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  1. Bob Terwilliger said:

    The problem with cooking it way down at this point is that biig has already
    added salt. For future reference, you shouldn't add salt to something which
    will be drastically reduced.


    Not bad advice in general, but for chicken stock you need to have at
    least a little salt from the beginning because it enhances drawing out
    all the juices and good things from the chicken into the liquid. Just
    keep in mind what the eventual volume of stock will be and judge the
    salt accordingly.

    Similarly, a small bit of an acid like white wine or sherry or (a
    smaller amount of) lemon juice will enhance the ultimate gelatinous
    quality of the stock. -aem

  2. jmcquown said:
    kilikini said:

    "Brick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    On 17-Oct-2005, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > biig wrote:
    >> What is everyone's no fail recipe for a good chicken stock? I
    >> have two leg quarters simmering with onion, carrot, celery and a
    >> "bit" of salt. What else would you all put in. This will be used
    >> for a chicken and wild rice soup found on CD Kitchen website.
    >> This will be my first attempt at making stock from scratch.
    >> Thanks....Sharon
    >
    > Garlic! A couple of bay leaves. Peppercorns or ground black
    > pepper. Dried thyme, sage, maybe some marjoram.
    >
    > Don't be afraid to cook it way down, add water as needed. Then
    > chill it and scoop off the fat that settles on the top of the pot.
    > If the chilled stock sets like jelly, you did well 🙂 It will
    > liquify upon reheating.
    >
    > Jill

    Thanks for that comment about setting like jelly Jill. I only
    recently observed a quart of pork stock doing that. I've made
    countless quarts of chicken stock in the last few years, but never
    saw that happen before or even read a comment on it. Fortunately, I
    did not throw the pork stock out as it did not discolor or take on
    any strange odor. I'm guessing from your comments that I simply have
    not been reducing my chicken stock enough.

    Brick, that's correct. It's *supposed* to gel. If not, you're using
    too much water.

    kili

    Or just not cooking it down slowly and long enough. Good stock takes time.

    Jill

    Thank you both for your comments. For openers, my stock takes all day to
    simmer. For chicken stock for instance, I simmer it until every last bit of
    meat separates from the bones. Neck bones desinegrate to tiny little bit parts.
    I'd estimate I never can a batch until it has simmered at least six hours and
    more likely eight. I pressure can all of my stock at 15 lbs pressure for about
    20 minutes. I've never had any spoilage. The result has always been satisfactory
    and I usually thin it some in use. One of my favorite uses is to boil potatoes
    in stock for mashed potatoes. I mash the potatoes by running them through a
    ricer instead of the more normal wooden or grid type potato masher. I like the
    texture better. I use butter to finish, but never have any cream on hand. More's
    the pity.
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  3. "Brick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    jmcquown said:
    kilikini said:

    "Brick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > On 17-Oct-2005, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> biig wrote:
    >>> What is everyone's no fail recipe for a good chicken stock? I
    >>> have two leg quarters simmering with onion, carrot, celery and a
    >>> "bit" of salt. What else would you all put in. This will be used
    >>> for a chicken and wild rice soup found on CD Kitchen website.
    >>> This will be my first attempt at making stock from scratch.
    >>> Thanks....Sharon
    >>
    >> Garlic! A couple of bay leaves. Peppercorns or ground black
    >> pepper. Dried thyme, sage, maybe some marjoram.
    >>
    >> Don't be afraid to cook it way down, add water as needed. Then
    >> chill it and scoop off the fat that settles on the top of the pot.
    >> If the chilled stock sets like jelly, you did well 🙂 It will
    >> liquify upon reheating.
    >>
    >> Jill
    >
    > Thanks for that comment about setting like jelly Jill. I only
    > recently observed a quart of pork stock doing that. I've made
    > countless quarts of chicken stock in the last few years, but never
    > saw that happen before or even read a comment on it. Fortunately, I
    > did not throw the pork stock out as it did not discolor or take on
    > any strange odor. I'm guessing from your comments that I simply have
    > not been reducing my chicken stock enough.
    >

    Brick, that's correct. It's *supposed* to gel. If not, you're using
    too much water.

    kili

    Or just not cooking it down slowly and long enough. Good stock takes


    time.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Jill

    Thank you both for your comments. For openers, my stock takes all day to
    simmer. For chicken stock for instance, I simmer it until every last bit


    of

    Quoted message said:

    meat separates from the bones. Neck bones desinegrate to tiny little bit


    parts.

