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  1. I was considering a Chris King Ti headset for my new custom Ti bike that I am putting together.
    chrisking.comhds ti.html

    Is a headset a bad place for titanium ? Anyone own one of these ? Any creaking problems ? How hard
    are these to find ?

    Thanks in advance.
    --
    Randy [email hidden]

  2. Not clear why you would want to use a Ti headset, the regular steel ones are lighter.

    chrisking.comheadsets all.html

    Randy said:

    I was considering a Chris King Ti headset for my new custom Ti bike that I am putting together.
    chrisking.comhds ti.html

    Is a headset a bad place for titanium ? Anyone own one of these ? Any creaking problems ? How hard
    are these to find ?

    Thanks in advance.
    --
    Randy [email hidden]

  3. corrosion resistance? but yeah, the alloy ones are lighter

    "VeloCat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Not clear why you would want to use a Ti headset, the regular steel ones are lighter.

    chrisking.comheadsets all.html

    Randy said:

    I was considering a Chris King Ti headset for my new custom Ti bike that


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    am putting together. chrisking.comhds ti.html

    Is a headset a bad place for titanium ? Anyone own one of these ? Any creaking problems ? How
    hard are these to find ?

    Thanks in advance.
    --
    Randy [email hidden]

  4. Quoted message said:

    Is a headset a bad place for titanium ? Anyone own one of these ? Any creaking problems ? How hard
    are these to find ?

    The question isn't whether a headset is a bad place for titanium, but rather if it's a good place to
    invest a lot of $$$. A Chris King aluminum headset will last a lifetime, and both weighs and costs
    less than a ti model. Best reason to buy one (the only reason I can think of) would be appearance
    but, frankly, headsets don't call all that much attention to themselves and, when they do, it's more
    along the lines of "Ooh, that guy's rich and can afford a Chris King headset" and almost never "Ooh,
    why such a nice bike and just a plain old Cane Creek S6?"

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.com

  5. headsets are getting good enough that you no longer need a chris king label for reliability. The
    headset is a problem that has been solved - probably part of the reason why they had to go and mix
    everything up with integrated headsets.

    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is a headset a bad place for titanium ? Anyone own one of these ? Any creaking problems ? How
    hard are these to find ?

    The question isn't whether a headset is a bad place for titanium, but


    rather

    Quoted message said:

    if it's a good place to invest a lot of $$$. A Chris King aluminum


    headset

    Quoted message said:

    will last a lifetime, and both weighs and costs less than a ti model.


    Best

    Quoted message said:

    reason to buy one (the only reason I can think of) would be appearance


    but,

    Quoted message said:

    frankly, headsets don't call all that much attention to themselves and,


    when

    Quoted message said:

    they do, it's more along the lines of "Ooh, that guy's rich and can afford


    a

    Quoted message said:

    Chris King headset" and almost never "Ooh, why such a nice bike and just a plain old Cane
    Creek S6?"

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.com

  6. Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on
    aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes part art,
    and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it concerns parts for
    the last bike that I am ever going to own. So let's assume then for a moment that I simply like the
    way the Ti headset looks (I do), and that I am willing to accept the 4 extra grams and spend a bit
    more. Not to impress others, but simply for my own enjoyment. 🙂

    Now then, will there be any performance issues with a Ti headset ?

    Randy

  7. I ran a King Ti headset on my Calfee for a year with no issues. ( I sold the Calfee) I'm getting a
    new Calfee and I recently saw a headset by Star that was absolutely exquisite and very minimalist.
    I'm thinking of installing that when the new frame comes in. "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on
    aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes part
    art, and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it concerns parts
    for the last bike that I am ever going to own. So let's assume then for a moment that I simply
    like the way the Ti headset looks (I do), and that I am willing to accept the 4 extra grams and
    spend a bit more. Not


    to

    Quoted message said:

    impress others, but simply for my own enjoyment. 🙂

    Now then, will there be any performance issues with a Ti headset ?

    Randy

  8. No, there are no issues with it (I have one) and I too consider some bike parts works of art. (Which
    is one of the reasons Peter White sells TA Zephyer cranksets. As he says, "Why? Because they are
    beautiful." Don't let the Philistines get you down. Dave "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on
    aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes part
    art, and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it concerns parts
    for the last bike that I am ever going to own. So let's assume then for a moment that I simply
    like the way the Ti headset looks (I do), and that I am willing to accept the 4 extra grams and
    spend a bit more. Not


    to

    Quoted message said:

    impress others, but simply for my own enjoyment. 🙂

    Now then, will there be any performance issues with a Ti headset ?

    Randy

  9. "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on
    aesthetics.

    I know aesthetics is personal, but the I personally don't like the big logos all over the King
    headsets. It looks like gaudy advertising rather than art to me.

  10. "Andrew Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based
    on aesthetics.

    I know aesthetics is personal, but the I personally don't like the big


    logos

    Quoted message said:

    all over the King headsets. It looks like gaudy advertising rather than


    art

    Quoted message said:

    to me.

    Ah, but you can "special order" them with no logos, any color, at no extra charge.

