Changing room embarrasment desensitisation

"Sylvia Else" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

This notion was prompted by a discussion I had today with a friend.

Some people seem very uncomfortable with their temporary state of
undress in changing rooms. Sometimes they're trying to get changed under
a towel so as to avoid any exposure.

Don't you have cubicles?

At my pool we have a changing room with cubicles on one side and lockers
on the other. I will strip off down to my boxers in the open, putting my clothes
in the locker. Then I wlll retreat to the cubicle to put my swim-shorts on.
Yes, I am coy about appearing totally naked in public but what the heck,
the cubicle provided the easy solution!

Mike said:

"Sylvia Else" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

This notion was prompted by a discussion I had today with a friend.

Some people seem very uncomfortable with their temporary state of
undress in changing rooms. Sometimes they're trying to get changed under
a towel so as to avoid any exposure.

Don't you have cubicles?

At my pool we have a changing room with cubicles on one side and lockers
on the other. I will strip off down to my boxers in the open, putting my clothes
in the locker. Then I wlll retreat to the cubicle to put my swim-shorts on.
Yes, I am coy about appearing totally naked in public but what the heck,
the cubicle provided the easy solution!

Sometimes - not everywhere.

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else said:

This notion was prompted by a discussion I had today with a friend.

Some people seem very uncomfortable with their temporary state of
undress in changing rooms. Sometimes they're trying to get changed under
a towel so as to avoid any exposure.

From my own perspective as someone involved in naturism, such
discomfort seems quite unecessary, and it should be possible to
eliminate it.

I was wondering whether such people could be persuaded to attend classes
designed to desensitise them from the embarassement they experience, so
that they can be more relaxed about the process.

The classes would be single sex, and would involve getting people to
experience communal nudity as a way of getting them used to the
temporary nudity involved in changing rooms.

I would only be in a position to organise such classes in Sydney,
Australia, but I was looking for input as to how likely it is that
people would attend.

I'd be particularly interested in comments from those here who
themselves feel uncomfortable in changing rooms.

Sylvia.

I'm a little surprised that there's been so little response to this.
Does it mean that people here have no difficulty in changing rooms?

Life is complicated enough without unnecessary hangups. I'd have thought
that at least some people would have sufficient interest in ridding
themselves of one to make some comment, particularly with the benefit of
the anonymity provided by this medium (yes, I know that the law
enforcement authorities can get info, but that's not relevant here).

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else said:

I'm a little surprised that there's been so little response to this.
Does it mean that people here have no difficulty in changing rooms?

Life is complicated enough without unnecessary hangups. I'd have thought
that at least some people would have sufficient interest in ridding
themselves of one to make some comment, particularly with the benefit of
the anonymity provided by this medium (yes, I know that the law
enforcement authorities can get info, but that's not relevant here).

Sylvia.

Our neurotic-in-residence is Micheal Artindale. We always defer to his
judgement on the subject of exposure of the nether regions.

Other than that, we have found that people who are ashamed of the
human body, in particular their own, seldom become swimmers.

Martin Smith said:

Sylvia Else said:

I'm a little surprised that there's been so little response to this.
Does it mean that people here have no difficulty in changing rooms?

Life is complicated enough without unnecessary hangups. I'd have thought
that at least some people would have sufficient interest in ridding
themselves of one to make some comment, particularly with the benefit of
the anonymity provided by this medium (yes, I know that the law
enforcement authorities can get info, but that's not relevant here).

Sylvia.

Our neurotic-in-residence is Micheal Artindale. We always defer to his
judgement on the subject of exposure of the nether regions.

Other than that, we have found that people who are ashamed of the
human body, in particular their own, seldom become swimmers.

That's sad, but it does rather imply that I'm looking in the wrong place.

Is there an NG for non-swimmers?

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else said:

Martin Smith said:

Sylvia Else said:

I'm a little surprised that there's been so little response to this.
Does it mean that people here have no difficulty in changing rooms?

Life is complicated enough without unnecessary hangups. I'd have thought
that at least some people would have sufficient interest in ridding
themselves of one to make some comment, particularly with the benefit of
the anonymity provided by this medium (yes, I know that the law
enforcement authorities can get info, but that's not relevant here).

Sylvia.

Our neurotic-in-residence is Micheal Artindale. We always defer to his
judgement on the subject of exposure of the nether regions.

Other than that, we have found that people who are ashamed of the
human body, in particular their own, seldom become swimmers.

That's sad, but it does rather imply that I'm looking in the wrong place.

Is there an NG for non-swimmers?

I would say the people you want to reach are probably in the phobia
newsgroups. They might also be lurking here, but they aren't likely to
expose themselves, pun intended.

They would be more likely to reply to you directly, if you published
your email address here. But then you would be exposing yourself.

Martin Smith said:

Sylvia Else <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

I would say the people you want to reach are probably in the phobia
newsgroups. They might also be lurking here, but they aren't likely to
expose themselves, pun intended.

I think that people who have a problem with nudity strong enough to
prevent them from using the changing room wouldn't want to change it.

Nelson said:

Martin Smith said:

Sylvia Else <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

I would say the people you want to reach are probably in the phobia
newsgroups. They might also be lurking here, but they aren't likely to
expose themselves, pun intended.

