Child cancer rates 'increasing'

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As long as the world fights over borders, politics, religion, money and
greed do you think the earth
will be the focus of pollution reduction?
And as long as fast food places serve children it will continue.
High fat diets will kill more people all the time.

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How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for cancer
research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is increasing
and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by traditional
Western medicine.
Cutting out an infected organ is not a cure, its mutilation. Chemotherapy
and radiation is another form of mutilation and unless lifestyle changes are
made by the patient, cancer will eventually return. Alternative ways can and
dso cure cancer by removing the cause and creating an environment in the
body in which cancer can not live. Cancer can not survive in an oxygenated
environment. Like chemotherapy, organic germanium kills cancer cells.
Unlike chemotherapy, organic germanium doesn't kill healthy cells and
poision the body.

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Anth

How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for cancer
research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is increasing
and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by traditional
Western medicine.

That's what happens when you bury your head in the sand while pounding spam up
your ass, Spammin' Dave. Cancer is quite frequently cured as documented by
Orac, Peter Moran, et al.

BTW, no MLM products cure or heal cancer, no matter how much Spammin' Dave
wants you to believe.

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How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for cancer
research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is

increasing

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and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by traditional
Western medicine.

That's what happens when you bury your head in the sand while pounding

spam up

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your ass, Spammin' Dave. Cancer is quite frequently cured as documented

by

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Orac, Peter Moran, et al.

Really? Anybody who might believe you (?) should simply go to
http://www.google.ca/
and search on "cancer cure".

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Anth

How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for cancer
research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is

increasing

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and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by traditional
Western medicine.

That's what happens when you bury your head in the sand while pounding

spam up

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your ass, Spammin' Dave. Cancer is quite frequently cured as documented

by

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Orac, Peter Moran, et al.

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BTW, no MLM products cure or heal cancer, no matter how much Spammin' Dave
wants you to believe.

Well , shoot that's gonna come as a surprise to people I know who have cured
themselves of cancer !!. LOL
Do you get your obsession with the anus from constantly looking at yourself
in the mirror ?
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Subject: Re: Child cancer rates 'increasing'
From: "Bew" qw@nonamewhatsover
Date: 4/14/2004 9:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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Well , shoot that's gonna come as a surprise to people I know who have cured
themselves of cancer !!. LOL

please post the pathology reports...before and after these "self cures"..

surely these folks have such proof??

hawki.....

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How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for

cancer

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research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is

increasing

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and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by traditional
Western medicine.

That's what happens when you bury your head in the sand while pounding

spam up

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your ass, Spammin' Dave. Cancer is quite frequently cured as documented

by

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Orac, Peter Moran, et al.

Really? Anybody who might believe you (?) should simply go to
http://www.google.ca/
and search on "cancer cure".

Like this one?

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/10/walker.htm

Spammin Dave, you sure do know how to remain clueless.

Purely anecdotal, of course, but my friend Tom is cured of colon cancer. He
had it seven years ago, had surgery followed by chemo, and is doing just
great.

Thus, your original claim is wrong.

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How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for

cancer

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research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is

increasing

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and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by traditional
Western medicine.

That's what happens when you bury your head in the sand while pounding

spam up

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your ass, Spammin' Dave. Cancer is quite frequently cured as documented

by

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Orac, Peter Moran, et al.

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;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
BTW, no MLM products cure or heal cancer, no matter how much Spammin'

Dave

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wants you to believe.

Well , shoot that's gonna come as a surprise to people I know who have

cured

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themselves of cancer !!. LOL
Do you get your obsession with the anus from constantly looking at

yourself

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in the mirror ?

Nah. We know that the anus is the way some, like you, provide information.

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>> Anth
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>How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for

cancer

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>research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is

increasing

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>and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by traditional
>Western medicine.

That's what happens when you bury your head in the sand while pounding

spam up

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your ass, Spammin' Dave. Cancer is quite frequently cured as documented

by

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Orac, Peter Moran, et al.

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;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
BTW, no MLM products cure or heal cancer, no matter how much Spammin'

Dave

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wants you to believe.

