke said:


    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > Poor Chung flails about trying desperately to create
    > new insults and new disparagement and never sees
    > that it reflects a brighter light than it casts.
    > Today, he posts these pieces in separate notes. Not
    > in reply to anything, just as gratuitous attacks, as
    > comment merely to insult with no direct antecedents
    > - insult for its own sake.
    >
    > So who's obsessed? Who's compulsive? No reason to
    > mention it but he does, in many of the same words,
    > to the same silly ends.
    >
    > Chung wrote:
    > > Knowledge and IQ are not synonymous. Simply have
    > > a gander at Bob Pastorio muttering obsessively in
    > > the corner over there. Then there is Gollum
    > > skulking in Finland.
    >
    >
    > And Chung wrote:
    > > What is your view on why people are so fearful
    > > about being the slightest bit hungry (so much so
    > > that it can become an irrational obsession as
    > > evident in Bob Pastorio who continues to mutter
    > > obsessively in the dark corner over there)?
    >
    > NOTE: I've never said anything about hunger that
    > would lead to anything like these unbalanced
    > rants. My attitude is that if people want to
    > be hungry, it's up to them. If they don't,
    > that's up to them, too. Chung sure likes all
    > the forms of the word "obsession."
    > Projection...?
    >
    > And Chung wrote:
    > > There are folks who are truly fearful. You have
    > > only to read the negative testimonials on the 2PD
    > > approach webpage
    > > (heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp) to find
    > > multiple examples of this irrational fear. Some
    > > of these folks are seemingly so struck with this
    > > fear (Bob Pastorio for example) than they would
    > > risk their own livelihood by posting libelous and
    > > defamatory remarks
    > > (heartmdphd.comlibel.asp) to oppose
    > > anything they perceive as a threat to their state
    > > of never being hungry.
    >
    > In Chung's wacko fright-wig world, refutation is a
    > manifestation of fear. The "negative testimonials"
    > are a sign of fear. I love that expression -
    > "negative testimonials" - and it says so much about
    > Chung and his dervish-like spinning. Negative
    > testimonials are sorta like "positive destruction"
    > or "subtractive support." I love the way this guy
    > abuses the language. <LOL>
    >
    > Alternative thoughts are a manifestation of fear.
    > Substantive scientific contradiction is a
    > manifestation of fear. Detailing his quackery is a
    > manifestation of fear. Defining his charlatanry is a
    > manifestation of fear. Listing his blunders with
    > nutritional facts is a manifestation of fear.
    > Demolishing his assertions about caloric usage is a
    > manifestation of fear. Doing anything that Chung
    > dislikes is a manifestation of fear. Chung's two big
    > words are "truth" and "fear." His truthfulness is no
    > longer subject to discussion since his fake
    > credentials have been removed from the AMA site.
    > They were simply untruthful. Period. No one else
    > here talks so much about fear, probably because no
    > one else here is so fearful. Otherwise, why would he
    > hold such a panicky, desperate need to repeat his
    > mantra that he has life eternal? Why else would he
    > try to frantically to reassure himself?
    >
    > Can we say "projection...?
    >
    > Bob

    No doubt he is an Obsessive-Compulsive and in need of
    help. Religion doesn't come natural to "born again's",
    they have to work at


    it,

    Quoted message said:
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    some being totally consuming by it to the point that
    they lose all


    family

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and friends that are not as consumed as themself. I
    have seen this happen to a person I once knew,
    considered a good


    bloke, a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    good worker and provider for his family..enter
    religion. He ate but one meal a day (and forced his
    family to do the same) and


    sold

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    everthing piece of furniture in his house, all of his
    child's toys, everthing...why? To cut a long story
    short, he ended up with no family or friends, even


    his

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    church friends abandoned him, last I saw of him he was
    living in an unfurnished room with only a blanket, his
    bible and food vouchers, he


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    unwashed, unshaved and unemployable. I worked with
    this person, he had a wife and daughter, he owned a
    house,


    now

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nothing thanks to a Obsessive-Compulsive disorder he
    refused to


    acknowlege

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he had.

    I am not sugesting that Dr Chung is going to end up
    this way, far from


    it,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but he does have the symptoms.

    Smoke
    >

    You are aptly named. One has to wonder what you are
    smoking.

