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  1. Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone could offer any advice/recommendations on
    what I can do to increase muscle mass. I've been an avid weight lifter
    for close to a year now and my strength has increased, no doubt, and I
    do look a bit bigge but I'm still seeing myself as lanky. My week
    workout consists of:

    Sunday - cardio, situps, pushups
    Monday - Chest, Biceps and Triceps w/ Dumbells (flat bench, incline,
    curls)
    Tuesday - Lower Back, and Upper Back (military press, lateral, pull
    ups)
    Wednesday - Legs (squats, hack squats, leg curls and extensions)
    Thursday - Chest, Bicep adn Triceps w/ bars (bench press, alternating
    incline and decline every other week, curls)
    Friday - rest day
    Saturday - cardio, situps and pushups

    As far as meals go, I eat 3x a day and its usally always the same
    thing. Breakfast (which consists of a meal and a snack before the
    workout) I'll have a muffin, low fat yogurt, 2% milk, and a banana.
    Lunch its either a tuna sandwich (made myself using mayo and salmon) on
    whole wheat with fruit and freshly squeezed OJ, chicken breast sandwich
    with same snack and drink, or pasta. Dinner, since I'm Asian, consists
    of rice, and usually fish, poultry, pork chops, what have you. I can
    feel a little guilty over dinner.

    I weigh in at 192 lbs though I don't look a bit like it. I do have
    larger than average calves and thighs so I'm guessing its all there,
    heh. THere is some shape. My abs and stomach are relatively flat though
    not cut or chiseled and there's some definition on my arms but not
    bulging or vein popping. 🙂

    AmI not being patient enough I guess? Should I changeup my diet? or
    take supplemments? I was taking whey protein with apple juice for a
    time but I didn't feel any different so I sort of put a stop. Should I
    go back on it?

    Any adivce is appreciated. Thanks.

  2. raazdeth said:

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone could offer any advice/recommendations on
    what I can do to increase muscle mass. I've been an avid weight lifter
    for close to a year now and my strength has increased, no doubt, and I
    do look a bit bigge but I'm still seeing myself as lanky. My week
    workout consists of:

    Sunday - cardio, situps, pushups
    Monday - Chest, Biceps and Triceps w/ Dumbells (flat bench, incline,
    curls)
    Tuesday - Lower Back, and Upper Back (military press, lateral, pull
    ups)
    Wednesday - Legs (squats, hack squats, leg curls and extensions)
    Thursday - Chest, Bicep adn Triceps w/ bars (bench press, alternating
    incline and decline every other week, curls)
    Friday - rest day
    Saturday - cardio, situps and pushups

    I curious about the number of sets & reps that you do, and if you are
    making regular increases in resistance. Also, how tall are you?

    jP

  3. raazdeth said:

    As far as meals go, I eat 3x a day and its usally always
    the same thing.

    Eating 5-6 smaller meals a day is said to be better than three larger
    meals a day - fuels your body better. Variety in food choices avoids
    burnout.

    Quoted message said:

    Breakfast (which consists of a meal and a snack before the
    workout) I'll have a muffin, low fat yogurt, 2% milk, and a banana.

    About 85% carbs and 15% protein. Why bother eating a lowfat yogurt if
    you are drinking 2% milk? Check your fat content of muffin too (may be
    an eye opener) and many yogurts also have too much sugar in them. You
    could be making better choices here.

    Quoted message said:

    Lunch its either a tuna sandwich (made myself using mayo and
    salmon) on whole wheat with fruit and freshly squeezed OJ,
    chicken breast sandwich with same snack and drink,

    About 75% carbs and 25% protein. Nix the OJ and eat the orange.

    Quoted message said:

    or pasta.

    Carb heavy - could be eating vegetables in here somewhere instead.

    Quoted message said:

    Dinner, since I'm Asian, consists> of rice, and usually fish,
    poultry, pork chops, what have you.

    Less rice, more vegetables and more protein.

