cheaper stop gap benches

The Crow said:

Hi.

Continuing my research into budget workout options, I found this.

http://www.premiersportsandfitness.co.uk/Benches/marcy_MWB_Olympian_bench_P.8.htm

I know this is no where near what you want from a full power rack, but,
right now, I haven't got the space or the money for a rack at this time, and
at least this bench has safeties on the back, which must surely help with
the squats.

You cannot squat safely with that. Join a cheap gym at a local rec
centre with a squat rack or find a different exercise.

You've been whining about not having enough money for a power rack, but
right now it seems that you just aren't willing to put in the effort to
find one. I found one for the SAME PRICE as that piece of [censored] you've
linked to above, and it includes VAT and delivery:

http://www.argos-sports.co.uk/mall/departmentpage.cfm/Argos/70106

Finding it took me all of five minutes. Is there some reason you
couldn't do this for yourself? There are multiple sites advertising this
rack for that price.

Cheers,

Ari

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Okay.

Firstly, a piece of advice, when your leg starts feeling warm and wet,
change the panty liner.

Whining? Personally I just thought I was asking for some advice from people
who are much further down the line than I am, and therefore might know
better. I'm sorry if this [censored] you off enough to bring this ingenerous
streak out in your disordered personality.

Of course I would like a power rack, and of course I have found that one
before. In fact, I've been all roung the net several times over looking at
kit.

Yes I am a little strapped for cash, and no I am not whining, it's just one
of the constraints I have to think about. I'd like to get a Body Solid Pro
rack with chin bar, dip handles, and a bloody good bench, plus some new
weights. That would be the ideal, but it's not an option, so I'm looking at
compromises.

Besides money, the other big constraight is space. My girlfriend does not
like the sound of a power rack nocking about in our spare room. I know that
a bench takes up as much room in terms of a footprint, but it's the sheer
height of a rack, and the way it would impact on the room, that she doesn't
like. And she pays the rent.

And no, for reasons that I won't go into here, it is not really an option
for me to join a public gym, cheap or otherwise.

I have thought about the rack you have pointed out, so irrasibly, but there
is one problem. By the time you add on the cost of a bench, you've gone
beyond my budget of about £200-250. That's why I discounted it.

In the future, I hope to have the money and space to do what I want, but
right now I need to compromise on the money, for my banks sake, and on the
space, for my girlfriend's. That's it really. I don't think this qualifies
as whining, just me trying to explain the situation and ask for some advice.

The reason I thought the combo bench I linked to earlier might be a good
thing, is because I am not very advanced at this stage. I cannot squat a
great deal, and my bench is pretty flimsy too, so it doesn't really matter
if the bench combo hasn't got the balls of a power rack, because I haven't
either.

Contrary to what you think, I've been researching different options for
weeks. I've been all around the racks, benches, through ebay, via body
solid, powertec and keys ironman, and have not yet come up with an answer
that satisfies me. So I thought I'd ask on here. I'm definitely putting in
the time, don't worry about that.

The Crow said:

Yes I am a little strapped for cash, and no I am not whining, it's just one
of the constraints I have to think about.

It's not the strapped for cash bit that bugs me, it's your repeatedly
posting pieces of [censored] equipment that the more experienced people here
have told you are inappropriate for your uses. You just keep repeating
yourself until you get the answer you want, like a child nagging their
parents for a new toy.

Quoted message said:

I'd like to get a Body Solid Pro
rack with chin bar, dip handles, and a bloody good bench, plus some new
weights. That would be the ideal, but it's not an option, so I'm looking at
compromises.

I've been getting along for 8.5 years with a rack very similar to the
one I posted for you. It's made by BodySolid, but I wasn't able to find
its equivalent for you in the UK. You do not need the pro rack, and
buying one of those little all-in-one things that you keep posting is a
waste of your limited funds.

Quoted message said:

Besides money, the other big constraight is space. My girlfriend does not
like the sound of a power rack nocking about in our spare room.

Then you need to explain to her that the power rack is necessary to keep
you, and the room, safe. Barbells go through walls very easilly if
there's a mishap (a mishap that could have been prevented with the use
of appropriate equipment). More importantly, though, is your safety. If
she doesn't get this, then try explaining it to her in different words.
The equipment you've been suggesting is not safe for someone training
alone if you're going to be using weights that are heavy for you or
going anywhere near failure (intentionally or not).

