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  1. jtaylor said:

    "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    The banana's question was silly; my response was silly, and your asking
    for a reference to my opinion was the silliest of all.

    Would it be that you thought we should know you would not have any support
    for your opinion?

    But I did have support. When you asked for a reference, I gave my
    support. It was an argument that established my answer as correct. And I
    did it all without any references.

    If you require a reference for every assertion, then you are saying you
    won't accept the truth of any assertion, because if every assertion must
    be based on a reference to be true, then first principles are false, and
    evertything that is based on first principles is false, and so on,
    makinjg every assertion false. See how smaqrt I am?

  2. jtaylor said:

    "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >There is no double standard. If anyone was referring to FINA definitions
    >of strokes, it was you, and only you.

    But _you_ were the first person in the thread to use the word

    "competitive"

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    in referring to the strokes - that makes YOU the person who would be
    referring to those definitions.

    I didn't refer to any definitions.

    But "the competitive strokes" must mean those defined in the rules of
    competition.

    No, it means the ones used in competition. there are four. I've listed them.

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    If you did not want to define strokes in those terms, why did
    you use that pharse?

    Because everybody knows the four strokes swum in competition. Maybe the
    banana doesn't-- sorry... maybe the aquachimp doewsn't know the four
    strokes.

  3. jtaylor said:

    Would that mean that you won'r respond to any thread I participate in?

    I've tried to add a filter to delete your posts, so I won't be tempted
    to respond to them, but I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird now, and I have no
    idea how its filter system handles newsgroups, so I don't know if what I
    have done will work. So I'm not making any promises, but if this does
    work, I won't see your posts anymore.

    Steve? You being an electrical engineer and all probably know how to get
    Mozilla Thunderbird to delete posts submitted by a certain person. If
    you have any advice, you being an electrical engineer and all, I would
    be much obliged.

  4. "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    No, a reference to support your opinion. Do you have any?

    I answered that the first time you asked. No, I said, I don't have a
    reference, but I do have an argument. And then I gave my argument,
    whyich was correct. And then you started with the insults.

    How did I insult you?

  5. "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    He's a banana, and so are you. If you think being called a banana is an
    insult, let's just stop. Shall we stop?

    Stopping the insults would be a good thing for you to do.

  6. "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >>You can use multiple strokes in the way I explained to rest and to


    take

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    >>instructions from your crew, but you can rest and take instruction


    from

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    >>your crew without doing any stroke at all, so it isn't an advantage.
    >
    >
    >Would not it be an advantage in terms of time, or maintaining body
    >temperature?

    I doubt it. Do you have a reference?

    Well, many studies have shown that internal heat generation increases


    with

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    activity.

    That's true, but you could do even more activity treading water with an
    egg beater kick,

    But that would not be a "rest" as you describe it.

  7. "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    jtaylor said:

    "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >What about the occasions when you are presuming that you are right?

    That would be all of them, so that's kind of a dumb question.

    So you statement that you are always right is not based in fact, but


    merely

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    presumption?

    It is a fact that I am not always right.

    When was the last time you think you were not right?

  8. "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    jtaylor said:

    "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >>I don't think so. Do you have a reference?
    >
    >
    >A reference for what?

    I don't know.

    Why did you ask the question then?

    It was an insult, the same insult as when you asked the same question.

    Why do you think asking a reasonable question is an insult?

  9. "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    jtaylor said:

    "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >Why would you think anyone "out there" would feel inferior to you?

    The alternative would be for me to think I'm inferior to everybody. I
    don't think that. I'm really a very smart guy. I suppose I'm a boring
    guy, but I'm very smart. So I would be surprised if the doormats the
    banana was talking about didn't feel a little inferior.

    Would it have anything to do with your calling other people names?

    I don't think so.

    Don't you think other people would be affected by your calling them names?

  10. "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    jtaylor said:

    "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The banana's question was silly; my response was silly, and your asking
    for a reference to my opinion was the silliest of all.

    Would it be that you thought we should know you would not have any


    support

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    for your opinion?

    But I did have support. When you asked for a reference, I gave my
    support. It was an argument

    But your argument was factually and logically flawed. A reference would
    have been much better.

  11. "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >>There is no double standard. If anyone was referring to FINA


    definitions

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    >>of strokes, it was you, and only you.
    >
    >
    >But _you_ were the first person in the thread to use the word

    "competitive"

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    >in referring to the strokes - that makes YOU the person who would be
    >referring to those definitions.

    I didn't refer to any definitions.

    But "the competitive strokes" must mean those defined in the rules of
    competition.

    No, it means the ones used in competition. there are four.

    But there are many more than four used in competition.

  12. "jtaylor" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
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    "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
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    >>>There is no double standard. If anyone was referring to FINA


    definitions

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>of strokes, it was you, and only you.
    >>
    >>
    >>But _you_ were the first person in the thread to use the word

    "competitive"

    >>in referring to the strokes - that makes YOU the person who would be
    >>referring to those definitions.
    >
    >I didn't refer to any definitions.

    But "the competitive strokes" must mean those defined in the rules of
    competition.

    No, it means the ones used in competition. there are four.

    But there are many more than four used in competition.

    Martin, j,

    Is one of you an Eliza program?
    Or both?

    -- Olivier

  13. Quoted message said:

    Steve? You being an electrical engineer
    and all probably know how to get Mozilla
    Thunderbird to delete posts submitted by
    a certain person. If you have any advice,
    you being an electrical engineer and all, I
    would be much obliged.

    Sorry, you're on your own. I'd rather concentrate on my swim training
    instead of worrying about solving your software problems.

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