    Overall you need more protein and less useless carbs, replaced with
    other denser nutrient carbs (oatmeal, yams, green vegetables etc) Good
    nutrition is usually a missing component when people cant reach their
    goals.

    joanne

  4. Raaz,
    This is all my experience, but in my latest comeback I have put on
    about 20 pounds in around 3 months (okay a little is in the belly, but
    I've gained a lot of strength too). It looks like you aren't eating as
    much as you probably need to be to be adding mass. I eat my three
    meals but also drink a protein smoothie morning and night. I also
    snack on trail mix at work. I also eat a preworkout meal. I joke
    about my eating now by refering to Lord of the Rings when the Hobbits
    can't understand that when they are traveling they won't be eating as
    much, they mention breakfast and then late breakfast, then early lunch,
    etc (if you've seen the movie its a funny scene).
    You are also working out a lot which is helping your fitness but
    probably not adding the mass as much as 3 or 4 intense workouts a week
    with good rest in between. On cardio days I would cut the pushups out
    to give your chest rest. Your workout also overlaps pushing and
    pulling exercises. I prefer to split my upper body into pushing
    exercises and pulling exercises. Therefore I would do chest with
    triceps on one workout (bench, incline, dips, military press) and then
    do another workout with back (cleans, pulldowns, pull-ups, rows,
    biceps). I feel that this helps prevent overtraining by giving muscles
    more rest than overlapping workouts do.
    You don't mention your reps or number of sets. I would recommend
    lifting pretty heavy not more than ten reps most sets. I also would
    recommend an intense workout around an hour in length followed by a
    smoothie and more eating. Hey you asked about adding mass.

    James

  5. raazdeth said:

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone could offer any advice/recommendations on
    what I can do to increase muscle mass. I've been an avid weight lifter
    for close to a year now and my strength has increased, no doubt, and I
    do look a bit bigge but I'm still seeing myself as lanky. My week
    workout consists of:

    Sunday - cardio, situps, pushups
    Monday - Chest, Biceps and Triceps w/ Dumbells (flat bench, incline,
    curls)
    Tuesday - Lower Back, and Upper Back (military press, lateral, pull
    ups)
    Wednesday - Legs (squats, hack squats, leg curls and extensions)
    Thursday - Chest, Bicep adn Triceps w/ bars (bench press, alternating
    incline and decline every other week, curls)
    Friday - rest day
    Saturday - cardio, situps and pushups

    Cardio will make you smaller. Calisthenics don't help. If you did a whole body
    routine twice a week you'd be better off, IMHO. Squat, press, sldl, crunch, chin.

    Quoted message said:


    As far as meals go, I eat 3x a day and its usally always the same
    thing. Breakfast (which consists of a meal and a snack before the
    workout) I'll have a muffin, low fat yogurt, 2% milk, and a banana.
    Lunch its either a tuna sandwich (made myself using mayo and salmon) on
    whole wheat with fruit and freshly squeezed OJ, chicken breast sandwich
    with same snack and drink, or pasta. Dinner, since I'm Asian, consists
    of rice, and usually fish, poultry, pork chops, what have you. I can
    feel a little guilty over dinner.

    Meat and dairy and calories will make you bigger. It'll be mostly muscle if
    you're lifting heavy. Veggies are good for you - relish in the tuna salad, even.

    Quoted message said:


    I weigh in at 192 lbs though I don't look a bit like it. I do have
    larger than average calves and thighs so I'm guessing its all there,
    heh. THere is some shape. My abs and stomach are relatively flat though
    not cut or chiseled and there's some definition on my arms but not
    bulging or vein popping. 🙂

  6. I agree with T on the workout frequency but I wouldn't really recommend
    getting away from cardio since it is good for you health even though it
    will not help you in getting bigger. The strongest I ever got happened
    when I was so busy at school that I usually only had time for one
    monster workout a week for several months. I kept getting stronger and
    stronger. I would say that limiting to three workouts a week would be
    okay.
    I feel that it is hard to gain muscle mass while trying to maintain a
    totally lean physique. It can be done but it is easier to give your
    body a calorie cushion so that it doesn't ever catabolize muscle.
    After the muscle is built then you can work on cutting the cushion.
    All this is my opinion.

  7. raazdeth said:

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone could offer any advice/recommendations on
    what I can do to increase muscle mass. I've been an avid weight lifter
    for close to a year now and my strength has increased, no doubt, and I
    do look a bit bigge but I'm still seeing myself as lanky. My week
    workout consists of:

    Sunday - cardio, situps, pushups

    None of these will do anything for large mass gains. I'd drop them
    entirely and call it a rest day.