I think that people who have a problem with nudity strong enough to
prevent them from using the changing room wouldn't want to change it.

If it's a moral position, yes, but if they just look like Dawn French,
then they probably just need help to actually *be* like Dawn French.

Martin Smith said:

They would be more likely to reply to you directly, if you published
your email address here. But then you would be exposing yourself.

Hey, I'm not exactly difficult to find - I post under my real name, and
I have a web site.

However, if you think my email address would help, it's

user name sylviaw73
domain cryogenic.net

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else said:

That's sad, but it does rather imply that I'm looking in the wrong place.

Is there an NG for non-swimmers?

There are close to 30,000 NGs--I suspect most of them are full of
non-swimmers. :-)

Dave Clary/Corpus Christi, Tx
Home: http://davidclary.com

Sylvia Else said:

This notion was prompted by a discussion I had today with a friend.

Some people seem very uncomfortable with their temporary state of
undress in changing rooms. Sometimes they're trying to get changed under
a towel so as to avoid any exposure.

From my own perspective as someone involved in naturism, such
discomfort seems quite unecessary, and it should be possible to
eliminate it.

I was wondering whether such people could be persuaded to attend classes
designed to desensitise them from the embarassement they experience, so
that they can be more relaxed about the process.

The classes would be single sex, and would involve getting people to
experience communal nudity as a way of getting them used to the
temporary nudity involved in changing rooms.

I would only be in a position to organise such classes in Sydney,
Australia, but I was looking for input as to how likely it is that
people would attend.

I'd be particularly interested in comments from those here who
themselves feel uncomfortable in changing rooms.

Sylvia.

Different places (pools/clubs) seem to have different changing room
culture.. and no I'm not talking fungi.
Having expericenced naturism myself, you'd think I'd never have a
problem with nudity.. and I don't.. yet, on arrival at a new venue, I
don't just strip off and stroll nakedly to the showers if the custom
seems to be all round towel changing. I'll at least hold the towel in
front of me as I go to the showers.
Could it be that some of the discomfort you witness relates to
conformity issues rather than nudity.
As for your nudity classes. Think again, or at least make sure of how
you word the advert. !!!
Even I would find it an uncomfortable and somewhat pervy to start
unzipping in a "class". Not to sure if it would make a difference to
be the only guy presented to a female class. But probably just as
sureal.
I would have thought those with that problem amongst their own gender,
will not find the idea of single sex classes attractive.
I wonder if those who are shy in changing rooms would also be just as
shy skinny dipping?

I'm usually a towel hider - for bottom half at least. Think its to do
with being ginger.... Yet I've been to a nudist beach and happily
stripped on several occasions.
Work that one out?

Sylvia Else said:

This notion was prompted by a discussion I had today with a friend.

Some people seem very uncomfortable with their temporary state of
undress in changing rooms. Sometimes they're trying to get changed under
a towel so as to avoid any exposure.

From my own perspective as someone involved in naturism, such
discomfort seems quite unecessary, and it should be possible to
eliminate it.

I was wondering whether such people could be persuaded to attend classes
designed to desensitise them from the embarassement they experience, so
that they can be more relaxed about the process.

The classes would be single sex, and would involve getting people to
experience communal nudity as a way of getting them used to the
temporary nudity involved in changing rooms.

I would only be in a position to organise such classes in Sydney,
Australia, but I was looking for input as to how likely it is that
people would attend.

I'd be particularly interested in comments from those here who
themselves feel uncomfortable in changing rooms.

Sylvia.

People who have trouble with brief nudity in the changing room would be
likely to have a lot of trouble with wearing swimsuits, period. Lots of
people avoid swimming purely because you have to wear a swimsuit to do
it. If you are serious about desensitizing people, then you first need
to desensitize them to that. And before they appear in front of other
people in their swimsuits, there would need to be some sort of
identification of the issues--weight, shame, etc. that are the root
cause for each individual.
Madelaine

Martin Smith said:

Sylvia Else said:

Martin Smith said:

Sylvia Else <[email hidden]> wrote:

> I'm a little surprised that there's been so little response to this.
> Does it mean that people here have no difficulty in changing rooms?
>
> Life is complicated enough without unnecessary hangups. I'd have thought
> that at least some people would have sufficient interest in ridding
> themselves of one to make some comment, particularly with the benefit of
> the anonymity provided by this medium (yes, I know that the law
> enforcement authorities can get info, but that's not relevant here).
>
> Sylvia.

Our neurotic-in-residence is Micheal Artindale. We always defer to his
judgement on the subject of exposure of the nether regions.

Other than that, we have found that people who are ashamed of the
human body, in particular their own, seldom become swimmers.

That's sad, but it does rather imply that I'm looking in the wrong place.

Is there an NG for non-swimmers?

I would say the people you want to reach are probably in the phobia
newsgroups. They might also be lurking here, but they aren't likely to
expose themselves, pun intended.

They would be more likely to reply to you directly, if you published
your email address here. But then you would be exposing yourself.

You're just not taking this problem seriously are you......
Good luck with your class 'Sylvia'....