changing to flat bar,A little long

Jamie TrailBlazer At Large said:

Ok hears my idea .I don't use the drop on my road bike like never ,I was going to put a flat bar
and new shifters and V brakes on it,The shifters are Shimano xt with brake levers,Will these work
with my 105 derailers.

If your front is a two chainring system, it can be made to work OK. If its a triple chainring,
you'll need a different Front derailer, the R440.

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I'm going to keep my arrow bars and use bar ends I fell more comfortable with the Mtn bike set
.Not that interested in the arrow effect of the drop bars ,All I ever use are the top of the bar
and ride on the hoods .

This is a very common situation, but it doesn't necessarily point to any flaw with drop bars.
Rather, it is a sign that the bars are in the wrong place!

Most likely, your handlebars are too low or to far forward for your shape and riding style. It would
be a LOT cheaper to move the bars to where they belong than to replace all of the control mechanisms
on your bike.

See my article on this:

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"Jamie TrailBlazer At Large" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Ok hears my idea .I don't use the drop on my road bike like never ,I was going to put a flat bar
and new shifters and V brakes on it,The shifters are Shimano xt with brake levers,Will

these

Quoted message said:

work with my 105 derailers.I'm going to keep my arrow bars and use bar

ends

Quoted message said:

I fell more comfortable with the Mtn bike set .Not that interested in the arrow effect of the drop
bars ,All I ever use are the top of the bar and ride on the hoods . My Mtn bike I ride in the
winter is more comfy to me

,In

Quoted message said:

not a road racer,Use it for training for Mtn biking ,thought have both bike's set up the same way
might ?? even be better . Just looking for options. thanks

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J/O TrailBlazer at Large

I have this setup on two bikes and it works fine. I find the upright riding position much more
comfortable.

Bob McBreen

Jamie TrailBlazer At Large said:

Ok hears my idea .I don't use the drop on my road bike like never ,I was going to put a flat bar
and new shifters and V brakes on it,The shifters are Shimano xt with brake levers,Will these work
with my 105 derailers.I'm going to keep my arrow bars and use bar ends I fell more comfortable
with the Mtn bike set .Not that interested in the arrow effect of the drop bars ,All I ever use
are the top of the bar and ride on the hoods . My Mtn bike I ride in the winter is more comfy to
me ,In not a road racer,Use it for training for Mtn biking ,thought have both bike's set up the
same way might ?? even be better . Just looking for options. thanks

OK, _here's_ a response. Flat bars are maybe not so _aero_ but a nice choice in traffic, where
vision and visibility, besides quick brake response, count for something.

The front derailleur may be touchy as that shifter is not supposed to work with that front
changer but IMHO overmuch os made of that. If you have difficulty just add a $10 top shifter to
the left side.

--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Jamie TrailBlazer At Large said:

Ok hears my idea .I don't use the drop on my road bike like never ,I was going to put a flat bar
and new shifters and V brakes on it,The shifters are Shimano xt with brake levers,Will these work
with my 105 derailers.I'm going to keep my arrow bars and use bar ends I fell more comfortable
with the Mtn bike set .Not that interested in the arrow effect of the drop bars ,All I ever use
are the top of the bar and ride on the hoods . My Mtn bike I ride in the winter is more comfy to
me ,In not a road racer,Use it for training for Mtn biking ,thought have both bike's set up the
same way might ?? even be better . Just looking for options. thanks

OK, _here's_ a response. Flat bars are maybe not so _aero_ but a nice choice in traffic, where
vision and visibility, besides quick brake response, count for something.

The front derailleur may be touchy as that shifter is not supposed to work with that front
changer but IMHO overmuch is made of that. If you have difficulty just add a $10 top shifter to
the left side.

--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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I fell more comfortable with the Mtn bike set .Not that interested in the arrow effect of the
drop bars

I did the same thing. I had to buy a Nashbar Comfort Stem..
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and then mtn bike handlebars with a 2 inch rise and a 10 degree sweep. I added LX shifters and brake
levers. I hooked this all to my Shimao 105 derailer. The derailer didn't work...so I posted my
problem on wreck.bike.

..A non-shy, most wise man, who's likely not pulling for Carolina in the SBowl, who's advice has
saved me many times, posted:

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If its a triple chainring, you'll need a different front derailer, the R440

...or words to that effect. I purchased one directly from him.

The derailer and the mtb handlebar setup work for me. I wish that the bike had been configured that
way when I bought it...I suffered for two years unnecessarily.

trek-<< I was going to put a flat bar and new shifters and V brakes on it,The shifters are
Shimano xt with brake levers,Will these work with my 105 derailers.I'm going to keep my arrow
bars and use bar ends

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The barends will work fine with 105 ders....

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Quoted message said:

This is a very common situation, but it doesn't necessarily point to any flaw with drop bars.
Rather, it is a sign that the bars are in the wrong place!

Most likely, your handlebars are too low or to far forward for your shape and riding style. It
would be a LOT cheaper to move the bars to where they belong than to replace all of the control
mechanisms on your bike.

See my article on this:

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I'll support Mr. Brown's assertion that your bars are probably in the wrong spot. And most likely
you have the wrong type of drop bar. And you would be better financially and comfort wise trying to
put the proper drop bars in the proper position than puttin gflat bars on the bike.

Mr. Brown's article seems to dwell mainly on stems. I think the right stem height, angle, etc. is
only half the solution. And usually the smaller half.

The handlebar itself is very important. One of the most important comfort parts on the bike. Drop
handlebars come in many shapes. Some have a huge drop, some have a shallow drop. Drop being how low
the bottom of the bar is. TTT Morphe and TTT Forma have very shallow drops. Very desirable for being
able to reach the drop and use it. Professional racers and those emulating them like to have deep
drop bars. Not comfortable for me.

The other crucial dimension in drop handlebars is the reach. How far forward the hook is. Or how
much flat you have behind the hoods. The TTT Forma has a very short reach. The Morphe has more of a
long reach. The reach and the stem length go together for positioning the hoods and hooks on a drop
bar. The tops will be in the same spot no matter what the reach on a drop bar.

Width of the drop bars is also important but this dimension is easily understood by everyone. Get
whatever width you like.

I've ridden flat bars and never found them to be very comfortable. The bar ends are not the same as
riding the hoods. The grip position is not as comfortable as riding the tops. If I had to ride a
mountain bike on the road for other than short rides, I'd go through the expense of putting a good
drop bar on it.