    Quoted message said:

    Monday - Chest, Biceps and Triceps w/ Dumbells (flat bench, incline,
    curls)
    Tuesday - Lower Back, and Upper Back (military press, lateral, pull
    ups)
    Wednesday - Legs (squats, hack squats, leg curls and extensions)
    Thursday - Chest, Bicep adn Triceps w/ bars (bench press, alternating
    incline and decline every other week, curls)
    Friday - rest day
    Saturday - cardio, situps and pushups

    As far as meals go, I eat 3x a day and its usally always the same
    thing. Breakfast (which consists of a meal and a snack before the
    workout) I'll have a muffin, low fat yogurt, 2% milk, and a banana.
    Lunch its either a tuna sandwich (made myself using mayo and salmon) on
    whole wheat with fruit and freshly squeezed OJ, chicken breast sandwich
    with same snack and drink, or pasta. Dinner, since I'm Asian, consists
    of rice, and usually fish, poultry, pork chops, what have you. I can
    feel a little guilty over dinner.

    This group has consistently answered questions like yours with feedback
    something like this:

    If you want to add muscle mass:
    1. Eat a lot.
    2. Lift heavy with compound exercises.
    3. Get enough rest.

    Quoted message said:


    I weigh in at 192 lbs though I don't look a bit like it. I do have
    larger than average calves and thighs so I'm guessing its all there,
    heh. THere is some shape. My abs and stomach are relatively flat though
    not cut or chiseled and there's some definition on my arms but not
    bulging or vein popping. 🙂

    Words like "cut" "chiseled" and "definition" all have to do with low
    bodyfat - not large muscles. In the time tested tradition of all
    bodybuilders, you need to add muscle first, then lose fat while trying
    to maintain your muscle in order to show it off. Then the cycle
    repeats when you want more muscle.

    Quoted message said:


    AmI not being patient enough I guess? Should I changeup my diet? or
    take supplemments? I was taking whey protein with apple juice for a
    time but I didn't feel any different so I sort of put a stop. Should I
    go back on it?

    Just lift heavy, eat large, and get your rest.

    When you're a big, strong, heavy-duty fatass, then you can come back
    and ask how to diet off the fat.

    - bc


  8. Quoted message said:


    I curious about the number of sets & reps that you do, and if you are
    making regular increases in resistance. Also, how tall are you?

    jP

    Thanks for all of the replies. It looks like my diet is the main
    culprit. Regarding the sets I do, its usually 3 sets of 10 reps with
    every exercise (with weight increasing each set depending on the
    exercise), unless I go heavy then its limited to 5 to 7 reps depending
    how much I can do.

    And I'm 5'11".

  9. "raazdeth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone could offer any advice/recommendations on
    what I can do to increase muscle mass. I've been an avid weight lifter
    for close to a year now and my strength has increased, no doubt, and I
    do look a bit bigge but I'm still seeing myself as lanky. My week
    workout consists of:

    If you want my advice: do longer workouts. If you want more mass, you have
    to learn how to pay THE PRICE. If you want to become as big as Arnold
    Schwarzenegger, you have to do what he did. Here is a sample of his workout
    routine:

    http://www.askmen.com/sports/bodybuilding_60/69c_fitness_tip.html

    Mon, Wed, Fri

    Chest:
    Bench press - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Flat bench flies - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Incline bench press - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Cable crossovers - 6 sets, 10-12 reps
    Dips - 5 sets, to failure
    Dumbbell pullovers - 5 sets, 10-12 reps

    Back:
    Front wide-grip chin-ups - 6 sets, to failure
    T-bar rows - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Seated pulley rows - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    One-arm dumbbell rows - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Straight-leg deadlifts - 6 sets, 15 reps

    Legs:
    Squats - 6 sets, 8-12 reps
    Leg presses - 6 sets, 8-12 reps
    Leg extensions - 6 sets, 12-15 reps
    Leg curls - 6 sets, 10-12 reps
    Barbell lunges - 5 sets, 15 reps

