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changing from 45 to 43 fork rake?

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  1. I have just been offered a Reynolds Ouzo Pro fork at a very good price to
    replace my heavier Bontager Carbon Race. I also like the thought of the
    better dampening with the carbon steerer on the Reynolds. The problem is
    that the Reynolds has a 43 rake and the Bontrager has 45.

    If I swapped the forks how would this effect handling? Is this even a wise
    idea.

    Thanks in advance.

  2. gsk said:

    I have just been offered a Reynolds Ouzo Pro fork at a very good
    price to replace my heavier Bontager Carbon Race. I also like the
    thought of the better dampening with the carbon steerer on the
    Reynolds. The problem is that the Reynolds has a 43 rake and the
    Bontrager has 45.

    If I swapped the forks how would this effect handling? Is this even a
    wise idea.

    If anything it would make the bike more stable, but that's such a small
    difference I doubt you'd notice it. A different brand of tire would probably
    make a bigger difference in handling.

    The main reason my Klein is so stable is its 35mm offset -- definately out of
    the mainstream. Still, it's not that big a difference.

    If you'll excuse my butting in, I think you're wasting your money. You might
    shave a few ounces off your bike, but that's about it. The dampening idea is
    BS. If that's what you want, buy a bigger/better tire. Also, is this a brand
    new fork? Used carbon forks could have been crashed, with serious damage that
    doesn't show. Don't touch them unless you're confident of their history.

    The only reason to buy a new fork is to correct a handling problem, or possibly
    to shave a little weight. If you like the way it looks that's fine too.

    Matt O.

  3. Matt O'Toole said:

    If anything it would make the bike more stable, but that's such a small
    difference I doubt you'd notice it. A different brand of tire would probably
    make a bigger difference in handling.

    As long as he doesn't get too wet from all that dampening.

    Art Harris

  4. gsk said:

    I have just been offered a Reynolds Ouzo Pro fork at a very good


    price to

    Quoted message said:

    replace my heavier Bontager Carbon Race. I also like the thought of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    better dampening with the carbon steerer on the Reynolds. The problem


    is

    Quoted message said:

    that the Reynolds has a 43 rake and the Bontrager has 45.

    If I swapped the forks how would this effect handling? Is this even a


    wise

    Quoted message said:

    idea.

    Less offset (rake) equals more stability. You probably won't notice the
    difference unless you're sensitive to the pressure it takes to turn the
    bike and are doing many turns (think criteriums).

    Jeff

  5. On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:46:00 GMT, Harris <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Matt O'Toole said:

    If anything it would make the bike more stable, but that's such a small
    difference I doubt you'd notice it. A different brand of tire would probably
    make a bigger difference in handling.

    As long as he doesn't get too wet from all that dampening.

    That's why they make saddles with slots and holes in them.

    Drainage.

    Ron
    I can't believe I just.....

  6. RonSonic said:

    On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:46:00 GMT, Harris <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Matt O'Toole said:

    If anything it would make the bike more stable, but that's such a small
    difference I doubt you'd notice it. A different brand of tire would probably
    make a bigger difference in handling.

    I'd be downright impressed if anyone could identify which was which on
    two otherwise identical bikes. I'll wager if I told 50 people the fork
    with less rake was twitchier, 40 of them would feel it (even though
    less rake would make the bike more stable). I certainly wouldn't
    worry about the difference... based on some blind testing that was
    done a long time ago, I'd expect a few psi more or less in the front
    tire to make a more radical difference.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As long as he doesn't get too wet from all that dampening.

    Heh... (though contrary to what I thought a year ago, "dampening" is
    also proper usage when you're talking about what we normally prefer to
    call "damping"... not that we should stop making wet jokes, of
    course).

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $695 ti frame

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