Is a headset a bad place for titanium ? Anyone own one of these ? Any creaking problems ? How hard are these to find ?
The question isn't whether a headset is a bad place for titanium, but rather if it's a good place to invest a lot of $$$. A Chris King aluminum headset will last a lifetime, and both weighs and costs less than a ti model. Best reason to buy one (the only reason I can think of) would be appearance but, frankly, headsets don't call all that much attention to themselves and, when they do, it's more along the lines of "Ooh, that guy's rich and can afford a Chris King headset" and almost never "Ooh, why such a nice bike and just a plain old Cane Creek S6?"
headsets are getting good enough that you no longer need a chris king label for reliability. The headset is a problem that has been solved - probably part of the reason why they had to go and mix everything up with integrated headsets.
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Is a headset a bad place for titanium ? Anyone own one of these ? Any creaking problems ? How hard are these to find ?
The question isn't whether a headset is a bad place for titanium, but
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if it's a good place to invest a lot of $$$. A Chris King aluminum
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will last a lifetime, and both weighs and costs less than a ti model.
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reason to buy one (the only reason I can think of) would be appearance
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frankly, headsets don't call all that much attention to themselves and,
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they do, it's more along the lines of "Ooh, that guy's rich and can afford
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Chris King headset" and almost never "Ooh, why such a nice bike and just a plain old Cane Creek S6?"
Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes part art, and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it concerns parts for the last bike that I am ever going to own. So let's assume then for a moment that I simply like the way the Ti headset looks (I do), and that I am willing to accept the 4 extra grams and spend a bit more. Not to impress others, but simply for my own enjoyment. 🙂
Now then, will there be any performance issues with a Ti headset ?
I ran a King Ti headset on my Calfee for a year with no issues. ( I sold the Calfee) I'm getting a new Calfee and I recently saw a headset by Star that was absolutely exquisite and very minimalist. I'm thinking of installing that when the new frame comes in. "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes part art, and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it concerns parts for the last bike that I am ever going to own. So let's assume then for a moment that I simply like the way the Ti headset looks (I do), and that I am willing to accept the 4 extra grams and spend a bit more. Not
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impress others, but simply for my own enjoyment. 🙂
Now then, will there be any performance issues with a Ti headset ?
No, there are no issues with it (I have one) and I too consider some bike parts works of art. (Which is one of the reasons Peter White sells TA Zephyer cranksets. As he says, "Why? Because they are beautiful." Don't let the Philistines get you down. Dave "Randy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes part art, and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it concerns parts for the last bike that I am ever going to own. So let's assume then for a moment that I simply like the way the Ti headset looks (I do), and that I am willing to accept the 4 extra grams and spend a bit more. Not
to
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impress others, but simply for my own enjoyment. 🙂
Now then, will there be any performance issues with a Ti headset ?
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Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on aesthetics.
I know aesthetics is personal, but the I personally don't like the big logos all over the King headsets. It looks like gaudy advertising rather than art to me.
The silver and Ti logos are more subtle than the colored ones.....and isn't the "King Ti" logo on the Ti model kind of a cool, sort of dual meaning thing ? 🙂.
Randy
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Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on aesthetics.
I know aesthetics is personal, but the I personally don't like the big
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all over the King headsets. It looks like gaudy advertising rather than
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Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes part art, and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it concerns parts for the last bike that I am ever going to own.
"The last bike I am ever going to own." HA! That one always gets me. Sorry, but IMO, anyone who's into cycling will always buy a new ride sooner or later, especially, as you say, when you consider bikes part art. You may hang onto your old "last bike," but you will undoubtedly get sucked into buying a shiny new one too.
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Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes part art, and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it concerns parts for the last bike that I am ever going to own.
"The last bike I am ever going to own." HA! That one always gets me. Sorry, but IMO, anyone who's into cycling will always buy a new ride sooner or later, especially, as you say, when you consider bikes part art. You may hang onto your old "last bike," but you will undoubtedly get sucked into buying a shiny new one too.
I always say that my current ride is the latest in a series of "last bikes I will ever own".
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Thanks for the expected lectures regarding the evils of paying extra for something simply based on aesthetics. I'm afraid that I have to admit (gulp) to being on of those who consider bikes part art, and for whom aesthetics plays a role in purchase decisions, expecially when it concerns parts for the last bike that I am ever going to own.
"The last bike I am ever going to own." HA! That one always gets me. Sorry, but IMO, anyone who's into cycling will always buy a new ride sooner or later, especially, as you say, when you consider bikes part art. You may hang onto your old "last bike," but you will undoubtedly get sucked into buying a shiny new one too.
I always say that my current ride is the latest in a series of "last bikes I will ever own".
There's a huge difference in "the last bike I am ever going to OWN" and "the last bike I am every going to BUY" ... my current Ron Cooper, and my forthcoming Richard Sachs will be the two last bikes I will ever own (at least that is currently the plan), however, I fully expect that I will buy (and sell) other bikes along the line.
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There's a huge difference in "the last bike I am ever going to OWN" and
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last bike I am every going to BUY" ... my current Ron Cooper, and my forthcoming Richard Sachs will be the two last bikes I will ever own (at least that is currently the plan), however, I fully expect that I will buy (and sell) other bikes along the line.
How about this alternative: 'my grandchildren will inherit this bike (or at least the frame...)'.
No, there are no issues with it (I have one) and I too consider some bike parts works of art. (Which is one of the reasons Peter White sells TA Zephyer cranksets. As he says, "Why? Because they are beautiful." Don't let the Philistines get you down. Dave
I don't think the Zephyr is particularly beautiful. It's kind of plain looking. I think the RaceFace Next LP in red is much nicer looking. However, the Zephyr is probably the most versatile crank on the market because the same crank can be used as a 74/110 BCD or a 56/110 BCD, making it great for loaded touring or general road riding with a simple swap of the chain rings.
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I was considering a Chris King Ti headset for my new custom Ti bike that I am putting together. chrisking.comhds ti.htmlOpen ↗
Is a headset a bad place for titanium ? Anyone own one of these ? Any creaking problems ? How hard are these to find ?
Thanks in advance.
All the benefits of an aluminum Chris King headset, plus added weight and expense! Stick with aluminum. Just 'cus something is made out of Ti doesn't mean it's the right application of the matrial. Ti spokes come to mind. --Jim
Having built several pairs of wheels with Ti spokes when they first came out, I really liked the weight and ride. They were great for the first 3 years. Then spokes started breaking... Now I don't ride Ti spokes.
Boy were those some light wheels!
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I was considering a Chris King Ti headset for my new custom Ti bike that
Is a headset a bad place for titanium ? Anyone own one of these ? Any creaking problems ? How hard are these to find ?
Thanks in advance.
All the benefits of an aluminum Chris King headset, plus added weight and expense! Stick with aluminum. Just 'cus something is made out of Ti doesn't mean it's the right application of the matrial. Ti spokes come to mind. --Jim