    Calves:
    Standing calf raises -10 sets, 10 reps
    Seated calf raises - 8 sets, 15 reps
    One-legged calf raises (holding dumbbells) - 6 sets,12 reps

    Forearms:
    Wrist curls (forearms on knees) - 4 sets, 10 reps
    Reverse barbell curls - 4 sets, 8 reps
    Wright roller machine - to failure

    Abs:
    Nonstop instinct training for 30 minutes

    Tues, Thurs, Sat

    Biceps:
    Barbell curls - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Seated dumbbell curls - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Dumbbell concentration curls - 6 sets, 6-10 reps

    Triceps:
    Close-grip bench presses (for the all three heads) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Pushdowns (exterior head) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Barbell French presses (interior head) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    One-arm dumbbell triceps extensions (exterior head) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps

    Shoulders:
    Seated barbell presses - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Lateral raises (standing) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Rear-delt lateral raises - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Cable lateral raises - 5 sets, 10-12 reps

    Calves and Forearms:
    Same as Monday, Wednesday and Friday

    Abs:
    Same as Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

    Remember: more is better. Don't be tempted by the HIT low-volume propaganda
    on the internet. Why do so many disillusioned people advocate HIT? It is
    an easy way out. They somehow believe that by doing _less_ work, they will
    achieve greater muscle gains. This absurd proposition completely negates
    all of the theories taught in higher education regarding physiology and
    fitness.

    Devotees of HIT will advocate that muscle potential is largely genetic.
    They believe that no matter how much you train, some people cannot achieve
    the muscle mass of professional bodybuilders. I am a true believer of that
    great wise teacher, Dr. Martin Luther King. That everyone is equal and that
    there are no inherent
    distinctions between the races (and sexes I might add.)

    If you want to be more politically correct and build more muscle mass, do
    what Arnold did and what the Weider magazines tell you.

    So, what are you waiting for? Go to the gym and blast those muscles,
    PRONTO!!!!!

  10. "Tavington" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "raazdeth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone could offer any advice/recommendations on
    what I can do to increase muscle mass. I've been an avid weight lifter
    for close to a year now and my strength has increased, no doubt, and I
    do look a bit bigge but I'm still seeing myself as lanky. My week
    workout consists of:

    If you want my advice: do longer workouts. If you want more mass, you


    have

    Quoted message said:

    to learn how to pay THE PRICE. If you want to become as big as Arnold
    Schwarzenegger, you have to do what he did. Here is a sample of his


    workout

    Quoted message said:

    routine:

    http://www.askmen.com/sports/bodybuilding_60/69c_fitness_tip.html

    Mon, Wed, Fri

    Chest:
    Bench press - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Flat bench flies - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Incline bench press - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Cable crossovers - 6 sets, 10-12 reps
    Dips - 5 sets, to failure
    Dumbbell pullovers - 5 sets, 10-12 reps

    Back:
    Front wide-grip chin-ups - 6 sets, to failure
    T-bar rows - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Seated pulley rows - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    One-arm dumbbell rows - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Straight-leg deadlifts - 6 sets, 15 reps

    Legs:
    Squats - 6 sets, 8-12 reps
    Leg presses - 6 sets, 8-12 reps
    Leg extensions - 6 sets, 12-15 reps
    Leg curls - 6 sets, 10-12 reps
    Barbell lunges - 5 sets, 15 reps

    Calves:
    Standing calf raises -10 sets, 10 reps
    Seated calf raises - 8 sets, 15 reps
    One-legged calf raises (holding dumbbells) - 6 sets,12 reps

    Forearms:
    Wrist curls (forearms on knees) - 4 sets, 10 reps
    Reverse barbell curls - 4 sets, 8 reps
    Wright roller machine - to failure

    Abs:
    Nonstop instinct training for 30 minutes

    Tues, Thurs, Sat

    Biceps:
    Barbell curls - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Seated dumbbell curls - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Dumbbell concentration curls - 6 sets, 6-10 reps

    Triceps:
    Close-grip bench presses (for the all three heads) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Pushdowns (exterior head) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Barbell French presses (interior head) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    One-arm dumbbell triceps extensions (exterior head) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps

