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  1. Gal Called J.J. said:


    One time on Usenet said:

    nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping list)

    What's an egg cream, Nancy?

    An NYC treat. Imagine a chocolate ice cream soda without the ice cream,
    only richer. :-)

    Priscilla

  2. "Priscilla H. Ballou" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Gal Called J.J. said:


    One time on Usenet said:

    nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping
    list)

    What's an egg cream, Nancy?

    An NYC treat. Imagine a chocolate ice cream soda without the ice cream,
    only richer. :-)

    It is a treat. Seltzer, Fox's U-Bet and ... ahhhh! someone help me ...
    cream?
    No eggs.

    nancy

  3. Nancy Young said:


    "Priscilla H. Ballou" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Gal Called J.J. said:


    One time on Usenet, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> said:
    > nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping
    > list)

    What's an egg cream, Nancy?

    An NYC treat. Imagine a chocolate ice cream soda without the ice cream,
    only richer. :-)

    It is a treat. Seltzer, Fox's U-Bet and ... ahhhh! someone help me ...
    cream?
    No eggs.

    I make 'em with milk/cream, chocolate syrup, and seltzer.

    Priscilla

  4. One time on Usenet said:
    Gal Called J.J. said:

    One time on Usenet, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> said:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping list)

    What's an egg cream, Nancy?

    An NYC treat. Imagine a chocolate ice cream soda
    without the ice cream, only richer. :-)

    I've never had a ice cream soda either. Is it anything like a float?
    Still, it sounds good, I'm all for any food that's "rich"... :-)

    --
    J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
    "You still haven't explained why the pool is
    filled with elf blood." - Frylock, ATHF

  5. Gal Called J.J. said:


    One time on Usenet said:
    Gal Called J.J. said:

    One time on Usenet, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> said:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping list)

    What's an egg cream, Nancy?

    An NYC treat. Imagine a chocolate ice cream soda
    without the ice cream, only richer. :-)

    I've never had a ice cream soda either. Is it anything like a float?
    Still, it sounds good, I'm all for any food that's "rich"... :-)

    Take a tall glass. Pour in a couple of ounces of cream followed by a
    ounce or two of chocolate syrup. Pour in cold seltzer, stirring all the
    while. Stick in a straw and slurp it up.

    Priscilla

  6. One time on Usenet said:

    "Gal Called J.J." wrote:

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've never had a ice cream soda either. Is it anything like a float?
    Still, it sounds good, I'm all for any food that's "rich"... :-)

    Take a tall glass. Pour in a couple of ounces of cream followed by a
    ounce or two of chocolate syrup. Pour in cold seltzer, stirring all the
    while. Stick in a straw and slurp it up.

    Oh, so that's a soda, eh? I've heard of them over the years (I'm 41),
    but never tried one. It sounds good, thanks for the instructions...

    --
    J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
    "You still haven't explained why the pool is
    filled with elf blood." - Frylock, ATHF

  7. at Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:01:20 GMT in <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] (Janet Bostwick) wrote :

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    "Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Janet Bostwick said:


    Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15


    pound

    Quoted message said:

    blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe?...

    Actually it's the other way around. Bagged chocolate chips
    are a substitute for block chocolate that's been chopped into
    pieces.

    Possible issue - Something waxy may be added to the chips
    that would effect the texture. Expect softer more chewy
    cookies.


    There's something rattling around in my brain regarding that issue. But
    the recipe called for chips and we'll see how half chips and half chipped
    slab works out. Thanks.

    Chocolate chips are generally made with less cocoa butter than block
    chocolate "couverture". This is so that, used in chocolate chip cookies,
    they don't melt as quickly. Very few chocolate chips that I know of add
    anything waxy - most of them simply use less cocoa butter (and it's for
    this reason that chocolate chips are generally the cheapest format for dark
    chocolate - cocoa butter is expensive, and the less you have in there, the
    less expensive the chocolate will be).