    Quoted message said:

    I'd estimate I never can a batch until it has simmered at least six hours


    and

    Quoted message said:

    more likely eight. I pressure can all of my stock at 15 lbs pressure for


    about

    Quoted message said:

    20 minutes. I've never had any spoilage. The result has always been


    satisfactory

    Quoted message said:

    and I usually thin it some in use. One of my favorite uses is to boil


    potatoes

    Quoted message said:

    in stock for mashed potatoes. I mash the potatoes by running them through


    a

    Quoted message said:

    ricer instead of the more normal wooden or grid type potato masher. I like


    the

    Quoted message said:

    texture better. I use butter to finish, but never have any cream on hand.


    More's

    Quoted message said:

    the pity.
    --
    The Brick said that (Don't bother to agree with me, I have already changed


    my mind.)

    Quoted message said:

    Brick, I even use mine (when I have enough) to steam veggies with. TFM and
    I roast chicken a LOT, so as long as I don't send him to work with the
    bones, I usually have plenty of stock on hand. I use it in potatoes, rice,
    veggies, stir fry, soup, there are so many uses to count. It's great stuff.
    Enjoy!

    kili

  4. kilikini said:

    "Brick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    jmcquown said:

    kilikini wrote:
    > "Brick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >>
    >> On 17-Oct-2005, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> biig wrote:
    >>>> What is everyone's no fail recipe for a good chicken stock? I
    >>>> have two leg quarters simmering with onion, carrot, celery and a
    >>>> "bit" of salt. What else would you all put in. This will be used
    >>>> for a chicken and wild rice soup found on CD Kitchen website.
    >>>> This will be my first attempt at making stock from scratch.
    >>>> Thanks....Sharon
    >>>
    >>> Garlic! A couple of bay leaves. Peppercorns or ground black
    >>> pepper. Dried thyme, sage, maybe some marjoram.
    >>>
    >>> Don't be afraid to cook it way down, add water as needed. Then
    >>> chill it and scoop off the fat that settles on the top of the pot.
    >>> If the chilled stock sets like jelly, you did well 🙂 It will
    >>> liquify upon reheating.
    >>>
    >>> Jill
    >>
    >> Thanks for that comment about setting like jelly Jill. I only
    >> recently observed a quart of pork stock doing that. I've made
    >> countless quarts of chicken stock in the last few years, but never
    >> saw that happen before or even read a comment on it. Fortunately, I
    >> did not throw the pork stock out as it did not discolor or take on
    >> any strange odor. I'm guessing from your comments that I simply have
    >> not been reducing my chicken stock enough.
    >>
    >
    > Brick, that's correct. It's *supposed* to gel. If not, you're using
    > too much water.
    >
    > kili

    Or just not cooking it down slowly and long enough. Good stock takes


    time.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Jill


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    One of my favorite uses is to boil
    potatoes
    in stock for mashed potatoes. I mash the potatoes by running them through


    a

    Quoted message said:

    ricer instead of the more normal wooden or grid type potato masher. I like


    the

    Quoted message said:

    texture better. I use butter to finish, but never have any cream on hand.


    More's

    Quoted message said:

    the pity.
    --
    The Brick said that (Don't bother to agree with me, I have already changed


    my mind.)