Quoted message said:

I know that
a bench takes up as much room in terms of a footprint, but it's the sheer
height of a rack, and the way it would impact on the room, that she doesn't
like. And she pays the rent.

She needs to consider your safety. If that's not important to her, then
perhaps it's time to reevaluate your committment. Injuries don't always
heal right.

Quoted message said:

And no, for reasons that I won't go into here, it is not really an option
for me to join a public gym, cheap or otherwise.

I have thought about the rack you have pointed out, so irrasibly, but there
is one problem. By the time you add on the cost of a bench, you've gone
beyond my budget of about £200-250. That's why I discounted it.

You don't even need a bench. The bench you'd use for what? One exercise:
the bench press. This is not a necessary movement! A power rack and a
barbell with some weights are all you need until you can save up for a
bench. I'm certain you could even find a used flat bench second hand,
and that would fit into your budget. Want me to see if I can find one
for about what you want to spend, new?

Quoted message said:

The reason I thought the combo bench I linked to earlier might be a good
thing, is because I am not very advanced at this stage. I cannot squat a
great deal,

It's all relative: heavy for you may not be heavy for me, but it's heavy
enough to hurt you without the proper equipment.

My biggest concern here is that you're going to come back in a month
with a problem that would have been avoided by just getting a rack in
the first place. I'm serious when I say that the bench can wait. Do you
already have a barbell and weights?

Cheers,

Ari

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Sorry that I keep deleting your text, but I figure this could get very wordy
otherwise.

Yes, I already have a barbell and weights, although it's not olympic, so I'd
need to get a seven foot standard bar, that would fit the rack, and my
standard plates, until I could afford an olympic set. I also have a bench,
but it's one of those crappy little York 6605's with the rubbish little
uprights.

That Powerline rack has a chin bar, which is something I really wanted, so
that's a plus.

The only thing about that rack, is that I wanted to get some dip handles in
the future, as an upgrade, and it looks like Body Solid don't do them for
that model. Unless I'm arsing around again.

Interested to hear what you have to say about not needing a bench.

The Crow said:

Sorry that I keep deleting your text, but I figure this could get very wordy
otherwise.

No worries, it's proper netiquette.

Quoted message said:

Yes, I already have a barbell and weights, although it's not olympic, so I'd
need to get a seven foot standard bar,

What's the distance between the inner collars of your current bar? It is
good to have some clearance, though. Reracking the bar after a set of
squats without sufficient clearance is not a good thing, even in a power
rack.

Quoted message said:

that would fit the rack, and my
standard plates, until I could afford an olympic set.

When the weights you're using require it, that'll be a move you can
consider down the road (when you've got more cash as well).

Quoted message said:

I also have a bench,
but it's one of those crappy little York 6605's with the rubbish little
uprights.

It could fit inside the rack though. How close are you to its stated
cpacity? I think you mentioned this as a concern in another thread
earlier in the week.

Quoted message said:

That Powerline rack has a chin bar, which is something I really wanted, so
that's a plus.

That's one of the reasons why I focussed on it. It's very similar to my
base model bodysolid rack. I love that pullup bar.

Quoted message said:

The only thing about that rack, is that I wanted to get some dip handles in
the future, as an upgrade, and it looks like Body Solid don't do them for
that model. Unless I'm arsing around again.

Yeah, I designed and had made a dip insert to go over the safeties for
my rack. I just happened to find a custum gym equipment manufacturer out
in the Western Australian bush, though :-)

Quoted message said:

Interested to hear what you have to say about not needing a bench.

It's not just me. If I recall correctly there was at least one other guy
saying the bench could wait. But that was before you mentioned the
room's ceiling height as possibly being a restriction. Standing overhead
presses are great, but not if you're tall and you're hitting the weights
on the ceiling! The squat is a better overall exercise for building
strength and mass than the bench press. The squat and the pullup could
comprise an entire routine! Adding in overhead presses would be even
better. Then in 6 months time you can add a bench. Even now I'm
regretting my BodySolid flat/incline/decline bench. I mentioned the
slight wobble which bugs me when I'm benching over 200lbs, but it's also
too high off the ground. A simple flat bench would suit me better at
this time in my life. I never needed the decline, but I really should
say that the incline was vital in my training while rehabbing my
shoulder to avoid surgery. You don't need a bench for rows, or
deadlifts, or stiff leg deadlifts, etc etc etc. You could even put some
weight in a backpack and do pushups if you're REALLY stressed about not
bench pressing.

