child trailer

Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:26:14 -0600, <[email hidden]>,

Tim McNamara said:

I've never used OE so I have no
specific idea what setting might be changed, unfortunately (actually,
I've never used Windows for more than a few minutes).

I'm a pleb who has never used anything but Windows. Though, I've not
permitted any Microsoft application web access since ~1996.

I settled on Forte Agent for Usenet when it was still in beta as it
automated downloading, concatenating and decoding multi-part binaries
better than anything else for Windows.
--
zk

David
I'm not writing this to argue or contradict you.
Computers & the internet baffle me.
What newsreader (& sender. I desperately need one w/ a good spell
check) should I be using? I certainly don't like Google, but I'm
familiar w/ it. I would prefer to not pay for one not so much because
of the $, rather I just don’t want to be bothered paying another bill
every month.
Happy Holidays, John

Quoted message said:

David
I'm not writing this to argue or contradict you.
Computers & the internet baffle me.
What newsreader (& sender. I desperately need one w/ a good spell
check) should I be using? I certainly don't like Google, but I'm
familiar w/ it. I would prefer to not pay for one not so much because
of the $, rather I just don�t want to be bothered paying another bill
every month.
Happy Holidays, John

Have you tried thunderbird? www.mozilla.org (free, available virtually
for any platform)
I like it a lot, could be worth a try. I never used the spell checker,
so I cannot judge on that.

Francesco

Zoot Katz said:

Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:26:14 -0600, <[email hidden]>,

Tim McNamara said:

I've never used OE so I have no specific idea what setting might be
changed, unfortunately (actually, I've never used Windows for more
than a few minutes).

I'm a pleb who has never used anything but Windows. Though, I've not
permitted any Microsoft application web access since ~1996.

I settled on Forte Agent for Usenet when it was still in beta as it
automated downloading, concatenating and decoding multi-part
binaries better than anything else for Windows.

I've of course never used Forte Agent, never having used Windows more
than momentarily. I have seen several people speak very highly of it,
however.

Tim McNamara said:

Zoot Katz said:

I settled on Forte Agent for Usenet when it was still in beta as it
automated downloading, concatenating and decoding multi-part
binaries better than anything else for Windows.

I've of course never used Forte Agent, never having used Windows more
than momentarily. I have seen several people speak very highly of it,
however.

Works fine under Wine.

Pat

Email address works as is.

begin quoting Tim McNamara <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Well, then, Claire, I stand corrected! David, I am curious about what
it is that you did, since it is transparent to my newsreaders.

OE interprets any line beginning;

begin<space><space>

as starting an attachment, because that's how uuencoded attachments start.
This is symptomatic of the more general problem that MSIE (which is
hopelessly intertwined with MSOE) tries to infer the type of a document
from the contents, not from the headers (eg, the Content-Type: header of
an HTTP response) and an absurdly wide idea of what might be uuencoded.

It doesn't affect any other newsreader since no-one else has been daft
enough to implement such a misfeature; and as you will appreciate it's
unequivocally true that there is nothing wrong with my articles per se.
--
David Damerell <[email hidden]> flcl?

David Damerell wrote (and I had to use someone else's thoughtfully-provided
trick to unearth):

OE interprets any line beginning;

begin<space><space>

as starting an attachment, because that's how uuencoded attachments start.
This is symptomatic of the more general problem that MSIE (which is
hopelessly intertwined with MSOE) tries to infer the type of a document
from the contents, not from the headers (eg, the Content-Type: header of
an HTTP response) and an absurdly wide idea of what might be uuencoded.

It doesn't affect any other newsreader since no-one else has been daft
enough to implement such a misfeature; and as you will appreciate it's
unequivocally true that there is nothing wrong with my articles per se.

Neil Brooks Replies:

So, David . . . I take it that you /are/ either intentionally inserting the
"begin<space><space>" text into your posts, or at least are doing /nothing/
to remove them once programmatically inserted by your newsreader software?

Claire Petersky said:

Your messages are all as attachments, and can't be read under OE. As a
result, you appear to be posting blank messages. I tried to contact you
privately, but the mail bounced.

Someone else, on a different newsgroup, when alerted to this problem, let us
all know that he felt like it was our tough luck for using a lousy Microsoft
product. I hope your attitude is not the same. After all, the point of
usenet is communication. OE is a widely-used product, even if you don't like
it, or think we should all be using some other newsreader. If you post
things that a large number of people can't read, then it's not just us who
are losing out.

Having just read a number of responses to this article, let me gently
suggest that using OE is not a good idea for a number of reasons, not
least of which is potential virus vulnerability.

Has anyone else noticed that over the past couple of years the most
damaging viruses have exploited security deficiencies in MS products?
For this reason (and a bit of anti-MS prejudice) I use Pegasus Mail
(email), Firefox (browser), and Agent (newsreader); even though I run
Windows XP.

jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

Quoted message said:

David
I'm not writing this to argue or contradict you.
Computers & the internet baffle me.
What newsreader (& sender. I desperately need one w/ a good spell
check) should I be using? I certainly don't like Google, but I'm
familiar w/ it. I would prefer to not pay for one not so much because
of the $, rather I just don? want to be bothered paying another bill
every month.

For years I used WinVN, a free newsreader that was supported by
volunteers from NASA (IIRC). I ran it on my first Windows 95 system
and found it ever so much more user friendly than rn (remember rn?).

When I got a system that ran Windows XP I discovered that WinVN
wouldn't run under XP, so I "upgraded" to Agent. Somewhere over the
past couple of years I seem to recall hearing that there was now an XP
compatible version of WinVN, so I just did some googling.

A guy by the name of Mark Spankus has done some work on WinVN, and you
can find a free downloadable version at:
http://my.execpc.com/~mspankus/

I can't vouch for it's reliability, and can't recall if it had a spell
checker; but as I do recall it was pretty user friendly and FREE.

jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:18:41 -0600, Zippy the Pinhead
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Thge mind boggles. Why would you need a helmet inside a stable
two-wheel trailer in the first place?

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Simple. If you want your kid to wear a helmet when s/he rides a bike,
you start getting the kid used to wearing a helmet when s/he rides the
trailer. And, of course, you model such behavior by wearing one
yourself while you're towing the trailer.

And in the car, of course, since that's where the majority of serious
head injuries occur.

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I know what your answer will be. I'm not trying to influence YOU to
wear a helmet, but you will proselytize me to repent and cast away my
helmet.

An argument which is flawed at its outset. Click the link in the
..sig.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

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Rich said:

Yea. I cut the back of my kids helmet off using a bandsaw just so it
wouldn't do that.

Great mental image.

"Hold still for daddy, I've got to take off just a little more"

ROFL

😄

Or did you take it off first? :/

He said *band saw* so of course he removed the helmet first. Everybody knows
that if the child is still wearing the helmet you use a *chain saw*. Geez!

Regards,
Bob Hunt