J. David Anderson said:Doug Freyburger said:J. David Anderson wrote:
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Any allergies would have been well known to him.
Quoted message said:False. This is an extremely easy trap to fall into. {I've eaten
cheese all my life therefore it couldn't possibly be a problem
for me.} Nope, it doesn't work that way. If you've eaten
cheese all your life it became a part of the background so
long ago whatever effects it gives you are your "normal"
and thus invisible until you take away that cheese for a while.
Ok, granted, BUT he is apparently experiencing a quite new reaction, not
one that he was familiar with prior to only a week or two of low carb
eating. I doubt that this case is about an "unawareness" of a long term
negative reaction to cheese.
Onset of symptoms is much easier to notice than stable
symptoms. He'd tried a half dozen times before. What he
saw was the onset of symptoms several times.
It is easier to notice *onset* of anxiety than it is to notice
*existance* of anxiety that's been present as far back as
you can remember. One's a change for the worse, the
other your normal.
The strange thing is it's hard to notice things getting
better.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:In my case it was wheat. I'd never gone a week wheat
free in my life before Induction. How could wheat possibly
be a problem? Yet I had indigestion all my life without ever
knowing it because it was never not present, I had a chronic
cough that simple ran in the family and so on. Those weren't
caused by anything they were just normal. But then I tried
Induction and someone noticed that I'd walked up to them
without coughing so they didn't know it was me ...
Your case seems a bit out of the ordinary. Most people with a chronic
problem would have tracked it down, or attempted to, fairly quickly.
Do you actually imagine I didn't ask doctors about my chronic
cough? Zero of them ever suggested that it might be caused
by a food intolerance until they day Dr Atkins sorta became
my doctor. And so zero of them tried anything that had the
slightest effect. I wrote it off long since and it was only each
time I switched doctors that something else got tried. Then
I tried Induction and I found out for myself. Until then each new
doctor would notice and suggest stuff. I'd list what had been
tried and failed in years past. Some new docs had a new
ting to try some didn't. But none worked until the doctor was
named Atkins.
Quoted message said:I could not imagine having indigestion all of my life
The fact that you can't imagine it is irrelevant. The fact is I
couldn't tell because it was my normal and had been for my
entire life. I'd tried antacids, pepcid and so on because
folks discussed them but none ever switched my normal
digestion to superior digestion so I wrote it off. Digestion
was uniformly bad and some people were willing to try stuff
that didn't work because trying felt better than not trying near
as I could figure.
It was only when I tried Induction that what was once normal
became unacceptible and I could even tell I'd had indigestion
my entire previous life. Did people born into the Stone Age
know they were poor? Yet you bet stone age tribal folks
brought to a big city come to know it.
I've since discussed this with plenty of people who report
similar digestion. What's their uniform reaction? Wheat
or corn couldn't possibly do that so few even try going
without wheat or corn. And among the few who ever do
go without wheat or corn and who do see improvement,
several have decided they'd rather have indigestion and/or
snore than do without. So here I am in turn the one who
can't imagine such a viewpoint. Sigh.
Quoted message said:I am aware that many people have an allergic reaction to dairy,
wheat, nuts etc, that is slight enough for them never to truly consider
it a problem.
Or slight enough that it never occurs to them that it happens.
A peanut allergy that turns off your lungs is hard to miss.
Poor digestion ever since you were weaned is not, what with
it having been there your entire life. Folks born into the stone
age never realize they are poor. Folks born into the 21st
century never realize the poverty of being stuck on one
planet either. And folks born with below average digestion
don't know because we don't have magic mind links to know
how each others' bodies feel like.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Severe allergies will have been well known, but not mild ones.
A two week change in diet is unlikely to make a major change to a
lifelong "mild" problem, sufficient to regard it as something new and
very negative.
Nice of you to think so. Remove source of mild problem, that
mild problem starts ramping down. The actual detox runs in
the 1-2 week range. Convenient how Induction is 14 days.
There are so many convenient coincidences like that with Atkins.
It's like he thought it over and designed it or something. Oh
wait, he did. ;^)
Your reaction is usefull and educational, though. It strikes to
why even people who DO read the book rarely actually follow
the directions. There are parts of the Atkins process that DO
work, but that also DO NOT make sense on the surface. It
is SO easy to ignore and discount the parts you don't
understand or don't believe and only do the parts you do
understand or believe.
I'm very lucky I just took the book at face value and followed
the instructions as they were written, including the parts I
didn't believe. In the end what I discovered is what I believe
or not is irrelevant to what actually works. My beliefs had
long stood in the way and I never knew.
In reaction I started studying to figure out why Atkins does
actually work, including the parts I didn't believe at first.
And I started campaigning to get folks to follow the directions
including the parts they don't understand or believe.