    Shoulders:
    Seated barbell presses - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Lateral raises (standing) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Rear-delt lateral raises - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Cable lateral raises - 5 sets, 10-12 reps

    Calves and Forearms:
    Same as Monday, Wednesday and Friday

    Abs:
    Same as Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

    Remember: more is better. Don't be tempted by the HIT low-volume


    propaganda

    Quoted message said:

    on the internet. Why do so many disillusioned people advocate HIT? It


    is

    Quoted message said:

    an easy way out. They somehow believe that by doing _less_ work, they


    will

    Quoted message said:

    achieve greater muscle gains. This absurd proposition completely negates
    all of the theories taught in higher education regarding physiology and
    fitness.

    Devotees of HIT will advocate that muscle potential is largely genetic.
    They believe that no matter how much you train, some people cannot achieve
    the muscle mass of professional bodybuilders. I am a true believer of


    that

    Quoted message said:

    great wise teacher, Dr. Martin Luther King. That everyone is equal and


    that

    Quoted message said:

    there are no inherent
    distinctions between the races (and sexes I might add.)

    If you want to be more politically correct and build more muscle mass, do
    what Arnold did and what the Weider magazines tell you.

    So, what are you waiting for? Go to the gym and blast those muscles,
    PRONTO!!!!!


    Seems like good advice Tavington, however am after those long lean muscles -
    not those ghastly bulging ones. Will this program do that??

  11. If you're going to follow this advice, also don't forget to take MORE steroids!

    Tavington said:

    "raazdeth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone could offer any advice/recommendations on
    what I can do to increase muscle mass. I've been an avid weight lifter
    for close to a year now and my strength has increased, no doubt, and I
    do look a bit bigge but I'm still seeing myself as lanky. My week
    workout consists of:

    If you want my advice: do longer workouts. If you want more mass, you have
    to learn how to pay THE PRICE. If you want to become as big as Arnold
    Schwarzenegger, you have to do what he did. Here is a sample of his workout
    routine:

    http://www.askmen.com/sports/bodybuilding_60/69c_fitness_tip.html

    Mon, Wed, Fri

    Chest:
    Bench press - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Flat bench flies - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Incline bench press - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Cable crossovers - 6 sets, 10-12 reps
    Dips - 5 sets, to failure
    Dumbbell pullovers - 5 sets, 10-12 reps

    Back:
    Front wide-grip chin-ups - 6 sets, to failure
    T-bar rows - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Seated pulley rows - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    One-arm dumbbell rows - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Straight-leg deadlifts - 6 sets, 15 reps

    Legs:
    Squats - 6 sets, 8-12 reps
    Leg presses - 6 sets, 8-12 reps
    Leg extensions - 6 sets, 12-15 reps
    Leg curls - 6 sets, 10-12 reps
    Barbell lunges - 5 sets, 15 reps

    Calves:
    Standing calf raises -10 sets, 10 reps
    Seated calf raises - 8 sets, 15 reps
    One-legged calf raises (holding dumbbells) - 6 sets,12 reps

    Forearms:
    Wrist curls (forearms on knees) - 4 sets, 10 reps
    Reverse barbell curls - 4 sets, 8 reps
    Wright roller machine - to failure

    Abs:
    Nonstop instinct training for 30 minutes

    Tues, Thurs, Sat

    Biceps:
    Barbell curls - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Seated dumbbell curls - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Dumbbell concentration curls - 6 sets, 6-10 reps

    Triceps:
    Close-grip bench presses (for the all three heads) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Pushdowns (exterior head) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Barbell French presses (interior head) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    One-arm dumbbell triceps extensions (exterior head) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps

    Shoulders:
    Seated barbell presses - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Lateral raises (standing) - 6 sets, 6-10 reps
    Rear-delt lateral raises - 5 sets, 6-10 reps
    Cable lateral raises - 5 sets, 10-12 reps

    Calves and Forearms:
    Same as Monday, Wednesday and Friday

    Abs:
    Same as Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

    Remember: more is better. Don't be tempted by the HIT low-volume propaganda
    on the internet. Why do so many disillusioned people advocate HIT? It is
    an easy way out. They somehow believe that by doing _less_ work, they will
    achieve greater muscle gains. This absurd proposition completely negates
    all of the theories taught in higher education regarding physiology and
    fitness.

