Chelation Question...

No substance will bind "all" the metals in a person's body. I do not believe
aluminum can be chelated as yet.

There are many different chelating substances. Some amino acids will "bind"
with certain metals .

EDTA is a synthetic amino acid compound that can remove heavy metals quite
well.

Remember: Calcium and magnesium are metals too and can be chelated from your
system just as well by these same compounds.

"Katt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just been reading this:
http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/48058.html

Was struck by the following (p.5):
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"Chelation is where we use a natural or, in extreme cases, medical substance
that binds all the toxins and metals present in a child's body so they can
be excreted."
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Just wondering: can anyone here tell me what 'natural or ... medical
substance' the speaker was refering to...? What sort of things will 'bind
all the toxins and metals present in a ... body so they can be excreted'...?

Thanks!

Katt.

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Quoted message said:

No substance will bind "all" the metals in a person's body. I do not
believe aluminum can be chelated as yet.

I think it can by malic acid (not sure though).

Katt said:

Just been reading this:
http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/48058.html

Was struck by the following (p.5):
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"Chelation is where we use a natural or, in extreme cases, medical substance
that binds all the toxins and metals present in a child's body so they can
be excreted."
-----

Just wondering: can anyone here tell me what 'natural or ... medical
substance' the speaker was refering to...? What sort of things will 'bind
all the toxins and metals present in a ... body so they can be excreted'...?

Ex:
According to many, Chlorella can be used to get mercury out of the
system. Selenium can also be used for that purpose. Fiber binds to many
toxins, thus gets them out of the body. Papers on Mercury Toxicity and
Systemic Elimination Agents:
http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination2.htm

--
Dawid Michalczyk
http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

Fiber is not digested in humans and cannot remove anything from the
bloodstream or tissues. It does, however, bind with certain nutrients in the
digestive system and keeps more from enetering the body systems.

"Dawid Michalczyk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Katt said:

Just been reading this:
http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/48058.html

Was struck by the following (p.5):
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"Chelation is where we use a natural or, in extreme cases, medical

substance

Quoted message said:

that binds all the toxins and metals present in a child's body so they can
be excreted."
-----

Just wondering: can anyone here tell me what 'natural or ... medical
substance' the speaker was refering to...? What sort of things will 'bind
all the toxins and metals present in a ... body so they can be

excreted'...?

Ex:
According to many, Chlorella can be used to get mercury out of the
system. Selenium can also be used for that purpose. Fiber binds to many
toxins, thus gets them out of the body. Papers on Mercury Toxicity and
Systemic Elimination Agents:
http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination2.htm

--
Dawid Michalczyk
http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

"Katt" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Quoted message said:

Just been reading this:
http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/48058.html

Was struck by the following (p.5):
-----
"Chelation is where we use a natural or, in extreme cases, medical
substance that binds all the toxins and metals present in a child's body
so they can be excreted."
-----

Just wondering: can anyone here tell me what 'natural or ... medical
substance' the speaker was refering to...? What sort of things will 'bind
all the toxins and metals present in a ... body so they can be
excreted'...?

Thanks!

Katt.

If there would be something that could:
'bind all the toxins and metals present in a ... body so they can be
excreted'
your child would instantly drop dead. metals are integral parts of enzymes.

In article <[email hidden]>, Katt <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Just been reading this:
http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/48058.html

Was struck by the following (p.5):
-----
"Chelation is where we use a natural or, in extreme cases, medical substance
that binds all the toxins and metals present in a child's body so they can
be excreted."
-----

Just wondering: can anyone here tell me what 'natural or ... medical
substance' the speaker was refering to...? What sort of things will 'bind
all the toxins and metals present in a ... body so they can be excreted'...?

Thanks!

Katt.

The bodys natural metal chalation pathway is via metallothionein. You
need zinc to make it happen. If you look at the periodic table of the
elements you'll find that zinc, mercury and cadmium have the same
valence number. See http://HRIPTC.org/metal_metabolism.html.

Rocco

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Hey Rocco said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Katt <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Just been reading this:
http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/48058.html

Was struck by the following (p.5):
-----
"Chelation is where we use a natural or, in extreme cases, medical
substance
that binds all the toxins and metals present in a child's body so they can
be excreted."
-----

Just wondering: can anyone here tell me what 'natural or ... medical
substance' the speaker was refering to...? What sort of things will 'bind
all the toxins and metals present in a ... body so they can be
excreted'...?

Artificial substance include EDTA, DMPS and DMSA. The last two are
effective for mercury.

Natural substances include various components of the Nrf2 complex like
glutathione, depending on the toxic metal that needs chelating.

Chelation aside, as for toxins there are a lot of them in the body at
any given time. Ethanol, for instance, gets run through the aldehyde
dehydrogenase complex. A deficiency in, say, molybdenum would make
alcohol consumption more toxic. There are plenty of other
disposal/recycling pathways for other toxic intermediate products like
homocysteine and formaldehyde. It all depends on what your body can't
handle.

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Hey Rocco said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Katt
<[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Just wondering: can anyone here tell me what 'natural or ...
medical
substance' the speaker was refering to...? What sort of things will
'bind
all the toxins and metals present in a ... body so they can be
excreted'...?

Artificial substance include EDTA, DMPS and DMSA. The last two are
effective for mercury.

If you are considering to do chelation: watch out, it can be dangerous
if you and/or your doctor do not know what you are doing. More info:

http://www.noamalgam.com/
and related:
http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/?yguid=197565016
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/adult-metal-chelation/?yguid=197565016
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/?yguid=197565016

another approach:
http://healthydetox.org/
and related:
http://www.mastermindresearch.com/btm/modules/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=gary:msgmercuryiodine
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BioRaynaturaldetox/?yguid=197565016

Niels

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Niels Geurts nwj_geurts@GEEN_SPAM_hotmail.com said:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Hey Rocco said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Katt
<[email hidden]>
wrote:
> Just wondering: can anyone here tell me what 'natural or ...
> medical
> substance' the speaker was refering to...? What sort of things will
> 'bind
> all the toxins and metals present in a ... body so they can be
> excreted'...?
>

Artificial substance include EDTA, DMPS and DMSA. The last two are
effective for mercury.

If you are considering to do chelation: watch out, it can be dangerous
if you and/or your doctor do not know what you are doing. More info:

And don't be so sure about what does, or does not, work on mercury:

J Toxicol Clin Toxicol. 1996;34(4):453-60.

Clinical course of severe poisoning with thiomersal.

Pfab R, Muckter H, Roider G, Zilker T.

Walther-Straub-Institut fur Pharmakologie und Toxikologie,
Universitat Munchen, Germany.

CASE REPORT: A 44-year-old man ingested 83 mg/kg Thiomersal. He
developed gastritis, renal tubular failure, dermatitis, gingivitis,
delirium, coma, polyneuropathy and respiratory failure. Treatment
was symptomatic plus gastric lavage and the oral chelating agents
dimercaptopropane sulfonate and dimercaptosuccinic acid. The patient
recovered completely. Maximum mercury concentrations were blood 14
mg/L, serum 1.7 mg/L, urine 10.7 mg/L, and cerebrospinal fluid 0.025
mg/L. Mercury concentration in blood declined with two velocities:
first with half-time 2.2 days, then with half-time 40.5 days. The
decline of mercury concentration in blood, urinary mercury
excretion, and renal mercury clearance were not substantially
influenced by chelation therapy.

Publication Types:

* Case Reports

PMID: 8699562 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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