Change in body odour

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Alan said:

Since starting on my low carb diet/journey/experiment/whatever you wish
to call it, I've noticed a slight change in my body odour.

A slightly cheesy, cabbagey smell. Sometimes present on my breath but
also in my sweat.

Is this common? It's not a hygiene issue at all, I'm 100% certain of
that. I can only attribute this to my modified diet, since nothing
else has changed.

Alan
(very embarrassed)

Try drinking a LOT more water to dilute it out.
I tend to get more of an ammonia smell to my sweat.
If I drink more water (and use my Torosemide more)
I have less of a problem with it.

HTH?
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Alan wrote:
:: Since starting on my low carb diet/journey/experiment/whatever you
:: wish to call it, I've noticed a slight change in my body odour.
::
:: A slightly cheesy, cabbagey smell. Sometimes present on my breath
:: but also in my sweat.
::
:: Is this common? It's not a hygiene issue at all, I'm 100% certain of
:: that. I can only attribute this to my modified diet, since nothing
:: else has changed.
::
:: Alan
:: (very embarrassed)

Ketones....

Drink more water....it should pass in time, though.

Alan said:

Since starting on my low carb diet/journey/experiment/whatever you wish
to call it, I've noticed a slight change in my body odour.

A slightly cheesy, cabbagey smell. Sometimes present on my breath but
also in my sweat.

Is this common? It's not a hygiene issue at all, I'm 100% certain of
that. I can only attribute this to my modified diet, since nothing
else has changed.

Welcome to ketosis. For the first two weeks of ketosis
the body cranks out extra that comes out through the
skin, in your urine, you name it. Then after those two
weeks are over the body settles in for the long haul
and starts to only produce enough ketones to match the
rate the cells burn those ketones.

Two weeks into ketosis, the smell goes down because
the overreaction goes down. It gets faint enough that
some can't even tell on their own breath anymore, and
the amount that spills in the urine gets much smaller.

According to you posting history you'be been low
carbing around 7 weeks. It looks to me like for most
of those 7 weeks you weren't low enough to get into
ketosis. On the average folks go into ketosis near 50
grams per day so either you were eating more than 50
or you aren't in the middle of the average range.

Looks to me like you''re doing great and you managed
to hit stuff from the first 2 weeks during your 7th
week.

Doug,

Thanks - but I'm not sure if I understand your response. I've noticed
this change in odour more or less from the word go (beginning of July),
it's just that it didn't occur to me to mention it here until recently.
So if this is a sign of ketosis, surely it's a sign that ketosis
kicked in several weeks ago. Or am I misunderstanding something?

Alan.

Does your boyfriend have a problem with the way you smell, or what?

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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Quoted message said:

Since starting on my low carb diet/journey/experiment/whatever you wish
to call it, I've noticed a slight change in my body odour.

A slightly cheesy, cabbagey smell. Sometimes present on my breath but
also in my sweat.

Is this common? It's not a hygiene issue at all, I'm 100% certain of
that. I can only attribute this to my modified diet, since nothing
else has changed.

Alan
(very embarrassed)

Alan said:

Thanks - but I'm not sure if I understand your response. I've noticed
this change in odour more or less from the word go (beginning of July),
it's just that it didn't occur to me to mention it here until recently.
So if this is a sign of ketosis, surely it's a sign that ketosis
kicked in several weeks ago. Or am I misunderstanding something?

You didn't mention being in ketosis in previous posts
and it's important to know when someone on Atkins is in
ketosis. Ketosis is a primary tool on Atkins. No
moention of it before means to me either you're on some
other plan or you weren't in ketosis.

Sure, it's definitely a sign that you've been in ketosis
for a bunch of weeks. The usual pattern is about two
weeks intense, followed by much more mild from then on,
with strong days for various reasons. Your experience
of increased activity plus a day over 200 graqms of
dietary fat would have definitely kicked up your level
of ketosis back to what it was at it's peak.

Is it a problem that your pattern didn't have as much
decrease as most folks so you can still notice it after
the initial two weeks and before your one-day special?
Not really. But think over whether you're being
sensative because it's an unexpected smell. Knowing
that smell equals ketosis and thus is to be desired,
does it now seem to you that it's mild not intense?
Mild would be good ;^). That is, has anyone other than
you noticed.

A good thing about the smell on your breath or skin.
It's far more accurate than those ketostix. If you can
tell that you have the smell no matter how faint, then
you are in ketosis and spilling extra ketones. Ketones
will dissolve through skin so they can't be hoarded
inside the body the way glucose can be, so the body
doesn't have mechanisms to attempt to hold it in.

Most folks the amount of ketones generated after the
first two weeks closely matches the amount their cells
burn. So only tiny amounts leak out in the breath and
urine and so little out of the skin most can't tell
that way. The question becomes whether you have extra
sensative smell or you are producing excess ketones.
Nothing needs to be done about extra sensative smell.

If you're producing excess ketones it is a sign that
user body is extremely happy to go into ketosis and
that leads to a fast loss rate (maybe as much as 2
pounds per week even with only 40 pounds to go).
While it's fabulous to lose ultra-fast, there's the
issue of "easy come, easy go" that suggests you would
be more inclined than average to regain as well as
lose. It's a caution against falling off the plan
and thus it's a caution to move steadily through the
phases of the plan sure you are as prepared as possible
for the maintenance phase. "When you fail to plan you
plan to fail" applies. Following all of the steps in
sequence equals planning for maintenance.

Still a funny guy I see.

Thanks - I guess the odour is reasonably mild and I wouldn't say it was
unpleasant, just different to what I know. To my knowledge it's not
something that anyone else has noticed.

Time will tell as far as the weight loss is concerned...

Who are you replying to?

Are you just another googlegroups idiot without a clue about Usenet
conventions?

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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Thanks - I guess the odour is reasonably mild and I wouldn't say it was
unpleasant, just different to what I know. To my knowledge it's not
something that anyone else has noticed.

Time will tell as far as the weight loss is concerned...