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  1. I've read a lot of posts by people who've fallen off the LC wagon and are
    beating themselves up over "cheating" and can't seem to shake off feelings
    of guilt and self-loathing.

    Early on, my wife and I did a little positive attitude readjustment on
    this subject. Maybe others might find it helpful too.

    If you're tempted by something, whether it's a single candy bar or all the
    food on the table at the so not LC family Thanksgiving, ask yourself, is
    this important enough to the quality of my life to be worth postponing my
    weight loss for?

    For some reason, asking yourself this question makes you think about the
    whole issue differently. You are still in a success frame of mind -
    weight loss will continue, although it may be set back or postponed - and
    you are taking responsibility for choosing your actions, not just letting
    things slide. It's also easier to resume afterwards.

    Mind you, I'm talking about single meal or single day indulgences, not
    multi-day binges that bring back cravings and other problems in full
    force. I had a couple of those before I learned better, and they were
    devilishly hard to recover from.

    So, fast food tacos on the way home from work after you missed lunch?
    Nah. Some of Aunt Peggy's sweet potato casserole and Mom's sage dressing
    at Thanksgiving? You bet. Donuts because someone brought donuts at work?
    Nah. Some wedding cake at your daughter's wedding? You bet.

    We also decided that whenever we postponed our weight loss, it would be
    for the "best bites", those first 3-4 bites that are really the tastiest
    bites of any food. That has really helped us keep our occasional
    indulgences moderate.

    Dan
    325/215/180
    Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
    Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

    Lose the CARBS to email me.

  2. Daniel Hoffmeister said:

    I've read a lot of posts by people who've fallen off the LC wagon and are
    beating themselves up over "cheating" and can't seem to shake off feelings
    of guilt and self-loathing.

    Early on, my wife and I did a little positive attitude readjustment on
    this subject. Maybe others might find it helpful too.

    If you're tempted by something, whether it's a single candy bar or all the
    food on the table at the so not LC family Thanksgiving, ask yourself, is
    this important enough to the quality of my life to be worth postponing my
    weight loss for?

    For some reason, asking yourself this question makes you think about the
    whole issue differently. You are still in a success frame of mind -
    weight loss will continue, although it may be set back or postponed - and
    you are taking responsibility for choosing your actions, not just letting
    things slide. It's also easier to resume afterwards.

    Mind you, I'm talking about single meal or single day indulgences, not
    multi-day binges that bring back cravings and other problems in full
    force. I had a couple of those before I learned better, and they were
    devilishly hard to recover from.

    So, fast food tacos on the way home from work after you missed lunch?
    Nah. Some of Aunt Peggy's sweet potato casserole and Mom's sage dressing
    at Thanksgiving? You bet. Donuts because someone brought donuts at work?
    Nah. Some wedding cake at your daughter's wedding? You bet.

    We also decided that whenever we postponed our weight loss, it would be
    for the "best bites", those first 3-4 bites that are really the tastiest
    bites of any food. That has really helped us keep our occasional
    indulgences moderate.

    Dan
    325/215/180
    Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
    Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

    Lose the CARBS to email me.

    I like the idea of postponing. It makes it sound much nicer than
    cheating and it makes more sense. Most of us know that when we treat
    ourselves to something high carb that we will be back on low carb the
    next day. We are not going to put on five pounds,or, most likely any
    pounds by a day of moderate high carbing. I used to treat myself to a
    real coke twice a week. I still do but with Coke 2. I have to have
    something crunchy with my lunch. LC Doritos-6 grams of carb in 10
    chips. Even If I go to McDonalds for a Big Mac meal I'll start
    thinking of it as postponing my diet for a day and start again
    tomorrow. It's easy to stick to a Low Carb diet, IMO, but the craving
    for carbs can sometimes be overwhelming.

    Gary Nichols

  3. Daniel,

    That strikes me as a very sane approach and your weight loss stats make the
    point more clearly than any words that it works extremely well for you!

    My own belief after almost 6 years of dealing with diabetes and low carbing
    (5 years on, 1 year off a low carb WOE) is that unless a person can come to
    terms with non-low carb foods they are going to experience some very nasty
    surprises down the line. The enthusiasm of the first year or two is
    extremely tough to maintain long term, particularly after weight loss has
    stopped and there is no longer the huge positive feedback of seeing the
    scale move.

    But everyone is different. I know one person who has never eaten a sugary
    dessert in over 50 years. I know others whose only response to food is to
    portion size. They are completely happy as long as there's a mound of
    something on the plate and if it were Purina People Chow they'd eat it
    happily every day of their lives.

    I'm not like that. I do have to have a bit of this and a bit of that, and
    the this and that change from month to month. For me right now there are
    only two rules. Number is that I must maintain my weight loss, which I have
    so far been successful at doing. I weigh this morning one pound more than
    what I weighed this day one year ago. The other is that I have to maintain
    my blood sugar control within normal limits.

    I've learned there are foods that make it very easy to get out of control.
    Oddly enough, they are not what I'd have thought they were. Yogurt with
    mix-ins, for example, is a much bigger problem for me than donuts. I know
    what a donut is so I eat one very rarely and I know exactly what I'm doing
    to myself. Yogurt, OTOH, can carry an immense amount of coconut and nuts in
    it without my noticing that I've added an additional 300 calories to my
    daily regimen. Do that for breakfast for two weeks and you've gained some
    real weight.