    In a recipe that doesn't call for the chips to be used similarly to a
    chocolate chip cookie - folded or stirred or kneaded into a dough or batter
    and then baked, block chocolate couverture almost always gives slightly
    better results. It's especially true if the chocolate is to be melted:
    couverture melts faster and more uniformly. In your quick fudge recipe,
    the block chocolate will work perfectly. I should note that in a recipe
    that *does* call for chips to be used in their classic application, the
    purpose-made chips will perform better. They won't flatten as much and they
    resist the streaky, separated effect that block chocolate usually develops.

    --
    Alex Rast
    [email hidden]
    (remove d., .7, not, and .NOSPAM to reply)

  8. "Alex Rast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    at Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:01:20 GMT in <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] (Janet Bostwick) wrote :


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    Quoted message said:
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    > Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15
    pound
    > blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe?...


    snip

    Quoted message said:

    Chocolate chips are generally made with less cocoa butter than block
    chocolate "couverture". This is so that, used in chocolate chip cookies,
    they don't melt as quickly. Very few chocolate chips that I know of add
    anything waxy - most of them simply use less cocoa butter (and it's for
    this reason that chocolate chips are generally the cheapest format for
    dark
    chocolate - cocoa butter is expensive, and the less you have in there, the
    less expensive the chocolate will be).

    In a recipe that doesn't call for the chips to be used similarly to a
    chocolate chip cookie - folded or stirred or kneaded into a dough or
    batter
    and then baked, block chocolate couverture almost always gives slightly
    better results. It's especially true if the chocolate is to be melted:
    couverture melts faster and more uniformly. In your quick fudge recipe,
    the block chocolate will work perfectly. I should note that in a recipe
    that *does* call for chips to be used in their classic application, the
    purpose-made chips will perform better. They won't flatten as much and
    they
    resist the streaky, separated effect that block chocolate usually
    develops.

    --
    Alex Rast
    [email hidden]
    (remove d., .7, not, and .NOSPAM to reply)

    Thank you for the information, Alex. You've explained the difference so
    that I will be able to keep it in mind.
    I used half of each kind of chocolate. The mixture did melt easier in the
    pot. I thought that was simply because I'd used my chef's knife and the
    chocolate was shaved more than chipped. The candy feels slightly creamier
    in the mouth and appears a little smoother to the eye. I definitely like
    the flavor better, the Ghirardelli is nice.

    I would have reported back yesterday but I never got around to making the
    candy. I got snarled up with a phone call to HP tech support. Whatever you
    do, never phone tech support anymore. Due to language barrier, I spent over
    10 minutes just trying to get my name and phone number across to the tech
    person. It was a mutual thing. I absolutely could not understand him and
    he for sure couldn't understand me. I only phoned because my first online
    chat didn't solve my printer problem. An hour and a half later I simply
    hung up the phone. Then I tried online chat again--this time I got someone
    that listened and didn't need to run me through all the steps on the techie
    cheat sheet. Anyway, after that, I just went to bed with a headache.
    Janet

  9. at Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:40:50 GMT in <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] (Janet Bostwick) wrote :

    ....

    Quoted message said:


    I would have reported back yesterday but I never got around to making
    the candy. I got snarled up with a phone call to HP tech support.
    Whatever you do, never phone tech support anymore. Due to language
    barrier, I spent over 10 minutes just trying to get my name and phone
    number across to the tech person.

    Ah, the joys of outsourcing. I'd like to point out to every company that
    outsources tech support in order to cut costs, that if your tech support
    costs are really so staggering as to require you to outsource, you don't
    have a tech support problem, you've got a product problem. In other words,
    the total number of calls you should *ever* get to tech support should be
    minimal. Any product that generates lots of tech support calls is either
    badly designed or badly built. A well-designed product should be pretty
    turnkey and reliable with any system or configuration.

    --
    Alex Rast
    [email hidden]
    (remove d., .7, not, and .NOSPAM to reply)

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