    Quoted message said:

    Brick, I even use mine (when I have enough) to steam veggies with. TFM and
    I roast chicken a LOT, so as long as I don't send him to work with the
    bones, I usually have plenty of stock on hand. I use it in potatoes, rice,
    veggies, stir fry, soup, there are so many uses to count. It's great stuff.
    Enjoy!

    kili

    All good points Kili. I do the same. Even pasta quite often.
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    kilikini said:

    "Brick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    jmcquown said:

    kilikini wrote:

    >"Brick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >>On 17-Oct-2005, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>biig wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> What is everyone's no fail recipe for a good chicken stock? I
    >>>>have two leg quarters simmering with onion, carrot, celery and a
    >>>>"bit" of salt. What else would you all put in. This will be used
    >>>>for a chicken and wild rice soup found on CD Kitchen website.
    >>>>This will be my first attempt at making stock from scratch.
    >>>>Thanks....Sharon
    >>>
    >>>Garlic! A couple of bay leaves. Peppercorns or ground black
    >>>pepper. Dried thyme, sage, maybe some marjoram.
    >>>
    >>>Don't be afraid to cook it way down, add water as needed. Then
    >>>chill it and scoop off the fat that settles on the top of the pot.
    >>>If the chilled stock sets like jelly, you did well 🙂 It will
    >>>liquify upon reheating.
    >>>
    >>>Jill
    >>
    >>Thanks for that comment about setting like jelly Jill. I only
    >>recently observed a quart of pork stock doing that. I've made
    >>countless quarts of chicken stock in the last few years, but never
    >>saw that happen before or even read a comment on it. Fortunately, I
    >>did not throw the pork stock out as it did not discolor or take on
    >>any strange odor. I'm guessing from your comments that I simply have
    >>not been reducing my chicken stock enough.
    >>
    >
    >Brick, that's correct. It's *supposed* to gel. If not, you're using
    >too much water.
    >
    >kili

    Or just not cooking it down slowly and long enough. Good stock takes

    time.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Jill

    Thank you both for your comments. For openers, my stock takes all day to
    simmer. For chicken stock for instance, I simmer it until every last bit

    of

    Quoted message said:

    meat separates from the bones. Neck bones desinegrate to tiny little bit

    parts.

    Quoted message said:

    I'd estimate I never can a batch until it has simmered at least six hours

    and

    Quoted message said:

    more likely eight. I pressure can all of my stock at 15 lbs pressure for

    about

    Quoted message said:

    20 minutes. I've never had any spoilage. The result has always been

    satisfactory

    Quoted message said:

    and I usually thin it some in use. One of my favorite uses is to boil

    potatoes

    Quoted message said:

    in stock for mashed potatoes. I mash the potatoes by running them through

    a

    Quoted message said:

    ricer instead of the more normal wooden or grid type potato masher. I like

    the

    Quoted message said:

    texture better. I use butter to finish, but never have any cream on hand.

    More's

    Quoted message said:

    the pity.
    --
    The Brick said that (Don't bother to agree with me, I have already changed

    my mind.)

    Brick, I even use mine (when I have enough) to steam veggies with. TFM and
    I roast chicken a LOT, so as long as I don't send him to work with the
    bones, I usually have plenty of stock on hand. I use it in potatoes, rice,
    veggies, stir fry, soup, there are so many uses to count. It's great stuff.
    Enjoy!

    IMO cooking with stock just adds so much more flavour to everything.
    Brick mentioned using stock for mashed potatoes and that is certainly
    good. It works well for mashing squash or rutabeggers. I can't even
    imagine rice cooked in just plain water anymore because the stock just
    adds such a nice touch. If you cook the rice you are intending to turn
    into fried rice in either a littler beef or ham broth the results are so
    nice! Homemade stock is just so cheap to make too but for those who
    don't cook a lot or don't can or don't have extra freezer space someone
    mentioned the Swanson brand of stocks wasn't bad. The nice thing about
    stock is it adds a lot of flavour without adding a lot of calories 🙂

    Quoted message said:


    kili

  6. "~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Brick, I even use mine (when I have enough) to steam veggies with. TFM and
    I roast chicken a LOT, so as long as I don't send him to work with the
    bones, I usually have plenty of stock on hand. I use it in potatoes, rice,
    veggies, stir fry, soup, there are so many uses to count. It's great stuff.
    Enjoy!

    IMO cooking with stock just adds so much more flavour to everything. Brick
    mentioned using stock for mashed potatoes and that is certainly good. It
    works well for mashing squash or rutabeggers. I can't even imagine rice
    cooked in just plain water anymore because the stock just adds such a nice
    touch.