    Don't smoke.

    Then why the moniker?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Nonetheless, you remain in my prayers, neighbor.

    Not working, pray harder.

    Rest assured that my prayers are always answered. It is only
    a matter of God's timing. I suspect you know this to be true
    from what you have witnessed here in SMC.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior,
    someday, so that you too might have eternal life and the
    boundless riches of His everlasting kingdon.

    Not likely.

    It would be your loss not mine.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

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    Board-Certified Cardiologist
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  13. Dr. Andrew B. C
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    Mosaic M_uns said:


    Smoke said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'd lose them all before I would lose Christ.

    In Judges 11:29-39 After the Holy Spirit came over
    Jephhthah, your God made a deal with Jephthah! Jephthah
    asked that if he was able to have victory in the battle
    with the Ammonites he would make an burned offering of
    the first person that came out of his house when he
    returned home in victory. Your Bible then says in verse
    11:32, "And the Lord Gave him victory."

    And when he returned home from battle, Jephthah's little
    daughter came running out of the house to hug her daddy's
    neck not knowing that it was her that would now be killed
    and her little body burned and offered up to God as the
    sacrifice that was promised and agreed to. It did in fact
    happen, according to your own Bible, and your God did in
    fact accept this sacrifice of a little girl. Your God
    could have sent the hand of an angel to stop Jephthah as
    he did with Isaac....but that did not happen to this poor
    little girl. God accepted his payment for victory over
    the Ammorites! Read the story for
    yourselves......(G36.REL)

    Quoted message said:

    How far would you go MU?

    As far as Christ leads me to.

    Nice answer, brother :-)

    May God continue to bless you and yours today and everyday
    in Christ's name.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

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  14. Mosaic M_uns
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    MD/PhD said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And when he returned home from battle, Jephthah's little
    daughter came running out of the house to hug her
    daddy's neck not knowing that it was her that would now
    be killed and her little body burned and offered up to
    God as the sacrifice that was promised and agreed to. It
    did in fact happen, according to your own Bible, and
    your God did in fact accept this sacrifice of a little
    girl. Your God could have sent the hand of an angel to
    stop Jephthah as he did with Isaac....but that did not
    happen to this poor little girl. God accepted his
    payment for victory over the Ammorites! Read the story
    for yourselves......(G36.REL)

    Quoted message said:

    How far would you go MU?

    As far as Christ leads me to.

    Nice answer, brother :-)

    May God continue to bless you and yours today and everyday
    in Christ's name.

    Say a prayer for my rear end.

    I am always amazed at those who spend so much of their time
    wasted in attempting to downplay, ridicule or destroy
    Christians and Christianity...without ever having spent any
    real time examining it. Take the poster above. Christ's life
    has many instances where He chose Man over family; I would
    say He made the ultimate choice when he went to Jerusalem on
    that fateful weekend of His crucifixion. He knew, they knew,
    what lay ahead.

    A professional sniper knows his prey; we have no
    professional snipers in this newsgroup; just a bunch of
    naysayers and miscreants, liars and soul dead, lonely folks,
    those that attack without provocation...and more
    importantly, without preparation.

    When I was battling my way out of Catholicism, I had to
    first deprogram and I did this by laying aside nearly
    everything I had been taught and start all over again. That
    starting point was the Bible, page one, verse one, Genesis.
    By the time I had read through, there was no Catholic left
    in me. antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960222.html Lift
    well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

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  15. Dr. Andrew B. C
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    Mosaic M_uns said:

    On Fri, 21 May 2004 04:40:11 -0400, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung,

    MD/PhD said:
    Quoted message said:

    >And when he returned home from battle, Jephthah's
    >little daughter came running out of the house to hug
    >her daddy's neck not knowing that it was her that
    >would now be killed and her little body burned and
    >offered up to God as the sacrifice that was promised
    >and agreed to. It did in fact happen, according to
    >your own Bible, and your God did in fact accept this
    >sacrifice of a little girl. Your God could have sent
    >the hand of an angel to stop Jephthah as he did with
    >Isaac....but that did not happen to this poor little
    >girl. God accepted his payment for victory over the
    >Ammorites! Read the story for
    >yourselves......(G36.REL)

    >How far would you go MU?

    As far as Christ leads me to.

