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  1. Reg said:


    Arri London said:

    That's likely to be true of course. A few years ago my
    mother bought some chile plants labelled as 'Anaheim';
    she is a chile wimp. She showed me the photos of what
    grew: habaneros LOL! Fortunately she didn't try to eat
    them....

    That's hysterical. It's like ordering a beer and getting
    served liquid LSD.

    Of course, most young chile plants look identical. We've had
    mislabelled plants before. Until the fruit starts to form,
    not easy to tell which is which. We now have a 'mystery'
    chile plant that wasn't labelled at all. However the chiles
    now forming are one of the elongated sorts, so I know they
    aren't habaneros or scotch bonnets or any of the spherical
    chiles. Needs a little while more to see just what they are.

  2. Rich McCormack said:
    Arri London said:


    BubbaBob said:

    Arri London <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > True, but according to the Chile Pepper Institute, NM
    > does grow 'mild' green chiles. But mild is relative of
    > course.
    >

    The mildest NM-grown green is probably 5 times the
    Scoville rating of a California-grown Anaheim.

    That's likely to be true of course.

    For storebought, but not necessarily home garden grown.
    I've grown Anaheims from both nursery plants and seed for
    years here in sunny SoCal, and the heat varies from year
    to year...none seriously hot, but some years they have
    respectable heat. Weather and watering habits have a
    significant effect on chile heat.

    Quoted message said:

    A few years ago my mother bought some chile plants
    labelled as 'Anaheim'; she is a chile wimp. She showed me
    the photos of what grew: habaneros LOL! Fortunately she
    didn't try to eat them....

    Years ago I bought a six-pack of chile plants from a local
    nursery. They were labeled chile negro, described as "long
    black chile" and had a picture on the label of what looked
    like a chilaca chile. I ended up with little, 1 to 1 1/2
    inch long, upright oriented, jet black chiles with "hotter
    'n hell" heat but very little flavor.

    Rich

    Seems a lot of folks here are not getting the chilies they
    want from store-bought seeds or plants. Others have said,
    just get a chili you want from the market and use the seeds
    from that. Makes perfect sense. Haven't heard anyone
    complain about a different chili growing.

    jim

  3. JimLane said:


    Default User said:
    JimLane said:

    Seems a lot of folks here are not getting the chilies
    they want from store-bought seeds or plants. Others have
    said, just get a chili you want from the market and use
    the seeds from that. Makes perfect sense. Haven't heard
    anyone complain about a different chili growing.

    That's not likely to work. Most produce in the stores
    are from hybrid plants and what grows from the seeds
    are different. Now if you are getting an heirloom
    variety, then the seeds will probably breed true. Not
    to mention that if I were going to raise chiles, I
    wouldn't want those watered-down ones they have in the
    stores these days.

    Brian Rodenborn

    You can try telling that to the jalapenos that bush in my
    mom's garden. You can tell that to the serranos that grow
    at the other end. All from seeds from fruit brought at the
    local Von's. Haven't tried habaneros yet, but thinking
    about it.

    Anything else?

    jim

    You are lucky, that's all. Most commercial varieties are
    hybrids which may either be sterile or not breed true. We
    grow a lot of chiles and seeds from storebought chiles are
    very rarely successful. I do save seeds from our own chiles
    and those grow well.

  4. Arri London said:

    Of course, most young chile plants look identical. We've
    had mislabelled plants before. Until the fruit starts to
    form, not easy to tell which is which. We now have a
    'mystery' chile plant that wasn't labelled at all. However
    the chiles now forming are one of the elongated sorts, so
    I know they aren't habaneros or scotch bonnets or any of
    the spherical chiles. Needs a little while more to see
    just what they are.

    So which kind are you hoping for?

    After smoking a full load of habaneros today I had to walk
    away until the cloud around the smoker dispersed. The stuff
    is so intense it was burning my eyes just being within a few
    feet of it.

    --
    Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot)
    com

  5. JimLane said:


    Rich McCormack said:
    Arri London said:


    BubbaBob wrote:

    > Arri London <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >> True, but according to the Chile Pepper Institute, NM
    >> does grow 'mild' green chiles. But mild is relative
    >> of course.
    >>
    >
    > The mildest NM-grown green is probably 5 times the
    > Scoville rating of a California-grown Anaheim.

    That's likely to be true of course.

    For storebought, but not necessarily home garden grown.
    I've grown Anaheims from both nursery plants and seed
    for years here in sunny SoCal, and the heat varies from
    year to year...none seriously hot, but some years they
    have respectable heat. Weather and watering habits have
    a significant effect on chile heat.

    Quoted message said:

    A few years ago my mother bought some chile plants
    labelled as 'Anaheim'; she is a chile wimp. She showed
    me the photos of what grew: habaneros LOL! Fortunately
    she didn't try to eat them....