    I've also learned that, for me, there's a cycle with off-plan foods. I'll
    eat one little taste of something and it is so good I feel like I have to
    have more. The second time I get it, it is never as good as I remember. By
    the third time I'll think, why am I doing this to myself? It doesn't taste
    that good? After that it is very easy to not eat the food again.

    Occasionally something really bad for me is harder to resist, then it is a
    matter of finding something else I really like and substituting it or
    setting a limit on how much of the stuff I can have in a month.

    It is an ongoing process. If you are going to succeed at weight loss you
    will have to find something that works all the time because, believe me,
    when you get to goal weight you are going to have to continue eating
    whatever it was you were eating when you "ended" your diet, or that weight
    will come right back on. It is a huge misconception to think that once you
    hit goal, then you can eat all those treats you avoided before! So working
    some of them into the diet food plan, though it slows the loss, might be the
    key to maintaining that loss later.

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
    strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

    "Daniel Hoffmeister" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've read a lot of posts by people who've fallen off the LC wagon and are
    beating themselves up over "cheating" and can't seem to shake off feelings
    of guilt and self-loathing.

    Early on, my wife and I did a little positive attitude readjustment on
    this subject. Maybe others might find it helpful too.

    If you're tempted by something, whether it's a single candy bar or all the
    food on the table at the so not LC family Thanksgiving, ask yourself, is
    this important enough to the quality of my life to be worth postponing my
    weight loss for?

    For some reason, asking yourself this question makes you think about the
    whole issue differently. You are still in a success frame of mind -
    weight loss will continue, although it may be set back or postponed - and
    you are taking responsibility for choosing your actions, not just letting
    things slide. It's also easier to resume afterwards.

    Mind you, I'm talking about single meal or single day indulgences, not
    multi-day binges that bring back cravings and other problems in full
    force. I had a couple of those before I learned better, and they were
    devilishly hard to recover from.

    So, fast food tacos on the way home from work after you missed lunch?
    Nah. Some of Aunt Peggy's sweet potato casserole and Mom's sage dressing
    at Thanksgiving? You bet. Donuts because someone brought donuts at work?
    Nah. Some wedding cake at your daughter's wedding? You bet.

    We also decided that whenever we postponed our weight loss, it would be
    for the "best bites", those first 3-4 bites that are really the tastiest
    bites of any food. That has really helped us keep our occasional
    indulgences moderate.

    Dan
    325/215/180
    Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
    Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

    Lose the CARBS to email me.

  4. Dan said,
    "is
    this important enough to the quality of my life to be worth postponing my
    weight loss for?"

    Becky says,
    I agree, Dan, and I think it is good to allow yourself something,
    occasionally, if you want it, but be aware that you are postponing weight
    loss. i.e. on Thanksgiving and Christmas (here in Poland that is three
    days, the 24-26), I didn't try to diet..I ate sweet potatoes and apple
    pie, etc. It was great, and worth the extra week or two that I was set
    behind. Because I got to where I wasn't losing very fast anyway, once I
    got down to 150, so one or two more weeks "getting there" certainly didn't
    slow it down significantly in the long haul, IMO, and made me not feel
    "deprived".

    I think that is a good way of looking at things, along with Jenny's
    "scientific experiment" outlook on dieting, why can't we succeed in
    keeping our weight loss? I think it is when we throw in the towel after
    giving in to one donut at work, and say, "well, that's it, I can't do it."
    Sorta like an ex-alcoholic who gives in to one beer and decides that
    "It's no use, I might as well go lie in the gutter." I really like this
    mentality, and you put it well.

    For those who actually grow to "dislike" sugar, like Ig, or begin to have
    a hard time even eating sugary or sweet foods, they may not face this, but
    for most of us, it will continue to be something we deal with the rest of
    our lives.

    Becky P.
    www.family.solidrockpl.org

  5. Ignoramus14841 wrote:
    :: In article <[email hidden]>, Jenny wrote:
    ::: It is an ongoing process. If you are going to succeed at weight
    ::: loss you will have to find something that works all the time
    ::: because, believe me, when you get to goal weight you are going to
    ::: have to continue eating whatever it was you were eating when you
    ::: "ended" your diet, or that weight will come right back on. It is a
    ::: huge misconception to think that once you hit goal, then you can
    ::: eat all those treats you avoided before! So working some of them
    ::: into the diet food plan, though it slows the loss, might be the key
    ::: to maintaining that loss later.
    ::
    :: I have to eat even less now than I was eating during most of my
    :: dieting.
    ::

    I thought you were eating about 2400 kcals per day?

    :: i

  6. Daniel Hoffmeister said:

    So, fast food tacos on the way home from work after you missed lunch?
    Nah. Some of Aunt Peggy's sweet potato casserole and Mom's sage dressing
    at Thanksgiving? You bet. Donuts because someone brought donuts at work?
    Nah. Some wedding cake at your daughter's wedding? You bet.

    Nice way to put it : ) Sort out only the very special
    occasions and enjoy.

    Quoted message said:

    Dan
    325/215/180
    Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
    Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

    Mmmmm...Krispy Kremes

    Marsha/Ohio

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