In the end, though, I wouldn't bench press without a strong spotter in
the latest all-in-one you posted. The safeties are not sufficient. I
would not even consider back squatting using that. You're risking not
only yourself but the walls of the spare room if you do. You're
girlfriend would be REALLY [censored] if you not only hurt yourself but cost
her her security deposit at the same time.

Ari

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Quoted message said:

Okay.

Firstly, a piece of advice, when your leg starts feeling warm and wet,
change the panty liner.

SNIP

Quoted message said:

Contrary to what you think, I've been researching different options for
weeks. I've been all around the racks, benches, through ebay, via body
solid, powertec and keys ironman, and have not yet come up with an answer
that satisfies me. So I thought I'd ask on here. I'm definitely putting

in

Quoted message said:

the time, don't worry about that.

Nice reply to an uncalled for post. Good job.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I also have a bench,
but it's one of those crappy little York 6605's with the rubbish little
uprights.

It could fit inside the rack though. How close are you to its stated
cpacity? I think you mentioned this as a concern in another thread earlier
in the week.

I'm not so near the capacity that I couldn't consider using it, but - and
here's a naive question I'm sure - can any bench fit inside any rack? I
mean, this York 6605 I've been using (rubbish piece of [censored] that it is),
does have these piddly little uprights to hold the barbell, wouldn't they
get in the way? Does any old bench work with any old rack?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That Powerline rack has a chin bar, which is something I really wanted,
so that's a plus.

That's one of the reasons why I focussed on it. It's very similar to my
base model bodysolid rack. I love that pullup bar.

And here's another naive question. That pull up bar is what, 80" off the
ground? So unless you're about three foot tall, you won't be able to pull
in perfect groundlessness. So what's the done thing, curling your legs up
under you to get them off the ground?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The only thing about that rack, is that I wanted to get some dip handles
in the future, as an upgrade, and it looks like Body Solid don't do them
for that model. Unless I'm arsing around again.

Yeah, I designed and had made a dip insert to go over the safeties for my
rack. I just happened to find a custum gym equipment manufacturer out in
the Western Australian bush, though :-)

Quoted message said:

Interested to hear what you have to say about not needing a bench.

It's not just me. If I recall correctly there was at least one other guy
saying the bench could wait. But that was before you mentioned the room's
ceiling height as possibly being a restriction. Standing overhead presses
are great, but not if you're tall and you're hitting the weights on the
ceiling! The squat is a better overall exercise for building strength and
mass than the bench press. The squat and the pullup could comprise an
entire routine! Adding in overhead presses would be even better.

I currently do the over-head, but have stagnated in that somewhat, for some
reason. Some part of my shoulder appears to be comparatively weaker than
the rest, and it's holding me back a little. that's an aside however.

The Crow said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I also have a bench,
but it's one of those crappy little York 6605's with the rubbish little
uprights.

It could fit inside the rack though. How close are you to its stated
cpacity? I think you mentioned this as a concern in another thread earlier
in the week.

I'm not so near the capacity that I couldn't consider using it, but - and
here's a naive question I'm sure - can any bench fit inside any rack? I
mean, this York 6605 I've been using (rubbish piece of [censored] that it is),
does have these piddly little uprights to hold the barbell, wouldn't they
get in the way? Does any old bench work with any old rack?

Having uprights is not ideal, but you need something you can use until
you get a better option. As long as the uprights aren't as wide as the
rack, why wouldn't you be able to use them? You may have to take the bar
from the uprights rather than the rack hooks, but it's the rack safeties
that are the important issue. That's what I used before I could afford a
new bench. I also used standard plates and a standard bar until I could
afford an olympic set. Heck, I even had the olympic plates before aI had
the bar! I was able to get a good deal at a gym closing auction.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That Powerline rack has a chin bar, which is something I really wanted,
so that's a plus.

That's one of the reasons why I focussed on it. It's very similar to my
base model bodysolid rack. I love that pullup bar.

And here's another naive question. That pull up bar is what, 80" off the
ground? So unless you're about three foot tall, you won't be able to pull
in perfect groundlessness. So what's the done thing, curling your legs up
under you to get them off the ground?

Yes. Just bend the knees slightly. I even do this when I'm at the gym
and doing pullups that require a step to reach the bar.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The only thing about that rack, is that I wanted to get some dip handles
in the future, as an upgrade, and it looks like Body Solid don't do them
for that model. Unless I'm arsing around again.