    Years ago I bought a six-pack of chile plants from a
    local nursery. They were labeled chile negro, described
    as "long black chile" and had a picture on the label of
    what looked like a chilaca chile. I ended up with
    little, 1 to 1 1/2 inch long, upright oriented, jet
    black chiles with "hotter 'n hell" heat but very little
    flavor.

    Rich

    Seems a lot of folks here are not getting the chilies they
    want from store-bought seeds or plants. Others have said,
    just get a chili you want from the market and use the
    seeds from that. Makes perfect sense. Haven't heard anyone
    complain about a different chili growing.

    jim

    Doesn't always work.

  6. JimLane said:


    Seems a lot of folks here are not getting the chilies they
    want from store-bought seeds or plants. Others have said,
    just get a chili you want from the market and use the
    seeds from that. Makes perfect sense. Haven't heard anyone
    complain about a different chili growing.

    jim

    That won't always work. A great many commercial varieties
    are hybrids and won't breed true in the F1 generation.

  7. "Reg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    After smoking a full load of habaneros today I had to walk
    away until the cloud around the smoker dispersed. The
    stuff is so intense it was burning my eyes just being
    within a few feet of it.

    yeah. I was makign harissa some years back, and ground up
    a bunch of chillis and garlic in the food processor to
    start, and made the mistake of taking the lid off and
    peering in. Gaaah!

    ant

  8. Reg said:


    Arri London said:

    Of course, most young chile plants look identical. We've
    had mislabelled plants before. Until the fruit starts to
    form, not easy to tell which is which. We now have a
    'mystery' chile plant that wasn't labelled at all.
    However the chiles now forming are one of the elongated
    sorts, so I know they aren't habaneros or scotch bonnets
    or any of the spherical chiles. Needs a little while
    more to see just what they are.

    So which kind are you hoping for?

    Doesn't matter really. I like them all. The very thin Thai
    chiles would be nice. The ones I started last year from
    seed never amounted to anything and they are a little
    expensive locally.

    Quoted message said:


    After smoking a full load of habaneros today I had to walk
    away until the cloud around the smoker dispersed. The
    stuff is so intense it was burning my eyes just being
    within a few feet of it.

    --
    Reg

    LOL! Sounds like chile roasting season in New Mexico. Smells
    nice from a distance, but can be deadly close up 🙂

  9. BubbaBob said:
    JimLane said:

    Seems a lot of folks here are not getting the chilies they
    want from store-bought seeds or plants. Others have said,
    just get a chili you want from the market and use the
    seeds from that. Makes perfect sense. Haven't heard anyone
    complain about a different chili growing.

    jim

    That won't always work. A great many commercial varieties
    are hybrids and won't breed true in the F1 generation.

    Never said "always," said, "others." Get the drift? Will it
    hurt for them to try? Or should they forgo this because you
    said it doesn't always work? What a crock.

    jim

  10. On Fri, 14 May 2004 04:01:05 GMT, BubbaBob

    rnorton@_remove_this_medlab5.unm.edu said:
    Maverick said:

    And, as for New Mexico, they grow the best green
    (aneheim) chilies there is so I think their voice counts
    quite a bit. But, admittedly, I'm biased. My wife is from
    NM and being in NM in September will definitely let you
    know Chile is in the air. Very fragrant when everyone is
    outside roasting them.

    But, that's just my opinion. Your mileage may vary. ;->

    Bret

    We don't grow Anaheim chiles in New Mexico. The Anaheim is
    a weak- flavored deheated mutated New Mexican chile
    cultivar that is usually grown in California. Its ancestry
    is definitely New Mexican, though.

    i think this is the first time i've read a criticism of a
    plant that its parents were no-accounts anyway.

    your pal, spud

  11. "blake murphy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    i think this is the first time i've read a criticism of a
    plant that its parents were no-accounts anyway.

    And its mother wears army boots.

    ant

  12. On Fri, 21 May 2004 17:22:02 -0600, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Seems a lot of folks here are not getting the chilies
    they want from store-bought seeds or plants. Others have
    said, just get a chili you want from the market and use
    the seeds from that. Makes perfect sense. Haven't heard
    anyone complain about a different chili growing.

    jim

    Doesn't always work.

    this means that there are anti-pepper witches in your
    neighborhood.

    your pal, blake

  13. blake murphy said:


    Arri London said:
    Quoted message said:


    Seems a lot of folks here are not getting the chilies
    they want from store-bought seeds or plants. Others
    have said, just get a chili you want from the market
    and use the seeds from that. Makes perfect sense.
    Haven't heard anyone complain about a different chili
    growing.

    jim

    Doesn't always work.

    this means that there are anti-pepper witches in your
    neighborhood.

    your pal, blake

    LOL! Just genetics.

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