    Robin Hubert

  11. The silver and Ti logos are more subtle than the colored ones.....and isn't the "King Ti" logo on
    the Ti model kind of a cool, sort of dual meaning thing ? 🙂.

    Randy

    "Andrew Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based
    on aesthetics.

    I know aesthetics is personal, but the I personally don't like the big


    logos

    Quoted message said:

    all over the King headsets. It looks like gaudy advertising rather than


    art

    Quoted message said:

    to me.

  12. "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on
    aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes part
    art, and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it concerns parts
    for the last bike that I am ever going to own.

    "The last bike I am ever going to own." HA! That one always gets me. Sorry, but IMO, anyone who's
    into cycling will always buy a new ride sooner or later, especially, as you say, when you consider
    bikes part art. You may hang onto your old "last bike," but you will undoubtedly get sucked into
    buying a shiny new one too.

  13. Russell said:

    "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on
    aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes part
    art, and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it concerns parts
    for the last bike that I am ever going to own.

    "The last bike I am ever going to own." HA! That one always gets me. Sorry, but IMO, anyone who's
    into cycling will always buy a new ride sooner or later, especially, as you say, when you consider
    bikes part art. You may hang onto your old "last bike," but you will undoubtedly get sucked into
    buying a shiny new one too.

    I always say that my current ride is the latest in a series of "last bikes I will ever own".

  14. That's a very scary thought given what I am about to pay for this one....

    Randy

  15. in article [email hidden], VeloCat at [email hidden] wrote on
    02/17/2003 08:40 AM:

    Quoted message said:
    Russell said:

    "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based
    on aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes
    part art, and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it
    concerns parts for the last bike that I am ever going to own.

    "The last bike I am ever going to own." HA! That one always gets me. Sorry, but IMO, anyone who's
    into cycling will always buy a new ride sooner or later, especially, as you say, when you
    consider bikes part art. You may hang onto your old "last bike," but you will undoubtedly get
    sucked into buying a shiny new one too.

    I always say that my current ride is the latest in a series of "last bikes I will ever own".

    There's a huge difference in "the last bike I am ever going to OWN" and "the last bike I am every
    going to BUY" ... my current Ron Cooper, and my forthcoming Richard Sachs will be the two last bikes
    I will ever own (at least that is currently the plan), however, I fully expect that I will buy (and
    sell) other bikes along the line.

    --

    Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum
    pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea aye tee why you ti
    ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-ewe
    dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

  16. Steven L. Sheffield <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws
    [email hidden]... <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    There's a huge difference in "the last bike I am ever going to OWN" and


    "the

    Quoted message said:

    last bike I am every going to BUY" ... my current Ron Cooper, and my forthcoming Richard Sachs
    will be the two last bikes I will ever own (at least that is currently the plan), however, I fully
    expect that I will buy (and sell) other bikes along the line.

    How about this alternative: 'my grandchildren will inherit this bike (or at least the frame...)'.

  17. Dave Novoselsky said:

    No, there are no issues with it (I have one) and I too consider some bike parts works of art.
    (Which is one of the reasons Peter White sells TA Zephyer cranksets. As he says, "Why? Because
    they are beautiful." Don't let the Philistines get you down. Dave

    I don't think the Zephyr is particularly beautiful. It's kind of plain looking. I think the RaceFace
    Next LP in red is much nicer looking. However, the Zephyr is probably the most versatile crank on
    the market because the same crank can be used as a 74/110 BCD or a 56/110 BCD, making it great for
    loaded touring or general road riding with a simple swap of the chain rings.

    --Bill Davidson
    --
    Please remove ".nospam" from my address for email replies.

  18. "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I was considering a Chris King Ti headset for my new custom Ti bike that I am putting together.
    chrisking.comhds ti.html

    Is a headset a bad place for titanium ? Anyone own one of these ? Any creaking problems ? How hard
    are these to find ?

    Thanks in advance.

    All the benefits of an aluminum Chris King headset, plus added weight and expense! Stick with
    aluminum. Just 'cus something is made out of Ti doesn't mean it's the right application of the
    matrial. Ti spokes come to mind. --Jim

  19. (Meccanico di Bici) said:

    Stick with aluminum. Just 'cus something is made out of Ti doesn't mean it's the right application
    of the matrial. Ti spokes come to mind.

    Yeah, no reason to use Ti when magnesium spokes are so much lighter.

  20. Having built several pairs of wheels with Ti spokes when they first came out, I really liked the
    weight and ride. They were great for the first 3 years. Then spokes started breaking... Now I don't
    ride Ti spokes.

    Boy were those some light wheels!

    "Meccanico di Bici" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I was considering a Chris King Ti headset for my new custom Ti bike that


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    am putting together. chrisking.comhds ti.html

    Is a headset a bad place for titanium ? Anyone own one of these ? Any creaking problems ? How
    hard are these to find ?

    Thanks in advance.

    All the benefits of an aluminum Chris King headset, plus added weight and expense! Stick with
    aluminum. Just 'cus something is made out of Ti doesn't mean it's the right application of the
    matrial. Ti spokes come to mind. --Jim

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