Changing tire size - Danger?

No problem. 25's might be a nicer ride, depending on the kind of riding you do, but 23's will work
no problem. The wider the tire, generally, the smoother the ride. But, it's up to you.

Cheers!

Scott..
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I am riding a pair of Rolf Vector wheels (not comp or pro). They came with 700x25c tires (IRC red
storm). I'd like to get a pair of Michellan Pro Race but all I can find on the web 700x23c.

Can

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I use a 23c tire on that Rolf Vector wheel that origonally came with a

25c?

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I'd like to ride with confidence and be sure about the fit.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thx

Scott,

I've road the 700x25c for 2 years... never road a 23c...

Have you road both? Noticeable difference?

Thanks, Joe

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No problem. 25's might be a nicer ride, depending on the kind of riding

you

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do, but 23's will work no problem. The wider the tire, generally, the smoother the ride. But, it's
up to you.

Cheers!

Scott..
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Scott Anderson

"Joe Caltagirone III" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I am riding a pair of Rolf Vector wheels (not comp or pro). They came with 700x25c tires (IRC
red storm). I'd like to get a pair of Michellan Pro Race but all I can find on the web 700x23c.

Can

Quoted message said:

I use a 23c tire on that Rolf Vector wheel that origonally came with a

25c?

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I'd like to ride with confidence and be sure about the fit.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thx

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I've road the 700x25c for 2 years... never road a 23c... Have you road both? Noticeable
difference?

23's have to be pumped up a little harder and have a harsher ride. Not too bad but the change from
23 to 20 is a HUGE change and riding 20's are like being on an iron wheel.

I've ridden everything from 38's down to 18's. I'd agree with Tom for the most part. Personally, my
concern is primarily with longevity and comfort. I personally like 25's and 28's. They're still fast
enough and they're much more comfortable. 28's are sometimes hard to fit on certain rims because of
their width. If you have nice roads and are a fairly light and experienced rider, 23's are probably
fine. If your roads are bumpy/potholed/seamed, you might want to stick with the 25's and shop around
until you find some.

Cheers,

Scott..
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"Joe Caltagirone III" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've road the 700x25c for 2 years... never road a 23c... Have you road both? Noticeable
difference?

23's have to be pumped up a little harder and have a harsher ride. Not too bad but the change from
23 to 20 is a HUGE change and riding 20's are like being on an iron wheel.

What is a good "25" tire? The only 25s I have seen in high quality tires are the Conti GP3000. I am
used to Axial Pro, Hutchinson (Gold?), Unltrasonics and Veloflex. I like a nice supple casing.

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I've ridden everything from 38's down to 18's. I'd agree with Tom for the most part. Personally,
my concern is primarily with longevity and

comfort.

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I personally like 25's and 28's. They're still fast enough and they're

much

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more comfortable. 28's are sometimes hard to fit on certain rims because

of

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their width. If you have nice roads and are a fairly light and

experienced

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rider, 23's are probably fine. If your roads are bumpy/potholed/seamed,

you

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might want to stick with the 25's and shop around until you find some.

Cheers,

Scott..
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Scott Anderson

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"Joe Caltagirone III" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've road the 700x25c for 2 years... never road a 23c... Have you road both? Noticeable
difference?

23's have to be pumped up a little harder and have a harsher ride. Not too bad but the change
from 23 to 20 is a HUGE change and riding 20's are like being on an iron wheel.

I've always liked the Avocet FasGrip 25's myself. But you can get Vittoria's and others in 25 as
well. Your perception of high quality may be slanted towards racing high quality. There are very
good high quality touring tires in 35c width as well. Again, usage sometimes dictates width
decisions.

Cheers!

Scott..
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What is a good "25" tire? The only 25s I have seen in high quality tires

are

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the Conti GP3000. I am used to Axial Pro, Hutchinson (Gold?), Unltrasonics and Veloflex. I like a
nice supple casing.

Do racers ride larger tires i.e. 25mm or 28mm or when racing do you ride a smaller tire like a
20mm? Monty

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I've ridden everything from 38's down to 18's. I'd agree with Tom for the most part. Personally,
my concern is primarily with longevity and

comfort.

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I personally like 25's and 28's. They're still fast enough and they're

much

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more comfortable. 28's are sometimes hard to fit on certain rims because

of

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their width. If you have nice roads and are a fairly light and

experienced

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rider, 23's are probably fine. If your roads are bumpy/potholed/seamed,

you

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might want to stick with the 25's and shop around until you find some.