Well , shoot that's gonna come as a surprise to people I know who have

cured

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themselves of cancer !!. LOL
Do you get your obsession with the anus from constantly looking at

yourself

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in the mirror ?

Sounds like Bew has a serious case of projection. Remember, Bew, the Anus in
your mirror is far closer than it appears!

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Subject: Child cancer rates 'increasing'
From: "Anth" [email hidden]
Date: 4/14/04 12:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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I find this comment in the article curious:

Diet, radioactivity or exposure to chemical pollutants have been suggested as
possible factors in the development of children's cancer, but as yet there is
little evidence to support the theories.

Why is it we ignore diet, but use radiation and exposure to deadly, carcingenic
chemicals as a treatment and then claim better success than some years ago?

Something is wrong with this picture.

DrC PhD

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Anth

How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for cancer
research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is increasing
and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by traditional
Western medicine.

Really? Tell that to many patients who've been cured of breast and colon
cancer through a combination of surgery, chemotherapy, and/or radiation.

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Cutting out an infected organ is not a cure, its mutilation. Chemotherapy
and radiation is another form of mutilation and unless lifestyle changes are
made by the patient, cancer will eventually return. Alternative ways can and
dso cure cancer by removing the cause and creating an environment in the
body in which cancer can not live.

Do you have any objective evidence to support this assertion, spammin'
Dave?

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Cancer can not survive in an oxygenated
environment.

[censored], plain and simple. Cancer cells do just fine in an oxygenated
environment.

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|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"

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>> Anth
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>How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for

cancer

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>research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is

increasing

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>and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by

traditional

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>Western medicine.

That's what happens when you bury your head in the sand while pounding

spam up

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your ass, Spammin' Dave. Cancer is quite frequently cured as

documented

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by

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Orac, Peter Moran, et al.

Really? Anybody who might believe you (?) should simply go to
http://www.google.ca/
and search on "cancer cure".

Like this one?

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/10/walker.htm

Spammin Dave, you sure do know how to remain clueless.

Purely anecdotal, of course, but my friend Tom is cured of colon cancer.

He

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had it seven years ago, had surgery followed by chemo, and is doing just
great.

Thus, your original claim is wrong.

Purely anecdotal, highly improbable so you continue to say anything that is
convenient.

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Anth

How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for cancer
research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is increasing
and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by traditional
Western medicine.

That's because you're a complete cretin, Spammin' Dave.

Tell all the zillions of people who had their skin cancers removed
(and never had a recurrence, which is most of them) that they weren't
cured.

All the kids with childhood leukemias who were cured by chemo, not by
some spamming jerkoff peddling ginseng, likewise.

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Cutting out an infected organ is not a cure, its mutilation.

It's a cure if you can get along fine without it. How do you feel
about appendectomies?

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Chemotherapy and radiation is another form of mutilation and unless
lifestyle changes are made by the patient, cancer will eventually
return.

Sez you. On zero evidence.

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Alternative ways can and dso cure cancer

Sure they do.

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Like chemotherapy, organic germanium kills cancer cells.
Unlike chemotherapy, organic germanium doesn't kill healthy cells and
poision the body.

Germanium can and does poison the body.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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> >How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for

cancer

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> >research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is
increasing
> >and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by

traditional

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> >Western medicine.
>
> That's what happens when you bury your head in the sand while

pounding

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spam up
> your ass, Spammin' Dave. Cancer is quite frequently cured as

documented

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by
> Orac, Peter Moran, et al.

Really? Anybody who might believe you (?) should simply go to
http://www.google.ca/
and search on "cancer cure".

Like this one?

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/10/walker.htm

Spammin Dave, you sure do know how to remain clueless.

Purely anecdotal, of course, but my friend Tom is cured of colon cancer.

He

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had it seven years ago, had surgery followed by chemo, and is doing just
great.

Thus, your original claim is wrong.

Purely anecdotal, highly improbable so you continue to say anything that

is

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convenient.

You seem to thrive on anecdotal information, so I stooped to your level so
you could possibly get the point. Sad that you choose to remain clueless.

BTW, I know of another cancer cure. Rebut this, ginseng breath:

Lance Armstrong.