    Devotees of HIT will advocate that muscle potential is largely genetic.
    They believe that no matter how much you train, some people cannot achieve
    the muscle mass of professional bodybuilders. I am a true believer of that
    great wise teacher, Dr. Martin Luther King. That everyone is equal and that
    there are no inherent
    distinctions between the races (and sexes I might add.)

    If you want to be more politically correct and build more muscle mass, do
    what Arnold did and what the Weider magazines tell you.

    So, what are you waiting for? Go to the gym and blast those muscles,
    PRONTO!!!!!

    --
    Martin Shuster

    martin dot shuster at aya dot yale dot edu

  12. raazdeth said:

    Hi all,
    I was wondering if anyone could offer any
    advice/recommendations on what I can do to
    increase muscle mass. I've been an avid weight
    lifter for close to a year now and my strength
    has increased, no doubt, and I do look a bit
    bigge but I'm still seeing myself as lanky. My
    week workout consists of:

    Your real problem, as far as I can see, is that you're doing way
    too much. You should be working out more like three days a week, not
    six. Needless to say, either, you can't be doing upper body pushing
    excercises like push-ups one day, then benching the next, and then
    military presses the next for three days in a row. Limit this to one
    primary excercise, one day per week, with maybe a little (1-3 sets) of
    secondary/assistance excercises.
    As a natural trainer (and I'm assuming you are considering you're
    toying with the idea of even taking supplements), your number one
    priority in the type and form of excercises you choose is increasing
    hormonal response, *not* localized muscle stimulation. The type of
    routine you describe will do virtually nothing to elicit hormonal
    response and a natural person cannot recover from that much volume of
    excercise. Remember, testosterone gets you big muscles, not a gizillion
    reps directed at this or that specific muscle. Doing all the sets of
    curls in the world isn't going to do much to get you big biceps if you
    haven't done what it takes to get he old 'nads turning out extra
    hormones. That's your real battle, not what you can do for this or that
    muscle group. This is the exact opposite of the situation for drug
    users. They don't even need to consider this stuff at all. Joe
    Juiceheads w/o in "FLEX", where he's doing 60 reps per bodypart isn't
    going to do a thing for you.
    Essentially, for a natural person, heavy compound excercises are
    your steroids. If you want to get big and strong, you need to be lifting
    weight, not doing aerobics with a barbell. 5-7 reps per set is most
    expressly not heavy training. That's mid-high end. "Heavy" is singles or
    doubles. You also need to lose the foo-foo excercises, like leg curls,
    and add in more meat and potatoes movements like power cleans,
    deadlifts, etc.
    Your routine should consist of one
    primary excercise per w/o, with maybe a couple sets of one or two
    secondary/assistance excercises. For example, Monday back squats;
    Wednesday standing presses; Friday power cleans. When you feel this
    getting stale, you change it up to something like Monday front squats;
    Wednesday bench presses; Friday deadlifta. As far as sets/reps go, you
    can't go wrong with the classic five sets of five reps as a base.
    As far as eating goes, beyond the obvious of getting enough protein
    and vitamins/minerals, drop low-fat anything. Maybe the pundits can
    weigh in on this, but I don't, personally, know of anyone who ever
    gained any considerable mass eating a low fat diet, and I have read
    articles to the effect that a low fat diet can be detrimental to
    testosterone production in males.
    Whether that is the culprit, and/or the lack of added calories, I don't
    know, but forget low-fat.
    You also need to eat a *lot*. Albeit, you can't keep this up for an
    extended period before you will just start to get fat instead, but you
    do need to have periods (3-5 weeks) where you are really, really chowing
    down. Use weight-gainer shakes if that helps, but you do need to pack
    the calories in. Suffice it to say 200 or 300 extra calories a day is
    not going to cut it. You gotta eat a lot. Give yourself enough time to
    digest each meal though. Proper digestion is important-don't just be
    continuously stuffing your face all day long.
    Sleep is also just as important. Plenty of sleep is an absolute
    must. This isn't something many people talk about, but it's just as
    important as anything else. If you aren't getting enough sack time and
    proper rest, everything else you're doing is being compromised, make no
    mistake about it.