Yeah, I designed and had made a dip insert to go over the safeties for my
rack. I just happened to find a custum gym equipment manufacturer out in
the Western Australian bush, though :-)

Quoted message said:

Interested to hear what you have to say about not needing a bench.

It's not just me. If I recall correctly there was at least one other guy
saying the bench could wait. But that was before you mentioned the room's
ceiling height as possibly being a restriction. Standing overhead presses
are great, but not if you're tall and you're hitting the weights on the
ceiling! The squat is a better overall exercise for building strength and
mass than the bench press. The squat and the pullup could comprise an
entire routine! Adding in overhead presses would be even better.

I currently do the over-head, but have stagnated in that somewhat, for some
reason. Some part of my shoulder appears to be comparatively weaker than
the rest, and it's holding me back a little. that's an aside however.

Have you tried doing an external rotation work?

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http://www.abmdr.org.au/
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Quoted message said:

The Crow said:

Quoted message said:

>I also have a bench,
>but it's one of those crappy little York 6605's with the rubbish little
>uprights.

It could fit inside the rack though. How close are you to its stated
cpacity? I think you mentioned this as a concern in another thread
earlier in the week.

I'm not so near the capacity that I couldn't consider using it, but - and
here's a naive question I'm sure - can any bench fit inside any rack? I
mean, this York 6605 I've been using (rubbish piece of [censored] that it is),
does have these piddly little uprights to hold the barbell, wouldn't they
get in the way? Does any old bench work with any old rack?

Having uprights is not ideal, but you need something you can use until you
get a better option. As long as the uprights aren't as wide as the rack,
why wouldn't you be able to use them? You may have to take the bar from
the uprights rather than the rack hooks, but it's the rack safeties that
are the important issue. That's what I used before I could afford a new
bench. I also used standard plates and a standard bar until I could afford
an olympic set. Heck, I even had the olympic plates before aI had the bar!
I was able to get a good deal at a gym closing auction.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>That Powerline rack has a chin bar, which is something I really wanted,
>so that's a plus.

That's one of the reasons why I focussed on it. It's very similar to my
base model bodysolid rack. I love that pullup bar.

And here's another naive question. That pull up bar is what, 80" off the
ground? So unless you're about three foot tall, you won't be able to
pull in perfect groundlessness. So what's the done thing, curling your
legs up under you to get them off the ground?

Yes. Just bend the knees slightly. I even do this when I'm at the gym and
doing pullups that require a step to reach the bar.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>The only thing about that rack, is that I wanted to get some dip handles
>in the future, as an upgrade, and it looks like Body Solid don't do them
>for that model. Unless I'm arsing around again.

Yeah, I designed and had made a dip insert to go over the safeties for my
rack. I just happened to find a custum gym equipment manufacturer out in
the Western Australian bush, though :-)

>Interested to hear what you have to say about not needing a bench.

It's not just me. If I recall correctly there was at least one other guy
saying the bench could wait. But that was before you mentioned the room's
ceiling height as possibly being a restriction. Standing overhead presses
are great, but not if you're tall and you're hitting the weights on the
ceiling! The squat is a better overall exercise for building strength and
mass than the bench press. The squat and the pullup could comprise an
entire routine! Adding in overhead presses would be even better.

I currently do the over-head, but have stagnated in that somewhat, for
some reason. Some part of my shoulder appears to be comparatively weaker
than the rest, and it's holding me back a little. that's an aside
however.

Have you tried doing an external rotation work?

No. Can't say I have.

Oh, and you asked about the collar width on my bar? Well, the inside
collars are 37" apart, it's a 5ft bar only.

The Crow said:

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Have you tried doing an external rotation work?

No. Can't say I have.

Oh, and you asked about the collar width on my bar? Well, the inside
collars are 37" apart, it's a 5ft bar only.

Yeah, you'll need a new bar for squats. You don't want to clank the
plates into the rack uprights while trying to rack it. Here's a link to
an external rotator exercise that I really like and have used for years:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Infraspinatus/DBLyingExternalRotation.html

I don't like the upright version of this movement due to the position of
the humerus and the tendons coming in under the AC joint at that
particular arm angle, but others don't agree with me there.

There're probably some form tweaks to use when overhead pressing that
would enable you to progress more over time, but we all stagnate at
points and eventually move through them.

Ari

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http://www.abmdr.org.au/
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Quoted message said:

The Crow said:

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Have you tried doing an external rotation work?

No. Can't say I have.