    I think that depends on the rice. Many types of rice suffer from the addition of
    stock as it will mask the delicate flavor(s).

    Dimitri

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    Dimitri said:

    "~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Brick, I even use mine (when I have enough) to steam veggies with. TFM and
    I roast chicken a LOT, so as long as I don't send him to work with the
    bones, I usually have plenty of stock on hand. I use it in potatoes, rice,
    veggies, stir fry, soup, there are so many uses to count. It's great stuff.
    Enjoy!

    IMO cooking with stock just adds so much more flavour to everything. Brick
    mentioned using stock for mashed potatoes and that is certainly good. It
    works well for mashing squash or rutabeggers. I can't even imagine rice
    cooked in just plain water anymore because the stock just adds such a nice
    touch.

    I think that depends on the rice. Many types of rice suffer from the addition of
    stock as it will mask the delicate flavor(s).

    Oh right you are. I was referring to regular long grain white rice but
    the stock works well for wild rice. Sorry to not clarify.

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    kilikini wrote:
    <snip> sorry to piggyback Kili but I can't find Bricks OP

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'd estimate I never can a batch until it has simmered at least six hours

    and

    Quoted message said:

    more likely eight. I pressure can all of my stock at 15 lbs pressure for

    about

    Quoted message said:

    20 minutes. I've never had any spoilage. The result has always been

    satisfactory

    Brick the USDA standards that the BBB is based on indicate 20 min for
    500 ml & 25 for 1 L jars at 10 psi unless you are abouve 1,000 ft sea
    level. I do it at the 10 psi without a problem. My turkey stock has
    been going for awhile now likely coming up to about 5 hours I'm just
    getting the jars ready now.

  9. jmcquown wrote on 17 Oct 2005 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:
    biig said:

    What is everyone's no fail recipe for a good chicken stock? I
    have
    two leg quarters simmering with onion, carrot, celery and a "bit" of
    salt. What else would you all put in. This will be used for a
    chicken and wild rice soup found on CD Kitchen website. This will
    be my first attempt at making stock from scratch. Thanks....Sharon

    Garlic! A couple of bay leaves. Peppercorns or ground black pepper.
    Dried thyme, sage, maybe some marjoram.

    Don't be afraid to cook it way down, add water as needed. Then chill
    it and scoop off the fat that settles on the top of the pot. If the
    chilled stock sets like jelly, you did well 🙂 It will liquify upon
    reheating.

    Jill

    I always add parsnip to my chicken stock. I hate parsnips normally, but
    chicken stock needs parsnip for some reason. I don't add salt to the stock.
    I add peppercorns, a bayleaf or 3, several cloves of garlic, tarragon and
    if I'm in the mood a lemon grass stalk. A whole forked lemon added can be a
    nice change of pace, so can some dill or star anise. I especially make sure
    that celery leafy ends are used in all my chicken stocks, thoses leaves are
    so flavourful. I put the herbs and spices in a tea ball as to be easier to
    find and remove their spent carcasses. Plus I make stock in a pasta pot
    equiped with a sieve insert...makes discarding the used up veggies and
    bones easier.

    --
    The eyes are the mirrors....
    But the ears...Ah the ears.
    The ears keep the hat up.

  10. In article said:

    What is everyone's no fail recipe for a good chicken stock? I have
    two leg quarters simmering with onion, carrot, celery and a "bit" of
    salt. What else would you all put in. This will be used for a chicken
    and wild rice soup found on CD Kitchen website. This will be my first
    attempt at making stock from scratch. Thanks....Sharon

    I made a vat of soup yesterday. A whole fryer, cut up, and two turkey
    thighs. I bought a parsnip at the Saturday market for the soup. You're
    missing peppercorns and a bay leaf, IMO. Sometimes I put in a handful
    of dried dillweed. I almost always use a jarred chicken base, too.
    It's the way it is. cooked the meat until tender, removed it from the
    bones and threw the bones back in the vat to cook some more. When it
    was done, I strained the broth and have it chilling in the fridge as we
    speak. Later tonight (or maybe tomorrow) I'll remove the solidified fat
    and package the broth in 2-cup portions and freeze for future use. IMO,
    unless you've got a free-range chicken of some age, the addition of a
    commercial base is a must. Most supermarket-bought frying chickens just
    ain't got it in 'em for a good broth. YMMV.
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com