  13. FourCorners said:
    raazdeth said:

    Hi all,
    I was wondering if anyone could offer any
    advice/recommendations on what I can do to
    increase muscle mass. I've been an avid weight
    lifter for close to a year now and my strength
    has increased, no doubt, and I do look a bit
    bigge but I'm still seeing myself as lanky. My
    week workout consists of:

    Your real problem, as far as I can see, is that you're doing way
    too much. You should be working out more like three days a week, not
    six. Needless to say, either, you can't be doing upper body pushing
    excercises like push-ups one day, then benching the next, and then
    military presses the next for three days in a row. Limit this to one
    primary excercise, one day per week, with maybe a little (1-3 sets) of
    secondary/assistance excercises.
    As a natural trainer (and I'm assuming you are considering you're
    toying with the idea of even taking supplements), your number one
    priority in the type and form of excercises you choose is increasing
    hormonal response, *not* localized muscle stimulation. The type of
    routine you describe will do virtually nothing to elicit hormonal
    response and a natural person cannot recover from that much volume of
    excercise. Remember, testosterone gets you big muscles, not a
    gizillion reps directed at this or that specific muscle. Doing all
    the sets of curls in the world isn't going to do much to get you big
    biceps if you haven't done what it takes to get he old 'nads turning
    out extra hormones. That's your real battle, not what you can do for
    this or that muscle group. This is the exact opposite of the
    situation for drug users. They don't even need to consider this stuff
    at all. Joe Juiceheads w/o in "FLEX", where he's doing 60 reps per
    bodypart isn't going to do a thing for you.
    Essentially, for a natural person, heavy compound excercises are
    your steroids. If you want to get big and strong, you need to be
    lifting weight, not doing aerobics with a barbell. 5-7 reps per set
    is most expressly not heavy training. That's mid-high end. "Heavy" is
    singles or doubles. You also need to lose the foo-foo excercises,
    like leg curls, and add in more meat and potatoes movements like
    power cleans, deadlifts, etc.
    Your routine should consist of one
    primary excercise per w/o, with maybe a couple sets of one or two
    secondary/assistance excercises. For example, Monday back squats;
    Wednesday standing presses; Friday power cleans. When you feel this
    getting stale, you change it up to something like Monday front squats;
    Wednesday bench presses; Friday deadlifta. As far as sets/reps go, you
    can't go wrong with the classic five sets of five reps as a base.
    As far as eating goes, beyond the obvious of getting enough
    protein and vitamins/minerals, drop low-fat anything. Maybe the
    pundits can weigh in on this, but I don't, personally, know of anyone
    who ever gained any considerable mass eating a low fat diet, and I
    have read articles to the effect that a low fat diet can be
    detrimental to testosterone production in males.
    Whether that is the culprit, and/or the lack of added calories, I
    don't know, but forget low-fat.
    You also need to eat a *lot*. Albeit, you can't keep this up for an
    extended period before you will just start to get fat instead, but you
    do need to have periods (3-5 weeks) where you are really, really
    chowing down. Use weight-gainer shakes if that helps, but you do need
    to pack the calories in. Suffice it to say 200 or 300 extra calories
    a day is not going to cut it. You gotta eat a lot. Give yourself
    enough time to digest each meal though. Proper digestion is
    important-don't just be continuously stuffing your face all day long.
    Sleep is also just as important. Plenty of sleep is an absolute
    must. This isn't something many people talk about, but it's just as
    important as anything else. If you aren't getting enough sack time and
    proper rest, everything else you're doing is being compromised, make
    no mistake about it.

    Wow...actually decent advice. Could it be mfw is getting some people again
    that actually know something to help offset Joanne's [censored]?
    --
    -Larry

  14. joanne said:
    Larry Hodges said:

    Wow...actually decent advice. Could it be mfw is getting some
    people again that actually know something to help offset Joanne's
    [censored]?

    No it offssets your lame pathetic attitude ...

    joanne

    Does this mean we're not going to date?
    --
    -Larry

  15. raazdeth said:

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone could offer any advice/recommendations on
    what I can do to increase muscle mass.

    Eat more.

    --
    Helgi Briem hbriem AT simnet DOT is

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