Cheers,

Scott..
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Scott Anderson

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"Joe Caltagirone III" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've road the 700x25c for 2 years... never road a 23c... Have you road both? Noticeable
difference?

23's have to be pumped up a little harder and have a harsher ride. Not too bad but the change
from 23 to 20 is a HUGE change and riding 20's are like being on an iron wheel.

Generally, racers will ride the narrowest, highest-pressure tire they can, provided it is durable
enough and rideable enough for the course. This will provide the lowest rolling resistance generally
and that's what they want. In the "real world", that may not be entirely what you need though. I
personally race with 25's or 28's or whatever, primarily because I suck and can't be bothered
changing when I'm still going to finish in the back half.

Cheers!

Scott..
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Do racers ride larger tires i.e. 25mm or 28mm or when racing do you ride a smaller tire like a
20mm? Monty

LOL Thanks

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Generally, racers will ride the narrowest, highest-pressure tire they can, provided it is durable
enough and rideable enough for the course. This

will

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provide the lowest rolling resistance generally and that's what they want. In the "real world",
that may not be entirely what you need though. I personally race with 25's or 28's or whatever,
primarily because I suck

and

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can't be bothered changing when I'm still going to finish in the back

half.

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Cheers!

Scott..
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Do racers ride larger tires i.e. 25mm or 28mm or when racing do you ride

a

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smaller tire like a 20mm? Monty

Monty Montgomery said:

Do racers ride larger tires i.e. 25mm or 28mm or when racing do you ride a smaller tire
like a 20mm?

When I started out racing I was using 20mm. I was really thin and the tires didn't give me that
rough of a ride. I thought that thinner was better as far as racing is concerned and so for a season
rode on 18mm. I can't recall whether that was the year I enjoyed a lot of crashes, especially while
turning. However, for the last ten years I've ridden 23mm exclusively and find them to be ideal for
racing and training. In all that time I've only crashed twice, neither while turning.

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Avocet makes a really good 25. I actually like the 28's better since they are really 25's and the
25's are really 23's in Avocent-Speak.

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What is a good "25" tire? The only 25s I have seen in high quality

tires are

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the Conti GP3000. I am used to Axial Pro, Hutchinson (Gold?),

Unltrasonics

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and Veloflex. I like a nice supple casing.

"S. Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've ridden everything from 38's down to 18's. I'd agree with Tom

for the

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most part. Personally, my concern is primarily with longevity and

comfort.

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I personally like 25's and 28's. They're still fast enough and

they're

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much

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more comfortable. 28's are sometimes hard to fit on certain rims

because

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of

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their width. If you have nice roads and are a fairly light and

experienced

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rider, 23's are probably fine. If your roads are

bumpy/potholed/seamed,

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you

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might want to stick with the 25's and shop around until you find

some.

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Cheers,

Scott..
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> I've road the 700x25c for 2 years... never road a 23c... Have you road both? Noticeable
> difference?

23's have to be pumped up a little harder and have a harsher

ride. Not

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too bad but the change from 23 to 20 is a HUGE change and riding

20's

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are like being on an iron wheel.

Joe Caltagirone III said:

I am riding a pair of Rolf Vector wheels (not comp or pro). They came with 700x25c tires (IRC red
storm). I'd like to get a pair of Michellan Pro Race but all I can find on the web 700x23c. Can I
use a 23c tire on that Rolf Vector wheel that origonally came with a 25c?

No problem. BTW, actual tire width is often different than what's printed on the sidewall. I don't
know about the Red Storms, but the IRC Triathlons are labeled 700 x 25 but actually measure 23 mm.
Same for the older Avocets. The new Avocets "Carbon ?" are accurately labeled.

Art Harris

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Monty Montgomery said:

Do racers ride larger tires i.e. 25mm or 28mm or when racing do you ride a smaller tire like
a 20mm?

When I started out racing I was using 20mm. I was really thin and the tires didn't give me that
rough of a ride. I thought that thinner was better as far as racing is concerned and so for a
season rode on 18mm. I can't recall whether that was the year I enjoyed a lot of crashes,
especially while turning. However, for the last ten years I've ridden 23mm exclusively and find
them to be ideal for racing and training. In all that time I've only crashed twice, neither while
turning.

I use 23mm as well. On the rare occasion that I have a 19 or 20 (these were popular junk
primes...maybe still are...I haven't won a prime in a while), I stick it on the front. If I put it
on the rear, I flat more often. Riders without a fat ass may have different experience.