  11. biig said:

    What is everyone's no fail recipe for a good chicken stock? I have

    two leg quarters simmering with onion, carrot, celery and a "bit" of
    salt. What else would you all put in. This will be used for a
    chicken
    and wild rice soup found on CD Kitchen website. This will be my first

    attempt at making stock from scratch. Thanks....Sharon

    Along with what you have already mentioned, if you can get a veal
    knuckle or shin to throw in with your chicken carcass or pieces along
    with some leek, cloves, thyme & bay leaf you will be very impressed.
    Adding veal to the chicken stock ( or just about anything else)
    dramatically improves the flavour.

    I never boil raw fowl but prefer to use roasted for stock. Not only is
    it a better flavour IMO, but a whole raw bird takes up so much room in
    even a large stock pot that one ends up with relatively little stock.

    I usually save up several carcasses in the freezer so i can make an
    extra strong stock. And around the winter holidays when there is an
    overabundance of turkeys and hams i often make the stock and boil it
    down to a very thick gel and keep it tightly covered in the refrigerator
    for use later by the tbs.
    ---
    JL:

  12. Brick said:

    One of my favorite uses is to boil potatoes in stock for mashed potatoes.

    Got an ironic chuckle out of this, because in the "Vegetarian Epicure"
    series, potato-peel broth is one of the basic pantry items. After you boil
    the potatoes, do you keep the liquid?

    Come to think of it, there are several other items which can be boiled in
    stock and in the process add a lot of flavor to the liquid: Wheat berries
    and barley are two prime examples. I make a barley pilaf by sautéing barley
    in olive oil with onions, then adding a lot of chicken stock and simering
    until the barley is cooked. I drain off the stock and use it for other
    purposes, but it's definitely enhanced by having been used to cook the
    barley.

    Bob

  13. biig said:

    What is everyone's no fail recipe for a good chicken stock? I have
    two leg quarters simmering with onion, carrot, celery and a "bit" of
    salt. What else would you all put in. This will be used for a chicken
    and wild rice soup found on CD Kitchen website. This will be my first
    attempt at making stock from scratch. Thanks....Sharon

    I use an 8-qt stock pot, and have mostly started by roasting the bones
    of a chicken that we have eaten. Leek, halved onion, carrot, celery
    stalks, maybe a parsnip. A little tomato paste if you want it brown.
    peppercorns.

    Cover all with cold water. NO salt, you can salt it when you are using
    the stock. Bring to a slow simmer. skim scum occasionally. let simmer
    for maybe two hours. Strain through cheesecloth. Freeze anything I
    don't need right away in zipper bags.

    The last two batches I have used a 5-lb bag of peeled chicken feet
    instead of the carcass. This came out very nice, thickened with
    gelatin from the feet

    Pheasant and duck carcasses are good as well. I have made risotto from
    pheasant stock that was very well received.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes J 36 Gjo/a

    Kansas--working to become a science-free zone

  14. biig said:

    What is everyone's no fail recipe for a good chicken stock? I have
    two leg quarters simmering with onion, carrot, celery and a "bit" of
    salt. What else would you all put in. This will be used for a chicken
    and wild rice soup found on CD Kitchen website. This will be my first
    attempt at making stock from scratch. Thanks....Sharon

    That's not much chicken to flavour the stock.

    Usually when I make stock, I end up with about 4 litres of stock
    (enough for two soup meals). I start with about 3-4 raw (bought)
    carcases (or I use the leftover bones from several roasts) and add 3-4
    wings. If you have freezer space, save the bones from chicken till you
    have enough, then use all at once.