    Nice answer, brother :-)

    May God continue to bless you and yours today and
    everyday in Christ's name.

    Say a prayer for my rear end.

    Consider it done.

    Quoted message said:


    I am always amazed at those who spend so much of their
    time wasted in attempting to downplay, ridicule or destroy
    Christians and Christianity...without ever having spent
    any real time examining it. Take the poster above.
    Christ's life has many instances where He chose Man over
    family; I would say He made the ultimate choice when he
    went to Jerusalem on that fateful weekend of His
    crucifixion. He knew, they knew, what lay ahead.

    A professional sniper knows his prey; we have no
    professional snipers in this newsgroup; just a bunch of
    naysayers and miscreants, liars and soul dead, lonely
    folks, those that attack without provocation...and more
    importantly, without preparation.

    When I was battling my way out of Catholicism, I had to
    first deprogram and I did this by laying aside nearly
    everything I had been taught and start all over again.
    That starting point was the Bible, page one, verse one,
    Genesis. By the time I had read through, there was no
    Catholic left in me.

    That would be the power of God's Word.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

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    Mosaic M_uns said:

    A professional sniper knows his prey; we have no
    professional snipers in this newsgroup; just a bunch of
    naysayers and miscreants, liars and soul dead, lonely
    folks, those that attack without provocation...and more
    importantly, without preparation.

    This is simply chilling. Anyone who can't distinguish
    between guns and bullets combat and usenet confrontation
    is seriously damaged. Making the connection from one to
    the other with this sort of confused rhetoric shows
    mental problems.

    Of course there are no professional snipers in this group.
    Snipers kill in real life. They're combatants with a .50
    caliber long rifle. Here, it's keyboards.

    As for attacking without provocation, nobody does it like
    Mu. Or as often. Or as viciously. Or as cowardly. A sniper
    puts himself out there at hazard. Mu hides way behind the
    lines and shoots at his betters. No real sniper deals this
    way. He needs to get close enough to his target to be
    vulnerable. Coward Mu just hides and takes no responsibility
    for himself. Baby boy.

    Sad, sick little man. 144 pounds of [censored] with a sorry ass,
    literally. Bluster from inside a size small t-shirt. Strut
    and swagger with a mask.

    Bob

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  17. Mosaic M_uns
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    #17
    MD/PhD said:
    Quoted message said:

    When I was battling my way out of Catholicism, I had to
    first deprogram and I did this by laying aside nearly
    everything I had been taught and start all over again.
    That starting point was the Bible, page one, verse one,
    Genesis. By the time I had read through, there was no
    Catholic left in me.

    That would be the power of God's Word.

    Yes, no doubt about it. I knew something was radically wrong
    with Catholicism. I never read a Bible in all my parochial
    years. I saw nothing but man spinning the Word in ways that
    suited him. No wonder they didn't want us to read it.

    I can tell you this was an emotional experience for me. all
    of what I had senses was wrong WAS wrong. The compassion
    that was lacking was right there and I could feel it as
    surely as I feel the keys on my keyboard. I was moved in
    ways I had never known existed.
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  18. Smoke
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    ">

    Quoted message said:

    That would be the power of God's Word.

    Would you like to see some of God's power (or lack of), it's
    in the form of a binary attachment but will post if
    requested. It may help you to understand why so many people
    don't believe as you do.

    Smoke

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  19. Mosaic M_uns
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    On Fri, 21 May 2004 20:29:51 -0400, "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    A sniper puts himself out there at hazard. Mu hides way
    behind the lines and shoots at his betters. No real sniper
    deals this way.

    lol antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960222.html Lift
    well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

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  20. Bob
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    Mosaic M_uns said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    A sniper puts himself out there at hazard. Mu hides way
    behind the lines and shoots at his betters. No real sniper
    deals this way.

    lol

    Typical content-free Mu post.

    Lightweight left out some good stuff. *Talks* the game
    about snipers; obviously never walked it. The real sniper
    needs to get close enough to his target to be vulnerable.
    Coward Mu just hides and takes no responsibility for
    himself. Baby boy.

    Sad, sick little man. 144 pounds of [censored] with a sorry ass,
    literally. Bluster from inside a size small t-shirt. Strut
    and swagger with a mask.

    Wanna see my Ghillie suit, faker...?

    Bob

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