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Subject: Re: Child cancer rates 'increasing'
From: Orac [email hidden]
Date: 4/14/04 9:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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Really? Tell that to many patients who've been cured of breast and colon
cancer through a combination of surgery, chemotherapy, and/or radiation.

Well, modern quackery must be able to quote some success or the victims would
stop coming in.

You can shoot a human with a 9mm multiple times at close range and...damn some
will survive. Same with your cancer treatments.

DrC PhD

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Subject: Re: Child cancer rates 'increasing'
From: Orac [email hidden]
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Really? Tell that to many patients who've been cured of breast and colon
cancer through a combination of surgery, chemotherapy, and/or radiation.

Well, modern quackery must be able to quote some success or the victims would
stop coming in.

You can shoot a human with a 9mm multiple times at close range and...damn some
will survive. Same with your cancer treatments.

So you're contradicting yourself and admitting that conventional
therapies do cure some cancer patients?

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|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"

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How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for cancer
research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is

increasing

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and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by traditional
Western medicine.

Really? Tell that to many patients who've been cured of breast and colon
cancer through a combination of surgery, chemotherapy, and/or radiation.

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Cutting out an infected organ is not a cure, its mutilation.

Chemotherapy

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and radiation is another form of mutilation and unless lifestyle changes

are

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made by the patient, cancer will eventually return. Alternative ways can

and

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dso cure cancer by removing the cause and creating an environment in the
body in which cancer can not live.

Do you have any objective evidence to support this assertion, spammin'
Dave?

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Cancer can not survive in an oxygenated
environment.

[censored], plain and simple. Cancer cells do just fine in an oxygenated
environment.

You don't know whereof you speak. If you actually believe that to be so,
show us any proof that cancer can live in an oxygenated environment.

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>Anth

How would you rationalize the raising of trillions of dollars for cancer
research over the past 90 years, to stamp out cancer? Cancer is

increasing

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and I have never heard of an incidence of curing cancer by traditional
Western medicine.

Really? Tell that to many patients who've been cured of breast and colon
cancer through a combination of surgery, chemotherapy, and/or radiation.

Quoted message said:

Cutting out an infected organ is not a cure, its mutilation.

Chemotherapy

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Quoted message said:

and radiation is another form of mutilation and unless lifestyle changes

are

Quoted message said:

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made by the patient, cancer will eventually return. Alternative ways can

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

dso cure cancer by removing the cause and creating an environment in the
body in which cancer can not live.

Do you have any objective evidence to support this assertion, spammin'
Dave?

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Cancer can not survive in an oxygenated
environment.

[censored], plain and simple. Cancer cells do just fine in an oxygenated
environment.

You don't know whereof you speak. If you actually believe that to be so,
show us any proof that cancer can live in an oxygenated environment.

I would submit that the opposite is true, that cancer, which are cells
similiar to other human cells, cannot exist in a non-oxygenated
environment. Not a cure, unfortunately.

j.

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Cancer can not survive in an oxygenated
environment.

[censored], plain and simple. Cancer cells do just fine in an oxygenated
environment.

You don't know whereof you speak. If you actually believe that to be so,
show us any proof that cancer can live in an oxygenated environment.

Can you really be so ignorant? I guess you can. In any case, for one
thing, cancer cells seem to go well out of their way to secret
proangiogenic factors (factors that induce the growth of blood vessels
into the tumor mass). If they could live in a nonoxygenated environment,
they certainly wouldn't need to do that, and if oxygen harmed them
secreting such factors would be most counterproductive. In fact, such
behavior, coupled with the observation that tumors that have not
developed the ability to secrete proangiogenic factors do not grow
larger in radius than the diffusion distance of oxygen, tells us that
not only do tumors grow in oxygenated evironments, but that they NEED
oxygen to grow. Another thing that tells us this is that often tumor
masses are necrotic (dead) in the center, where their blood supply is
tenuous and measurements of oxygen tension demonstrate markedly low
levels of oxygen, and that actively growing tumor cells are only found
on the periphery of the tumor, where the blood supply is good and oxygen
tension is high.

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|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"