    There are two main methods of making stock: brown stock, which
    requires roasting the bones and veges at high heat first, so that
    everything browns, then transferring to a stock pot; or white stock,
    which begins and ends life in the stock pot. Both are good methods but
    sometimes you want one over the other.

    Whichever method you go for, I usually add the following veges:
    1 inch green ginger, sliced
    4 whole peppercorns
    1 carrot, roughly sliced
    1 large onion, quartered
    1 stalk celery and also celery leaves
    parsley
    Water to cover.

    You could add other things if you wish, but I wouldn't add potato as
    that would make the stock cloudy. I never add salt to stock. I add
    salt when I USE the stock.

    Put everything in stockpot. Bring to boil. Lower heat and simmer
    gently for about 1 to 1.5 hours. Some people simmer it for hours.
    Generally, I feel you've extracted the flavour after that time, unless
    you're using a whole tough old bird, which I've done sometimes and it
    does give a great stock. Occasionally skim the scum off the stock.
    Drain through a sieve, discard all bones, meat and veges. Put cooled
    stock in fridge so fat can set. Remove fat.

    If you then wish, you can reduce the stock further to make a more
    concentrated stock, or further still to make a glaze. A cool glaze
    will be a very thick jelly.

    It's not rocket science, but you should get a good stock using this
    method. If you want a brown stock, first place all ingredients in a
    roasting dish, roast at near maximum temperature for about 30 mins,
    stirring occasionally. Transfer everything to a stockpot. Add water to
    roasting pan and stir up the brown bits. Add to stockpot. Add enough
    water to cover and proceed from there as for white stock.

    Kathy

  15. Rodney said:

    I use an 8-qt stock pot, and have mostly started by roasting the bones
    of a chicken that we have eaten. Leek, halved onion, carrot, celery
    stalks, maybe a parsnip. A little tomato paste if you want it brown.
    peppercorns.

    LEEK? Are you made of money? :-)

    Bob

  16. Exactly correct. (USDA Home and Garden Bulletin # 106, updated in 1972)
    However the only guage weight I have for my pressure canner
    is 15 lbs. It doesn't seem to hurt anything.
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  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:
    Rodney said:

    I use an 8-qt stock pot, and have mostly started by roasting the bones
    of a chicken that we have eaten. Leek, halved onion, carrot, celery
    stalks, maybe a parsnip. A little tomato paste if you want it brown.
    peppercorns.

    LEEK? Are you made of money? :-)

    Bob

    Leek is fine if you are going to recover it. ;-d

    But, I generally save the leeks until _after_ the stock is made and add
    it to the soup. <lol>
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  18. On 18 Oct 2005 00:24:02 -0500, "Bob Terwilliger"

    virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:
    Rodney said:

    I use an 8-qt stock pot, and have mostly started by roasting the bones
    of a chicken that we have eaten. Leek, halved onion, carrot, celery
    stalks, maybe a parsnip. A little tomato paste if you want it brown.
    peppercorns.

    LEEK? Are you made of money? :-)

    No, retired

    Rodney Myrvaagnes J 36 Gjo/a

    Kansas--working to become a science-free zone

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    On 18 Oct 2005 00:24:02 -0500, "Bob Terwilliger"

    virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:
    Rodney said:

    I use an 8-qt stock pot, and have mostly started by roasting the bones
    of a chicken that we have eaten. Leek, halved onion, carrot, celery
    stalks, maybe a parsnip. A little tomato paste if you want it brown.
    peppercorns.

    LEEK? Are you made of money? :-)

    No, retired

    Rodney Myrvaagnes J 36 Gjo/a

    Someone posted that they were able to buy leeks separately. I found some
    the other day that i could buy that way. One small leek $1.20. The
    potatoes didn't look good enough to buy, so no potato-leek soup. So I'm
    left with the leek -- now what to do with it?
    I have on hand: 1 portabella, 1 leek, American turnip, Korean Turnip,
    burdock, serrano and jalapeno peppers, watercress, onions, cauliflower,
    poblanos (3 large) curry leaves, schallots, beets, limes, garlic, Italian
    Parsley, carrots, celery.
    Where will my leek fit in!!!
    Dee Dee

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