Oh, and you asked about the collar width on my bar? Well, the inside
collars are 37" apart, it's a 5ft bar only.

Yeah, you'll need a new bar for squats. You don't want to clank the
plates into the rack uprights while trying to rack it. Here's a link
to an external rotator exercise that I really like and have used for
years:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Infraspinatus/DBLyingExternalRotation.html

I don't like the upright version of this movement due to the position
of the humerus and the tendons coming in under the AC joint at that
particular arm angle, but others don't agree with me there.

There're probably some form tweaks to use when overhead pressing that
would enable you to progress more over time, but we all stagnate at
points and eventually move through them.

Just do dumbbell Arnold presses and get your external rotation work in
that way?

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Quoted message said:

Ari

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neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a
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marrow transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

The Crow said:

Sorry that I keep deleting your text, but I figure this could get very wordy
otherwise.

Can't have that. Just cut out stuff that doesn't matter to your reply.

Quoted message said:

Yes, I already have a barbell and weights, although it's not olympic, so I'd
need to get a seven foot standard bar, that would fit the rack, and my
standard plates, until I could afford an olympic set. I also have a bench,
but it's one of those crappy little York 6605's with the rubbish little
uprights.

That Powerline rack has a chin bar, which is something I really wanted, so
that's a plus.

The only thing about that rack, is that I wanted to get some dip handles in
the future, as an upgrade, and it looks like Body Solid don't do them for
that model. Unless I'm arsing around again.

Interested to hear what you have to say about not needing a bench.

If you get a decent cage/squat rack, you won't need a full bench.
A flat utility bench will do. Or get one that can be inclined.

Steve Freides said:

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Quoted message said:

The Crow said:

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message

>Have you tried doing an external rotation work?
>

No. Can't say I have.

Oh, and you asked about the collar width on my bar? Well, the inside
collars are 37" apart, it's a 5ft bar only.

Yeah, you'll need a new bar for squats. You don't want to clank the
plates into the rack uprights while trying to rack it. Here's a link
to an external rotator exercise that I really like and have used for
years:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Infraspinatus/DBLyingExternalRotation.html

I don't like the upright version of this movement due to the position
of the humerus and the tendons coming in under the AC joint at that
particular arm angle, but others don't agree with me there.

There're probably some form tweaks to use when overhead pressing that
would enable you to progress more over time, but we all stagnate at
points and eventually move through them.

Just do dumbbell Arnold presses and get your external rotation work in
that way?

I've always found arnold presses to be rough on the shoulders, and I've
various ideas on why this is the case for myself and a few others. The
external rotation in the arnold press is a small percentage of the range
of motion in the exercise I linked to, and it's also not against
resistance: just like those women in the gym using the pink dumbbells
are not working their chests by doing flyes standing up!

Ari

Quoted message said:

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Quoted message said:

Ari

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transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

spodosaurus said:

The Crow wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I currently do the over-head, but have stagnated in that somewhat, for
some reason. Some part of my shoulder appears to be comparatively
weaker than the rest, and it's holding me back a little. that's an
aside however.

Have you tried doing an external rotation work?

and rear delt work.

http://familydoctor.org/265.xml (external rot. are exer. 1 & 2)
http://www.exrx.net/Lists/ExList/ShouldWt.html#anchor1934542

The Crow said:

[censored]

HEY! That's my line...

The Queen of Cans and censored said:

The Crow wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

[censored]

Due to your absolutely stunning inability
to quote properly, your attempt at insulting
me just makes you look like

Funny, you came to mind immediately even without mention of your nick.
Hnh.

Quoted message said:

But do keep it up - we haven't had any fun
around here in ages.

Who's we, mica? You in the band? If so, what instrument do you play?
The electric [censored]?

[censored]. Now THERE's a cool word.

Twattwattwat.

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Curt
http://curtjames.com/

"Curt James" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The Queen of Cans and censored said:

The Crow wrote:

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[censored]

Due to your absolutely stunning inability
to quote properly, your attempt at insulting
me just makes you look like

Funny, you came to mind immediately even without mention of your nick.
Hnh.

Quoted message said:

But do keep it up - we haven't had any fun
around here in ages.

Who's we, mica? You in the band? If so, what instrument do you play?
The electric [censored]?

[censored]. Now THERE's a cool word.

Twattwattwat.

Ha ha! The electric [censored]! (doubt she's in the band Curt - other than maybe
as 'seamstress' for the band?)